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RE: Old dominion decision makers
(09-22-2020 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 06:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 03:52 PM)Nukesquad Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 12:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 12:40 PM)monarx Wrote:  I mean, there seems to be universal consensus that Judy sucks. She has overseen the demise of television exposure, seen revenue evaporate, and seen CUSA drop like a rock in prestige. If the presidents recognize that, why don't they cut her loose? She works at their pleasure, right? We need a person that is an innovative thinker, a shrewd deal maker and a marketing genius in that position. Let someone else manage and execute the events.

Speaking of managing and executing events. WE PLAY OUR BASKETBALL CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT IN A FOOTBALL PRACTICE FACILITY, BOOPLEX STYLE, IN FRONT OF 200 FANS.

Correct. CUSA puts both men's & women's in 1 site for ONLY 2 reasons. The site is close to the conference HQ so it's convenient to the front office staff, and they don't want to spend money for 2 separate tournaments. I would prefer you schedule the WBB tourney like the CAA, in that it's at a conference school site. They you know you can at least draw the local fans then.
I'll go one farther and say they should put both men's and women's tournaments on campuses.

Generally, I'm not a fan of holding the men's tournament on someone's campus, but the lack of fan interest in this conference all but requires it if you want an atmosphere worthy of a D1 basketball conference tournament.

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Or at least in a city where a CUSA school is located. Charlotte or Nashville are really the only ones that make sense unless you rotate places

I don't even know if those locations would draw any fans. Norfolk and Birmingham would probably do better.

Here's a proposal. Rotate the tournament between all league members with the stipulation that you have to have been in the top 5 for attendance the previous season in order to host. That way you ensure that the tournament is at least in a city where there is some fan interest and create an incentive for lower attendance schools to work on improving.
09-23-2020 08:26 AM
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RE: Old dominion decision makers
(09-23-2020 08:26 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 06:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 03:52 PM)Nukesquad Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 12:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Speaking of managing and executing events. WE PLAY OUR BASKETBALL CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT IN A FOOTBALL PRACTICE FACILITY, BOOPLEX STYLE, IN FRONT OF 200 FANS.

Correct. CUSA puts both men's & women's in 1 site for ONLY 2 reasons. The site is close to the conference HQ so it's convenient to the front office staff, and they don't want to spend money for 2 separate tournaments. I would prefer you schedule the WBB tourney like the CAA, in that it's at a conference school site. They you know you can at least draw the local fans then.
I'll go one farther and say they should put both men's and women's tournaments on campuses.

Generally, I'm not a fan of holding the men's tournament on someone's campus, but the lack of fan interest in this conference all but requires it if you want an atmosphere worthy of a D1 basketball conference tournament.

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Or at least in a city where a CUSA school is located. Charlotte or Nashville are really the only ones that make sense unless you rotate places

I don't even know if those locations would draw any fans. Norfolk and Birmingham would probably do better.

Here's a proposal. Rotate the tournament between all league members with the stipulation that you have to have been in the top 5 for attendance the previous season in order to host. That way you ensure that the tournament is at least in a city where there is some fan interest and create an incentive for lower attendance schools to work on improving.

It’s been in Birmingham and it didn’t draw well. Charlotte and Atlanta would probably be the best two sites available, as both are easy to travel to.

The attendance stipulation is a bad idea, because it’s going to be the same 5 schools:
ODU
Marshall
UTEP
WKU
Charlotte

So if ODU is the overall number one seed and hosted in the last three years, they could end up going on the road to somewhere like UTEP, which is pretty trash

If campus sites were the way to go, I would look at allowing the highest seed to host the whole tourney.
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RE: Old dominion decision makers
(09-23-2020 08:26 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 06:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 03:52 PM)Nukesquad Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 12:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Speaking of managing and executing events. WE PLAY OUR BASKETBALL CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT IN A FOOTBALL PRACTICE FACILITY, BOOPLEX STYLE, IN FRONT OF 200 FANS.

Correct. CUSA puts both men's & women's in 1 site for ONLY 2 reasons. The site is close to the conference HQ so it's convenient to the front office staff, and they don't want to spend money for 2 separate tournaments. I would prefer you schedule the WBB tourney like the CAA, in that it's at a conference school site. They you know you can at least draw the local fans then.
I'll go one farther and say they should put both men's and women's tournaments on campuses.

Generally, I'm not a fan of holding the men's tournament on someone's campus, but the lack of fan interest in this conference all but requires it if you want an atmosphere worthy of a D1 basketball conference tournament.

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Or at least in a city where a CUSA school is located. Charlotte or Nashville are really the only ones that make sense unless you rotate places

I don't even know if those locations would draw any fans. Norfolk and Birmingham would probably do better.

Here's a proposal. Rotate the tournament between all league members with the stipulation that you have to have been in the top 5 for attendance the previous season in order to host. That way you ensure that the tournament is at least in a city where there is some fan interest and create an incentive for lower attendance schools to work on improving.

We used to have it in Birmingham and attendance sucked for everyone except UAB. They had several chances. I figure if its in Charlotte you have reasonable access for UNCC, ODU, WKU, MT, Marshall and UAB. Nashville is about as good for everyone except ODU, but better for So Miss and La Tech. Norfolk would be similar to Birmingham: Great as long as ODU is in it, Marshall and UNCC would draw a decent number of fans, and everyone else would have less than 100 and many less than 10. Imagine a FAU vs. UTSA final in Norfolk. Id wager less than 1000 in attendance.
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RE: Old dominion decision makers
(09-23-2020 08:54 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(09-23-2020 08:26 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 07:52 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 06:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(09-22-2020 03:52 PM)Nukesquad Wrote:  Correct. CUSA puts both men's & women's in 1 site for ONLY 2 reasons. The site is close to the conference HQ so it's convenient to the front office staff, and they don't want to spend money for 2 separate tournaments. I would prefer you schedule the WBB tourney like the CAA, in that it's at a conference school site. They you know you can at least draw the local fans then.
I'll go one farther and say they should put both men's and women's tournaments on campuses.

Generally, I'm not a fan of holding the men's tournament on someone's campus, but the lack of fan interest in this conference all but requires it if you want an atmosphere worthy of a D1 basketball conference tournament.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Or at least in a city where a CUSA school is located. Charlotte or Nashville are really the only ones that make sense unless you rotate places

I don't even know if those locations would draw any fans. Norfolk and Birmingham would probably do better.

Here's a proposal. Rotate the tournament between all league members with the stipulation that you have to have been in the top 5 for attendance the previous season in order to host. That way you ensure that the tournament is at least in a city where there is some fan interest and create an incentive for lower attendance schools to work on improving.

We used to have it in Birmingham and attendance sucked for everyone except UAB. They had several chances. I figure if its in Charlotte you have reasonable access for UNCC, ODU, WKU, MT, Marshall and UAB. Nashville is about as good for everyone except ODU, but better for So Miss and La Tech. Norfolk would be similar to Birmingham: Great as long as ODU is in it, Marshall and UNCC would draw a decent number of fans, and everyone else would have less than 100 and many less than 10. Imagine a FAU vs. UTSA final in Norfolk. Id wager less than 1000 in attendance.

Nashville could prove interesting for a venue site. The football game at Vandy proved to be a mini vacation for the family. We still talk about Halloween night at the White Horse Saloon.
09-23-2020 09:11 AM
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Hopefully come tournament time things will be back to normal regarding attendance caps and social distancing. But if not CUSA will be in great shape, they’ve been practicing for years.
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