Just like their Father Satan, they use Scripture out of context , to justify their errant conclusions and reasonings. What is in their Evil heart, comes out through their mouths as they constantly talk on this site. Don't take my word, just read their Evil conclusions .

Oh good grief man, NO ONE suggested fires pick and choose who and what to burn based on skin color or if its a church or not. Churches absolutely get destroyed in these disasters, and no one suggested they do not. As I said, its rains on the just and unjust.

If you are going to respond to something I said at least be honest about what I said.

I don't feel the need to keep responding to the issue of God chastising those whom He loves, I already backed up that fact with many different verses of scripture. I could have posted many more but I think the point is clearly made already.

Nor do I feel the need to argue with a Jehovahs Witness about any of this. I could post 10,000 verses saying this same thing, you will just reject them all, claim they all mean the total opposite of what they actually say and call me the devil.

I'll just let those scriptures speak for themselves and we will have to agree to disagree.

(09-13-2020 11:25 AM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  You keeping falling back to original sin, but this is not what your original post implied. Sure, you can literally say anything that ever happens or will happen is simply because of Adam and Eve being cast out of the Garden of Eden because of their original sin. I can see that as an argument (though kind of a weak one in my view), but you made a point to speak of these fires happening specifically because of the "godless west coast progressive".

That's not just you speaking back to original sin. That's you seeing what you want to see in a natural disaster. Blaming who you want to blame. You're saying this is God judging the "godless west coast progressive", not just a result of God's general judgement on man. You're telling me you believe it is likely due to specific sinners.

Of course I can "fallback on it". That is what the Bible teaches word for word that death and suffering entered the world through the fall of man.

You are going to have a hard time convincing any Bible believing Christian that that is not the case.

I gave you an OPINION that some of the west cost disasters are a specific judgment, but you are free to disagree if you like. Believe whatever you want to believe about them, that is your choice. They may or may not be, but we do know the Bible teaches that God does do that in some situations and we know He is going to pour out His wrath in the last days and do a lot of it.

I'm not getting into this interpretation cop out because its just a lame excuse to deny what the text of the Bible states over and over and over again. Death and suffering entered the world, through the fall of man. That is not an "interpretation", its just what the Bible plainly states and teaches. You are just making lame excuses and don't even really know what the Bible says about any of this. As I said, you are out of your depth here and just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Note this fact also. These Preachers are not above going back to Change their Original Stupid reasonings about the True God. No. You can expect them to change what they have said if not word , in explanation. Jesus stated, the Evil thoughts of the heart come out through ones mouth. It is inevitable that this happens to Evil people. 2 Tim. 3:1-5 describes such Evil ones. There the Scripture admonishes all to turn away from ones who display such Evil qualities. Note that this is especially True of those that Claim to know God and his ways. While these claim a Love for God and his Son Jesus, they teach Evil things about the Loving God of the Bible,

So according to the Evil reasoning of these Preachers,
1. The True God Labels the West Coast as Progressive , and therfore deserves punishment more than any other part of the world.
2. God is disciplining the West coast with Fire cause he loves them.
3. The West Coast is well aware of what causes their plight , since God has forewarned them that the fire was coming.

This is what these Preachers lay out as Truth since they are not familiar with God's nature or dealings with humans past and present. These Preachers look over the details of how God has dealt and will deal with the Evil ones as well as those he loves. Again , the conclusions presented by these Evil ones shows the leanings of an Evil Heart. Jesus warns against such ones. There is yet time to change such a disposition, to stop lying about the True God and publish accurate teachings in imitation of the Christ.

None of those things are what I actually said, you are obviously twisting my words in a very dishonest manner.

What traps these Preachers is their Own Mouths. The very ideas that they present. Just watch as they move among those that accept what they say. This is where they are at ease. This is when their Real disposition is Revealed. The disposition presented is contrary to that which a follower of Jesus must display. The Preachers are exactly like the Secular men they identify with. Even taking on the Ideology of the Secular Man. Viewing as most import the same things the Secular man does. No matter how many Translations ,Versions, Languages of the Scriptures these have read, they fail to understand and correctly apply what they read. This statement is in harmony with the Words of Jesus at Matt. 15:8. No wonder they so easily attribute Evil things to the True God.

Quote:SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Hundreds of firefighters battled two large wildfires Friday that threatened to merge near the most populated part of Oregon, including the suburbs of Portland, and the governor said dozens of people are missing in other parts of the state.

The state’s emergency management director, Andrew Phelps, said officials are “preparing for a mass fatality event” and that thousands of structures have been destroyed.

Gov. Kate Brown said more than 40,000 Oregonians have been evacuated and about 500,000 are in different levels of evacuation zones, either having been told to leave or to prepare to do so. She was dialing back on a statement late Thursday issued by the state Office of Emergency Management that said a half-million people had been ordered to evacuate statewide.

Dozens of people are missing in Jackson County in the south and Marion County, where a fire continues to burn east of Salem, Brown told a news conference Friday. Also Friday, authorities announced that a man had been arrested on two counts of arson for allegedly starting a fire in southern Oregon on Tuesday.

The Oregon Convention Center in Portland was among the buildings being transformed into shelters for evacuees. Portland, shrouded in smoke from the fires, on Friday had the worst air quality of the world’s major cities, according to IQAir.

National Guard troops and corrections officers transferred about 1,300 inmates from a women’s prison in a southern suburb of Portland “out of an abundance of caution,” the Oregon Department of Corrections said. Spokeswoman Vanessa Vanderzee said it took 20 hours to transfer the inmates Thursday to another prison in a safe zone.

A change in the weather, with winds dropping and shifting direction and humidity rising, greatly helped firefighters struggling to prevent the two fires from advancing farther west into more-populated areas.

“The wind laid down quite a bit for us yesterday. There also wasn’t that strong eastern wind that was pushing the fire more to the west,” said Stefan Myers of the state’s fire information team.

Winds coming from the Pacific Ocean also neutralized the fires’ advance and even pushed them back, Myers said.

Almost 500 personnel were working on the fires, which were just a few miles (kilometers) apart, with rugged terrain between them that limits boots-on-the-ground efforts to keep them apart, Myers said. If they merge, they could generate such heat that it causes embers to fly thousands of feet into the air, potentially igniting other areas, Myers said.

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(09-13-2020 02:36 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Hundreds of firefighters battled two large wildfires Friday that threatened to merge near the most populated part of Oregon, including the suburbs of Portland, and the governor said dozens of people are missing in other parts of the state.

The state’s emergency management director, Andrew Phelps, said officials are “preparing for a mass fatality event” and that thousands of structures have been destroyed.

Gov. Kate Brown said more than 40,000 Oregonians have been evacuated and about 500,000 are in different levels of evacuation zones, either having been told to leave or to prepare to do so. She was dialing back on a statement late Thursday issued by the state Office of Emergency Management that said a half-million people had been ordered to evacuate statewide.

Dozens of people are missing in Jackson County in the south and Marion County, where a fire continues to burn east of Salem, Brown told a news conference Friday. Also Friday, authorities announced that a man had been arrested on two counts of arson for allegedly starting a fire in southern Oregon on Tuesday.

The Oregon Convention Center in Portland was among the buildings being transformed into shelters for evacuees. Portland, shrouded in smoke from the fires, on Friday had the worst air quality of the world’s major cities, according to IQAir.

National Guard troops and corrections officers transferred about 1,300 inmates from a women’s prison in a southern suburb of Portland “out of an abundance of caution,” the Oregon Department of Corrections said. Spokeswoman Vanessa Vanderzee said it took 20 hours to transfer the inmates Thursday to another prison in a safe zone.

A change in the weather, with winds dropping and shifting direction and humidity rising, greatly helped firefighters struggling to prevent the two fires from advancing farther west into more-populated areas.

“The wind laid down quite a bit for us yesterday. There also wasn’t that strong eastern wind that was pushing the fire more to the west,” said Stefan Myers of the state’s fire information team.

Winds coming from the Pacific Ocean also neutralized the fires’ advance and even pushed them back, Myers said.

Almost 500 personnel were working on the fires, which were just a few miles (kilometers) apart, with rugged terrain between them that limits boots-on-the-ground efforts to keep them apart, Myers said. If they merge, they could generate such heat that it causes embers to fly thousands of feet into the air, potentially igniting other areas, Myers said.

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The pics coming out of those regions are flat scary. Just fire red and orange skies in all directions.

Amazing how some of those anarchist are just intent on destroying everything in their states.......cities, trees, forests and all.

(09-12-2020 01:03 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 12:11 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 03:54 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-12-2020 12:45 AM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  
or click here for image fires

Wildfires are not doing anything in Mexico, either.

Mother Nature hates the U.S. maybe?

No such thing as "mother nature".

There is a God in heaven though. And he does pass judgment and His judgements are righteous and true.

I have felt for a while He has allowed the ignorance of the Godless west coast progressives to set up their own destruction by their own polices and hands. Their foolish forest polices (among other things) have made that region essentially a pile of dry timbers just waiting for a match.

At the same time he holds back the rain from those areas, as we all know they have had record droughts throughout that region the last 10+ years.

This is the most progressive region of America and look at how their polices have destroyed their environment, destroyed their ability to keep the lights on and destroyed their governments and cities, and caused a mass exodus.

And yet those lunatics look at everyone else and sky scream that its our faults. They are insane.

Sodom and Gomorrah.

Is that what Hurricane Katrina was too?
The 2011 Tuscaloosa, Alabama tornadoes?
Hurricane Harvey in 2017?
Hurricane Michael in Florida?
The Mississippi Valley flooding last year?

Natural disasters are natural disasters.

'Cept when they aren't:

(09-12-2020 10:08 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  The correct answer is that what is shown is a map of United States wildfires, which naturally wouldn't have fires in Canada or Mexico listed.

Here is Canada's wildfire map:

https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/interactiv...=2020#iMap


Mexico, being a failed third world state, doesn't have an active wildfire map online.

the raw sewage puts out the wildfire in mexico

Suck it tree huggers. You are reaping what you sowed. I hate it for those having to lose their homes because of you.

(09-13-2020 07:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Yeah, these progressive western states brought a lot of this upon themselves with their "voodoo science" based forest management practices, including bans on proven fire hazard mitigation programs like regular timber harvests, pre-cut fire breaks, and prescribed burns. The enviroweenies out west have even fought against the eradication of Eucalyptus groves despite the fact that they are an unnatural species and are essentially living gasoline in a forest fire.

Police and FBI investigate power poles cut with chainsaw in Snohomish County

Quote:LYNNWOOD, Wash. — Several power poles in Snohomish County have been vandalized with a chainsaw. Now local authorities and the FBI are searching for a suspect and motive.

It started in the middle of the night last Wednesday with a power outage reported near Maple Road and Butternut Road, just outside Lynnwood city limits.


Snohomish County PUD crews quickly discovered it was no run-of-the-mill call.

"It appeared as though the power pole that had fallen had been cut," said PUD spokesman Cayle Thompson. "That was a first for us. That's not something we see very often. That's not something we see at all."

Someone had cut through the pole with a chainsaw, leaving it dangling from high voltage wires overhead, near a substation and in the middle of a neighborhood.

Lynnwood Police Commander Sean Doty said that case is especially unsettling considering the lines carry more than 12,000 volts. They are so powerful, you wouldn't even have to touch them to get electrocuted.

"That could've been a fatal situation for whoever was standing nearby," said Doty. "Just due to the proximity to the substation that's there and the current they're carrying. Very dangerous."

As if that weren't enough, it appears the same person tried to cut down four more poles between the popular Interurban Trail and I-5 near the Alderwood Mall.

Governor asks people to use caution to prevent fires

Quote:It appears that all of the 58 fires that started on Monday in Washington state were caused by humans in some way, state Commissioner of Public Lands Hilary Franz says.

wonder if any of these fires were started by criminals let out of jail early due to Covid.

(09-15-2020 09:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  wonder if any of these fires were started by criminals let out of jail early due to Covid.

If there were arsonists set free, I suppose it’s possible.