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Chinese Virologist: Claims China Designed and Released the Virus
6 minute interview on Tucker Carlson within the past hour. He was even surprised by some of the accusations the doctor was making. I haven’t looked into her credibility (Although her credentials towards the end seem about as good as it gets), evidence, or reports but it’s what many on here believed in the beginning. How true? Who knows?

Her twitter account was apparently suspended minutes before or after the interview aired.

https://youtu.be/qFlqXPl_hZQ
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Well hell.
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Anyone who studied this with any honesty has known that it is a bio engineered virus. It has components of HIV and SARS. This has been common knowledge among the alternative media for months now. Nice to see the main stream catching up.
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(09-15-2020 08:47 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Anyone who studied this with any honesty has known that it is a bio engineered virus. It has components of HIV and SARS. This has been common knowledge among the alternative media for months now. Nice to see the main stream catching up.

Well that PROVES it. Nevermind the scientists who say there's no way it could be engineered, as long as you can find a few who say it was manufactured, I guess....

Quote:The genetic makeup or "genome" of SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced and publicly shared thousands of times by scientists all over the world. If the virus had been genetically engineered in a lab there would be signs of manipulation in the genome data.

This would include evidence of an existing viral sequence as the backbone for the new virus, and obvious, targeted inserted (or deleted) genetic elements.

But no such evidence exists. It is very unlikely that any techniques used to genetically engineer the virus would not leave a genetic signature, like specific identifiable pieces of DNA code.

The genome of SARS-CoV-2 is similar to that of other bat coronaviruses, as well as those of pangolins, all of which have a similar overall genomic architecture. Differences between the genomes of these coronaviruses show natural patterns typical of coronavirus evolution. This suggests that SARS-CoV-2 evolved from a previous wild coronavirus.

One of the key features that makes SARS-CoV-2 different from the other coronaviruses is a particular "spike" protein that binds well with another protein on the outside of human cells called ACE2. This enables the virus to hook into and infect a variety of human cells.

However, other related coronaviruses do have similar features, providing evidence that they have evolved naturally rather than being artificially added in a lab.
Here's How Scientists Know Coronavirus Wasn't Made in a Lab

Quote:"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.

"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse. No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."
Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab
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Commie Tom even making excuses for Communists China now.

That is EXACTLY what that lab was working on Tom, modifying Coronavirues and creating new forms of it. Its no secret, and no one is denying that is what there work was. They were creating "superviruses".

https://nypost.com/2020/04/16/all-we-kno...-covid-19/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11340023/w...-outbreak/

https://nypost.com/2020/05/24/wuhan-lab-...ronavirus/


We will never know the full story and they will never admit to Covid, but the entire purpose of that lab was creating and modifying viruses to create stronger super viruses.
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(09-16-2020 06:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-15-2020 08:47 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Anyone who studied this with any honesty has known that it is a bio engineered virus. It has components of HIV and SARS. This has been common knowledge among the alternative media for months now. Nice to see the main stream catching up.

Well that PROVES it. Nevermind the scientists who say there's no way it could be engineered, as long as you can find a few who say it was manufactured, I guess....

Quote:The genetic makeup or "genome" of SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced and publicly shared thousands of times by scientists all over the world. If the virus had been genetically engineered in a lab there would be signs of manipulation in the genome data.

This would include evidence of an existing viral sequence as the backbone for the new virus, and obvious, targeted inserted (or deleted) genetic elements.

But no such evidence exists. It is very unlikely that any techniques used to genetically engineer the virus would not leave a genetic signature, like specific identifiable pieces of DNA code.

The genome of SARS-CoV-2 is similar to that of other bat coronaviruses, as well as those of pangolins, all of which have a similar overall genomic architecture. Differences between the genomes of these coronaviruses show natural patterns typical of coronavirus evolution. This suggests that SARS-CoV-2 evolved from a previous wild coronavirus.

One of the key features that makes SARS-CoV-2 different from the other coronaviruses is a particular "spike" protein that binds well with another protein on the outside of human cells called ACE2. This enables the virus to hook into and infect a variety of human cells.

However, other related coronaviruses do have similar features, providing evidence that they have evolved naturally rather than being artificially added in a lab.
Here's How Scientists Know Coronavirus Wasn't Made in a Lab

Quote:"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.

"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse. No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."
Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

Dear Village Idiot,

We KNOW that this virus came out of that lab. We also know that the moment it came out of the lab, it was infecting people, something that the natural bat coronaviruses of that string had yet been able to do. Therefore, the evidence points to the fact that this lab modified a natural coronavirus, and your pooh bear propaganda is flat out wrong. And thats what this scientist was saying, that the lab took a natural bat coronovirus and modified it.
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(09-16-2020 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 06:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-15-2020 08:47 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Anyone who studied this with any honesty has known that it is a bio engineered virus. It has components of HIV and SARS. This has been common knowledge among the alternative media for months now. Nice to see the main stream catching up.

Well that PROVES it. Nevermind the scientists who say there's no way it could be engineered, as long as you can find a few who say it was manufactured, I guess....

Quote:The genetic makeup or "genome" of SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced and publicly shared thousands of times by scientists all over the world. If the virus had been genetically engineered in a lab there would be signs of manipulation in the genome data.

This would include evidence of an existing viral sequence as the backbone for the new virus, and obvious, targeted inserted (or deleted) genetic elements.

But no such evidence exists. It is very unlikely that any techniques used to genetically engineer the virus would not leave a genetic signature, like specific identifiable pieces of DNA code.

The genome of SARS-CoV-2 is similar to that of other bat coronaviruses, as well as those of pangolins, all of which have a similar overall genomic architecture. Differences between the genomes of these coronaviruses show natural patterns typical of coronavirus evolution. This suggests that SARS-CoV-2 evolved from a previous wild coronavirus.

One of the key features that makes SARS-CoV-2 different from the other coronaviruses is a particular "spike" protein that binds well with another protein on the outside of human cells called ACE2. This enables the virus to hook into and infect a variety of human cells.

However, other related coronaviruses do have similar features, providing evidence that they have evolved naturally rather than being artificially added in a lab.
Here's How Scientists Know Coronavirus Wasn't Made in a Lab

Quote:"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.

"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse. No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."
Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

Dear Village Idiot,

We KNOW that this virus came out of that lab. We also know that the moment it came out of the lab, it was infecting people, something that the natural bat coronaviruses of that string had yet been able to do. Therefore, the evidence points to the fact that this lab modified a natural coronavirus, and your pooh bear propaganda is flat out wrong. And thats what this scientist was saying, that the lab took a natural bat coronovirus and modified it.

Dear board troll,

There is no consensus that this came from a lab nor that it was man-made. You can poo poo other scientific opinions and facts and stomp your little feet all you want, it still won't make your opinion factual.

Quote:Researchers led by Shan-Lu Liu at the Ohio State University say there is “no credible evidence” of genetic engineering (Emerging Microbes & Infections, doi.org/dpvw). The virus’s genome has been sequenced, and if it had been altered, we would expect to see signs of inserted gene sequences. But we now know the points that differ from bat viruses are scattered in a fairly random way, just as they would be if the new virus had evolved naturally.

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/term/corona...z6YDCdxcUU
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(09-16-2020 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 08:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 06:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-15-2020 08:47 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Anyone who studied this with any honesty has known that it is a bio engineered virus. It has components of HIV and SARS. This has been common knowledge among the alternative media for months now. Nice to see the main stream catching up.

Well that PROVES it. Nevermind the scientists who say there's no way it could be engineered, as long as you can find a few who say it was manufactured, I guess....

Quote:The genetic makeup or "genome" of SARS-CoV-2 has been sequenced and publicly shared thousands of times by scientists all over the world. If the virus had been genetically engineered in a lab there would be signs of manipulation in the genome data.

This would include evidence of an existing viral sequence as the backbone for the new virus, and obvious, targeted inserted (or deleted) genetic elements.

But no such evidence exists. It is very unlikely that any techniques used to genetically engineer the virus would not leave a genetic signature, like specific identifiable pieces of DNA code.

The genome of SARS-CoV-2 is similar to that of other bat coronaviruses, as well as those of pangolins, all of which have a similar overall genomic architecture. Differences between the genomes of these coronaviruses show natural patterns typical of coronavirus evolution. This suggests that SARS-CoV-2 evolved from a previous wild coronavirus.

One of the key features that makes SARS-CoV-2 different from the other coronaviruses is a particular "spike" protein that binds well with another protein on the outside of human cells called ACE2. This enables the virus to hook into and infect a variety of human cells.

However, other related coronaviruses do have similar features, providing evidence that they have evolved naturally rather than being artificially added in a lab.
Here's How Scientists Know Coronavirus Wasn't Made in a Lab

Quote:"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.

"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse. No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."
Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

Dear Village Idiot,

We KNOW that this virus came out of that lab. We also know that the moment it came out of the lab, it was infecting people, something that the natural bat coronaviruses of that string had yet been able to do. Therefore, the evidence points to the fact that this lab modified a natural coronavirus, and your pooh bear propaganda is flat out wrong. And thats what this scientist was saying, that the lab took a natural bat coronovirus and modified it.

Dear board troll,

There is no consensus that this came from a lab nor that it was man-made. You can poo poo other scientific opinions and facts and stomp your little feet all you want, it still won't make your opinion factual.

Quote:Researchers led by Shan-Lu Liu at the Ohio State University say there is “no credible evidence” of genetic engineering (Emerging Microbes & Infections, doi.org/dpvw). The virus’s genome has been sequenced, and if it had been altered, we would expect to see signs of inserted gene sequences. But we now know the points that differ from bat viruses are scattered in a fairly random way, just as they would be if the new virus had evolved naturally.

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/term/corona...z6YDCdxcUU

What this veteranarian numbnut (who went to school in China, by the way) is saying is that "welp, we see random insertions of gene sequences, but since we believe that happens naturally as well, that doesnt mean it was modified.

Once again, for the village idiot, the naturally occurring cornoavirus this was derived from was not able to be transmitted to and from humans. But the one that escaped from the lab was immediately able to do so.
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If you know anything about the study of diseases, you know that labs that engage in this quite often force or encourage existing viruses to mutate in order to learn how they do so and thus to predict how such things might happen in nature. 'What if a rabid dog eats a bird with avian flu?'... well, you start with rabies, add avian flu and inject them into a dog and see what happens (I'm being intentionally silly, but its not that far from true)

SO all sorts of things are possible and scientifically demonstrable...
The virus was created and released
The virus was created and escaped
PART of the virus was created, and it escaped or was released and mutated naturally (It could have been totally benign before mutating)
Art closely imitated life

Perhaps thousands of such variables.

I mostly believe it was some version of creation... because that's what they do there... Sort of like the old joke about putting a vet clinic next to a chinese restaurant.

As to its purpose and release? I don't know... and I want the people who can find out to care and find out... but that's not me. I say this because it's happening today all across the world. You don't have to be a University or Government Lab to do it. It's being done in caves and garages as we speak.
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Doesn't matter, not like we will do anything about it.
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(09-16-2020 10:26 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  If you know anything about the study of diseases, you know that labs that engage in this quite often force or encourage existing viruses to mutate in order to learn how they do so and thus to predict how such things might happen in nature. 'What if a rabid dog eats a bird with avian flu?'... well, you start with rabies, add avian flu and inject them into a dog and see what happens (I'm being intentionally silly, but its not that far from true)

SO all sorts of things are possible and scientifically demonstrable...
The virus was created and released
The virus was created and escaped
PART of the virus was created, and it escaped or was released and mutated naturally (It could have been totally benign before mutating)
Art closely imitated life

Perhaps thousands of such variables.

I mostly believe it was some version of creation... because that's what they do there... Sort of like the old joke about putting a vet clinic next to a chinese restaurant.

As to its purpose and release? I don't know... and I want the people who can find out to care and find out... but that's not me. I say this because it's happening today all across the world. You don't have to be a University or Government Lab to do it. It's being done in caves and garages as we speak.

that may be your best macro posit to date....the summation is the real fear.....

we both know (along with many others), this was merely a test drive....that genome discovery works <>
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Quote:Twitter has suspended the account of a Chinese academic who suggested COVID-19 was made in a lab and intentionally released.

The social media profile of Dr. Li-Meng Yan, with just under 60,000 followers, went dark this week as the scientist claimed to have scientific evidence the Chinese government was involved in manufacturing the highly-infectious novel coronavirus.

A pre-print report pushed online this week by Dr. Yan and three colleagues contained a series of unsubstantiated claims about the origins of the global pandemic.

Dr. Yan and her colleagues appear affiliated with the Rule of Law Society, a group founded by Steve Bannon, the former advisor to President Donald Trump.

On Tucker Carlson Tonight Tuesday, where Dr. Yan was labeled as a "whistleblower," she claimed that COVID-19 is a "man-made virus" and "not from nature," echoing comments previously made by President Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

Dr. Yan said the virus was manufactured by China. "I have evidence to show why they can do it, what they have done, how [they did it]," she told the Fox host.

"The scientific world also keeps silent... works together with the Chinese Communist Party, they don't want people to know his truth. That's why I get suspended, I get suppressed, I am the target that Chinese Communist Party wants disappeared."

Twitter declined to comment on the individual case.

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I could tell by the tone of the article that it was some leftist rag reporting this.

Yup. Newsweak. I can't believe that they are still around.
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Twitter has since suspended her account.

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So we know that China controls twitter now.

I can't understand why any American would allow them to continue under section 230.
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10....20.1733440

Here are two Chinese and a westerner doing a paper showing why the virus can't be manmade. But its kind of like listening to Democrats. No credible evidence that Biden bribed Ukraine. No credible evidence that Obama's FBI spied on Trump,...

This article actually makes me more likely to believe it is manmade. Their assumption that since it doesn't match a natural virus, it can't be manmade is done with a straight face. They admit the lab modified viruses and that Covid 19 appears to be a mix of bat, pangolin and HIV viruses.
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(09-16-2020 08:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10....20.1733440

Here are two Chinese and a westerner doing a paper showing why the virus can't be manmade. But its kind of like listening to Democrats. No credible evidence that Biden bribed Ukraine. No credible evidence that Obama's FBI spied on Trump,...

This article actually makes me more likely to believe it is manmade. Their assumption that since it doesn't match a natural virus, it can't be manmade is done with a straight face. They admit the lab modified viruses and that Covid 19 appears to be a mix of bat, pangolin and HIV viruses.

Maybe so, but we need to at least admit that we simply don't know yet...and we will likely never know to any degree of certainty.

Taking an apparent Steve Bannon acolyte at face value is problematic.
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(Yesterday 06:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Taking an apparent Steve Bannon acolyte at face value is problematic.

But you will blindly and eagerly lap up anything from any source that is negative toward Trump and post it here. You continue to be a hypocrite of the highest degree.
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(Yesterday 06:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Taking an apparent Steve Bannon acolyte at face value is problematic.

But you will blindly and eagerly lap up anything from any source that is negative toward Trump and post it here. You continue to be a hypocrite of the highest degree.

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