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(10-13-2023 07:30 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  
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(10-12-2023 10:21 AM)MonarchsWon Wrote:  This is fantastic news. Runte did this back in the day. They raised standards for acceptance and admissions soared. Then Broderick came in and lowered to the - "we take all" approach and things declined rapidly. Glad to see we were moving back in the right direction. It's a shame we wasted 20 years of positive growth.

Dr. Koch, and Dr. Runte definitely seemed to prioritize academics and student experience more than Broderick (though he should get most of the credit for the EVMS merger). Jury is still out on Dr. Hemphill, but so far so good for the most part.

Why should Broderick get any credit for EVMS?

My sources tell me he worked tirelessly to make it happen once Sentara forced EVMS to have to consider their options. Broderick may have been dull, uninspired and a bit too quick to accept BS from the state government, but without a lot of that sucking up in Richmond, this may have easily been derailed or never gotten legs to begin with. I hear he desperately wanted it finished before his Presidency was over, but while it was basically done, the politics of finalizing it moved too slow. This is his biggest legacy at ODU. Hemphill’s hiring and background was the finishing touch and he got to sign the paperwork, but it was 95% done by the time he arrived. At least that’s how I hear it.
10-13-2023 09:36 PM
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(10-13-2023 09:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-13-2023 07:30 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  
(10-12-2023 10:29 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-12-2023 10:21 AM)MonarchsWon Wrote:  This is fantastic news. Runte did this back in the day. They raised standards for acceptance and admissions soared. Then Broderick came in and lowered to the - "we take all" approach and things declined rapidly. Glad to see we were moving back in the right direction. It's a shame we wasted 20 years of positive growth.

Dr. Koch, and Dr. Runte definitely seemed to prioritize academics and student experience more than Broderick (though he should get most of the credit for the EVMS merger). Jury is still out on Dr. Hemphill, but so far so good for the most part.

Why should Broderick get any credit for EVMS?

My sources tell me he worked tirelessly to make it happen once Sentara forced EVMS to have to consider their options. Broderick may have been dull, uninspired and a bit too quick to accept BS from the state government, but without a lot of that sucking up in Richmond, this may have easily been derailed or never gotten legs to begin with. I hear he desperately wanted it finished before his Presidency was over, but while it was basically done, the politics of finalizing it moved too slow. This is his biggest legacy at ODU. Hemphill’s hiring and background was the finishing touch and he got to sign the paperwork, but it was 95% done by the time he arrived. At least that’s how I hear it.

I think your sources are giving him way too much credit. He had a hand and deserves some credit but Sentara wanting it to happen is where the majority of the credit lies. They had the power to make it happen and they flexed it. It also ignores how much work was left once Hemphill arrived to make this a reality.
10-14-2023 05:25 AM
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I don’t claim to have “sources” but my understanding is Sentara has been contributing upwards of $60 million annually in support of the EVMS budget. So Sentara, and understandably so, publicly stated EVMS needed a sustainable funding source. Which to me signaled Sentara saying we ain’t doing this forever.

So the solution proposed was to merge ODU and EVMS thereby opening the door to sustainable funding via the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Still, there were some political hurdles that had to be cleared. We brought Hemphill on board as he had experience in this type of thing at Radford. Add to that leaderships changes at both EVMS and most importantly the governors mansion, and “boom” here we are today.

Lots of people to credit and not just here at ODU.

IMO, good solution that addresses many issues and most importantly will likely serve to improve the healthcare for many Virginians.


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(10-13-2023 08:00 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  
(10-13-2023 07:43 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(10-13-2023 07:30 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  
(10-12-2023 10:29 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-12-2023 10:21 AM)MonarchsWon Wrote:  This is fantastic news. Runte did this back in the day. They raised standards for acceptance and admissions soared. Then Broderick came in and lowered to the - "we take all" approach and things declined rapidly. Glad to see we were moving back in the right direction. It's a shame we wasted 20 years of positive growth.

Dr. Koch, and Dr. Runte definitely seemed to prioritize academics and student experience more than Broderick (though he should get most of the credit for the EVMS merger). Jury is still out on Dr. Hemphill, but so far so good for the most part.

Why should Broderick get any credit for EVMS?

Is there credit that should be given anywhere? What’s the latest? Apologies if I missed it elsewhere. Exciting stuff.

It becomes official on Jan. 1, 2024.
https://www.odu.edu/article/state-suppor...ve-forward

Looking more like the end of the 2023-2024 academic year.
10-14-2023 01:12 PM
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What’s the pulse on the future of fundraising?

I am still understanding this to be a merger with ODU as the parent entity and EVMS leadership on our board. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think of this new arrangement as a joint venture where where leadership of both schools have an equal stake in ownership.

Does EVMS now get a cut of all donations made to ODU like any other department? Does ODU skim off donations made directly to EVMS? Surely it would make sense to combine somehow for scale. I’m thinking getting a share of high earning MDs donating to their alma mater could bump ODU’s fundraising majorly.
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(10-15-2023 12:33 AM)ODU2017 Wrote:  What’s the pulse on the future of fundraising?

I am still understanding this to be a merger with ODU as the parent entity and EVMS leadership on our board. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think of this new arrangement as a joint venture where where leadership of both schools have an equal stake in ownership.

Does EVMS now get a cut of all donations made to ODU like any other department? Does ODU skim off donations made directly to EVMS? Surely it would make sense to combine somehow for scale. I’m thinking getting a share of high earning MDs donating to their alma mater could bump ODU’s fundraising majorly.

Most meaningful fundraising can be directed, just like your ODAF can be given to one sport.
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(10-15-2023 08:55 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-15-2023 12:33 AM)ODU2017 Wrote:  What’s the pulse on the future of fundraising?

I am still understanding this to be a merger with ODU as the parent entity and EVMS leadership on our board. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think of this new arrangement as a joint venture where where leadership of both schools have an equal stake in ownership.

Does EVMS now get a cut of all donations made to ODU like any other department? Does ODU skim off donations made directly to EVMS? Surely it would make sense to combine somehow for scale. I’m thinking getting a share of high earning MDs donating to their alma mater could bump ODU’s fundraising majorly.

Most meaningful fundraising can be directed, just like your ODAF can be given to one sport.

And non-directed? Will there be any sharing at all?
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(10-15-2023 04:47 PM)ODU2017 Wrote:  
(10-15-2023 08:55 AM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-15-2023 12:33 AM)ODU2017 Wrote:  What’s the pulse on the future of fundraising?

I am still understanding this to be a merger with ODU as the parent entity and EVMS leadership on our board. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think of this new arrangement as a joint venture where where leadership of both schools have an equal stake in ownership.

Does EVMS now get a cut of all donations made to ODU like any other department? Does ODU skim off donations made directly to EVMS? Surely it would make sense to combine somehow for scale. I’m thinking getting a share of high earning MDs donating to their alma mater could bump ODU’s fundraising majorly.

Most meaningful fundraising can be directed, just like your ODAF can be given to one sport.

And non-directed? Will there be any sharing at all?

General fund donations go where it is most needed at the time of the donation. So yes, it just depends on timing and need.
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(10-14-2023 01:12 PM)Nukesquad Wrote:  
(10-13-2023 08:00 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  
(10-13-2023 07:43 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  
(10-13-2023 07:30 PM)Monarchist13 Wrote:  
(10-12-2023 10:29 AM)monarx Wrote:  Dr. Koch, and Dr. Runte definitely seemed to prioritize academics and student experience more than Broderick (though he should get most of the credit for the EVMS merger). Jury is still out on Dr. Hemphill, but so far so good for the most part.

Why should Broderick get any credit for EVMS?

Is there credit that should be given anywhere? What’s the latest? Apologies if I missed it elsewhere. Exciting stuff.

It becomes official on Jan. 1, 2024.
https://www.odu.edu/article/state-suppor...ve-forward

Looking more like the end of the 2023-2024 academic year.

Yesterday, I talked to an EVMS employee who said the same thing. Jan 1st is way too early per the source.
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It’s been pushed back to July 1st.
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