(09-14-2020 12:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, no party bus, no 20+ positive cases, just a mom who felt sick when she went home, and a precaution of testing and isolation. And everybody tests negative.

Silverfield says we have every intention of playing our next game vs. UTSA.

So Memphis was just scared to play Houston?

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(09-14-2020 12:30 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, no party bus, no 20+ positive cases, just a mom who felt sick when she went home, and a precaution of testing and isolation. And everybody tests negative.

Silverfield says we have every intention of playing our next game vs. UTSA.

So Memphis was just scared to play Houston?

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Of course not. We were favored. They simply took precautions. Houston will get their chance later.

(09-14-2020 01:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:30 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, no party bus, no 20+ positive cases, just a mom who felt sick when she went home, and a precaution of testing and isolation. And everybody tests negative.

Silverfield says we have every intention of playing our next game vs. UTSA.

So Memphis was just scared to play Houston?

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Of course not. We were favored. They simply took precautions. Houston will get their chance later.

So this whole thing was fake news? Gee, I've always held the media to such high standards. They're normally incredibly honest.

Signed: Memphis Yankee (living in another body).

Leaked video from inside the party bus in 3...2...1...

(09-14-2020 12:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, the official word of what happened is, a mom came to visit her son in a van, spent time with him and other players in a dorm.

The mom left the next day and wasn't feeling well. All those she came in contact with were put into isolation, and tested.

Mom tested negative, and all players tested negative, but they remain apart from everyone else, as a precaution.

That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

(09-14-2020 02:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, the official word of what happened is, a mom came to visit her son in a van, spent time with him and other players in a dorm.

The mom left the next day and wasn't feeling well. All those she came in contact with were put into isolation, and tested.

Mom tested negative, and all players tested negative, but they remain apart from everyone else, as a precaution.

That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

Yep. If everybody tests negative, what's the dang issue? She could have had allergies, lol.

Not to mention, every freaking thing the media reported was wrong...

(09-14-2020 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, the official word of what happened is, a mom came to visit her son in a van, spent time with him and other players in a dorm.

The mom left the next day and wasn't feeling well. All those she came in contact with were put into isolation, and tested.

Mom tested negative, and all players tested negative, but they remain apart from everyone else, as a precaution.

That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

Yep. If everybody tests negative, what's the dang issue? She could have had allergies, lol.

Not to mention, every freaking thing the media reported was wrong...

Agree---which is why something doesnt smell right with this explanation. Logic dictates we are not getting the whole story.

I mean, the game was cancelled on the basis of ZERO positive tests? The Party Bus stuff may very well be complete fantasy---but these kids are in school and have contact daily with people who might not "feel well" a few days later. It makes zero sense to be canceling games when you have no positive cases--and the contact point of concern (supposedly a players mom per Memphis) also tests negative. If you're not "feeling well"---then you are symptomatic and would test positive if you have Covid. Thus, the mom not testing positive means there's no reason for any of this. If the "contact point" of concern doesnt have Covid---then this situation and the associated explanation just doesnt add up.

Just spit balling---but my guess there probably was something like a party bus (or maybe just a club or party)---and just one or two players were involved--but those players had contact with a crap load of players by the time word got back to the coaches. Something like that might get as many as 40 players in quarantine for 10 days since there would be no way to back trace and test everyone who was on that bus/party/club/whatever.

(09-14-2020 02:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, the official word of what happened is, a mom came to visit her son in a van, spent time with him and other players in a dorm.

The mom left the next day and wasn't feeling well. All those she came in contact with were put into isolation, and tested.

Mom tested negative, and all players tested negative, but they remain apart from everyone else, as a precaution.

That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

Yep. If everybody tests negative, what's the dang issue? She could have had allergies, lol.

Not to mention, every freaking thing the media reported was wrong...

Agree---which is why something doesnt smell right with this explanation. Logic dictates we are not getting the whole story.

I mean, the game was cancelled on the basis of ZERO positive tests? The Party Bus stuff may very well be complete fantasy---but these kids are in school and have contact daily with people who might not "feel well" a few days later. It makes zero sense to be canceling games when you have no positive cases--and the contact point of concern (supposedly a players mom per Memphis) also tests negative. If you're not "feeling well"---then you are symptomatic and would test positive if you have Covid. Thus, the mom not testing positive means there's no reason for any of this. If the "contact point" of concern doesnt have Covid---then this situation and the associated explanation just doesnt add up.

he never said zero positives, and from the presser, they thought a mom might have spread covid to everyone...the mom turned out negative...the cancellation likely resulted from the fear she spread it to everyone

(09-14-2020 02:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, the official word of what happened is, a mom came to visit her son in a van, spent time with him and other players in a dorm.

The mom left the next day and wasn't feeling well. All those she came in contact with were put into isolation, and tested.

Mom tested negative, and all players tested negative, but they remain apart from everyone else, as a precaution.

That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

Yep. If everybody tests negative, what's the dang issue? She could have had allergies, lol.

Not to mention, every freaking thing the media reported was wrong...

Agree---which is why something doesnt smell right with this explanation. Logic dictates we are not getting the whole story.

I mean, the game was cancelled on the basis of ZERO positive tests? The Party Bus stuff may very well be complete fantasy---but these kids are in school and have contact daily with people who might not "feel well" a few days later. It makes zero sense to be canceling games when you have no positive cases--and the contact point of concern (supposedly a players mom per Memphis) also tests negative. If you're not "feeling well"---then you are symptomatic and would test positive if you have Covid. Thus, the mom not testing positive means there's no reason for any of this. If the "contact point" of concern doesnt have Covid---then this situation and the associated explanation just doesnt add up.

Confusing to me, too. The school released a statement earlier saying a number of people associated with the program tested positive.

Maybe Silverfield was talking only about the ones around the mom who tested negative.

The statement also said the positive results happened outside the football program, and from more than one source, iirc.

(09-14-2020 02:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, the official word of what happened is, a mom came to visit her son in a van, spent time with him and other players in a dorm.

The mom left the next day and wasn't feeling well. All those she came in contact with were put into isolation, and tested.

Mom tested negative, and all players tested negative, but they remain apart from everyone else, as a precaution.

That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

Yep. If everybody tests negative, what's the dang issue? She could have had allergies, lol.

Not to mention, every freaking thing the media reported was wrong...

Agree---which is why something doesnt smell right with this explanation. Logic dictates we are not getting the whole story.

I mean, the game was cancelled on the basis of ZERO positive tests? The Party Bus stuff may very well be complete fantasy---but these kids are in school and have contact daily with people who might not "feel well" a few days later. It makes zero sense to be canceling games when you have no positive cases--and the contact point of concern (supposedly a players mom per Memphis) also tests negative. If you're not "feeling well"---then you are symptomatic and would test positive if you have Covid. Thus, the mom not testing positive means there's no reason for any of this. If the "contact point" of concern doesnt have Covid---then this situation and the associated explanation just doesnt add up.

Just spit balling---but my guess there probably was something like a party bus (or maybe just a club or party)---and just one or two players were involved--but those players had contact with a crap load of players by the time word got back to the coaches. Something like that might get as many as 40 players in quarantine for 10 days since there would be no way to back trace and test everyone who was on that bus/party/club/whatever.

Wasn't it a Houston writer who reported all of this?

(09-14-2020 04:08 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 12:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, the official word of what happened is, a mom came to visit her son in a van, spent time with him and other players in a dorm.

The mom left the next day and wasn't feeling well. All those she came in contact with were put into isolation, and tested.

Mom tested negative, and all players tested negative, but they remain apart from everyone else, as a precaution.

That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

Yep. If everybody tests negative, what's the dang issue? She could have had allergies, lol.

Not to mention, every freaking thing the media reported was wrong...

Agree---which is why something doesnt smell right with this explanation. Logic dictates we are not getting the whole story.

I mean, the game was cancelled on the basis of ZERO positive tests? The Party Bus stuff may very well be complete fantasy---but these kids are in school and have contact daily with people who might not "feel well" a few days later. It makes zero sense to be canceling games when you have no positive cases--and the contact point of concern (supposedly a players mom per Memphis) also tests negative. If you're not "feeling well"---then you are symptomatic and would test positive if you have Covid. Thus, the mom not testing positive means there's no reason for any of this. If the "contact point" of concern doesnt have Covid---then this situation and the associated explanation just doesnt add up.

Just spit balling---but my guess there probably was something like a party bus (or maybe just a club or party)---and just one or two players were involved--but those players had contact with a crap load of players by the time word got back to the coaches. Something like that might get as many as 40 players in quarantine for 10 days since there would be no way to back trace and test everyone who was on that bus/party/club/whatever.

Wasn't it a Houston writer who reported all of this?

No it was espn. The Houston writer just cited the espn source before anyone else. Hence the name of the thread.


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Both teams forfeit if AAC reports 0 positive tests found prior to indefinite postponement.

(09-14-2020 04:17 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 04:08 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-14-2020 02:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  That is some stupid shite right there on every level. Absolute lunacy.

Yep. If everybody tests negative, what's the dang issue? She could have had allergies, lol.

Not to mention, every freaking thing the media reported was wrong...

Agree---which is why something doesnt smell right with this explanation. Logic dictates we are not getting the whole story.

I mean, the game was cancelled on the basis of ZERO positive tests? The Party Bus stuff may very well be complete fantasy---but these kids are in school and have contact daily with people who might not "feel well" a few days later. It makes zero sense to be canceling games when you have no positive cases--and the contact point of concern (supposedly a players mom per Memphis) also tests negative. If you're not "feeling well"---then you are symptomatic and would test positive if you have Covid. Thus, the mom not testing positive means there's no reason for any of this. If the "contact point" of concern doesnt have Covid---then this situation and the associated explanation just doesnt add up.

Just spit balling---but my guess there probably was something like a party bus (or maybe just a club or party)---and just one or two players were involved--but those players had contact with a crap load of players by the time word got back to the coaches. Something like that might get as many as 40 players in quarantine for 10 days since there would be no way to back trace and test everyone who was on that bus/party/club/whatever.

Wasn't it a Houston writer who reported all of this?

No it was espn. The Houston writer just cited the espn source before anyone else. Hence the name of the thread.


Sent from the warp via the ruinous powers of chaos.

It was a Houston radio station affiliate of ESPN....97.5 radio in Houston. The very first post of this thread states that.

Woman starts menopause. Memphis panics.

(09-14-2020 12:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  So, no party bus, no 20+ positive cases, just a mom who felt sick when she went home, and a precaution of testing and isolation. And everybody tests negative.

Silverfield says we have every intention of playing our next game vs. UTSA.

Memphis plays Army Saturday!!! End of story!!!

Make it happen Memphis

(09-13-2020 04:43 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 04:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 03:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:42 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 01:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  So far, all I'm hearing is nobody has symptoms. Not one out of maybe 40 between the positive tests (10-20) and the others who were around them.

Well recently we were hearing that Memphis was on a party bus and that turned out to not be true.

I'm not sure what it will take for people to quit excusing things and recognize how dangerous this disease is for everyone, but my guess is it will take about a million dead.

That'll happen in about this time next year. 400k dead by new years, about a 1,000 dead a day, we'll start seeing the deaths from schools reopening right before October starts so that should be a good obvious spike just like the one that started at the end of June.

Meanwhile Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, almost all of Europe, China, Vietnam, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, etc are all mostly back to normal.

I'm not excusing a damn thing. All I said was none of the ones in quarantine seem to have symptoms so far. Take it or leave it.

Meanwhile, I guess all this crap is America's fault, huh?

And if you are correct about all those other countries, I would be somewhat surprised, b/c several of them had recent surges in cases, including AU, NZ, SoKo and several others.

And Sweden, which never did a lockdown, is also back to normal with all the schools open and nobody locked down or wearing masks.

We're having lots of cases, but the death rate is relatively flat. Which means the cases are mostly young people who are having mild cases.

There are lots of ways to slice this data. Nobody is completely right or wrong. I just hate people picking positions, preaching to everybody else, and using skewed, misinterpreted or cherry picked data (not you).

As for lockdowns, which you seem to want to continue, I think at this point, they are doing way more harm than good. "Essential" workers have proved throughout this ordeal that you can operate safely if you just do the right things.

Swedens infection rate is much higher than any other country in their geographic area.

And on a secondary note Sweden didn't do a lockdown but they did issue advisories on what should be done and they were largely followed.

We see how well people in the US follow advisories.

There needs to be an honest and factual assessment about the reasons behind Swedes’ significantly slowing spread after initial missteps of not protecting the elderly - particularly in facilities.

There were no draconian lockdowns and no mask mandates (indeed Sweden's coronavirus expert said it is dangerous) and schools are in session. The Swedes practiced social distancing voluntarily to some degree according to my understanding, but it seems unlikely the primary driver of their success. Something else is in play.

They aren't successful. Sweden had a much higher infection rate, much higher death rate, and current economic outlooks suggest they will do worse, similar to their second quarter, after doing marginally better than the Danes and Norweigens did (we think) in the third quarter.

In fact not one thing you put out here is actually acurate.

If you add up all the surges in Europe, Israel, South Korea, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand you wouldn't get close to the single day total in the US with the numbers currently. For example the whole state of victoria went back on lockdown when their numbers reached triple digits a few days in a row. That's 6m or so people on a 200 person infection.

I'm not sure what to tell you when you fail to understand that the united states is performing worse than nearly every other country on earth with this and it's not even close. Around 25% of the known problem (with our terrible testing) while only 5% of the population.

(09-15-2020 12:11 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 04:43 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 04:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 03:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:42 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Well recently we were hearing that Memphis was on a party bus and that turned out to not be true.

I'm not sure what it will take for people to quit excusing things and recognize how dangerous this disease is for everyone, but my guess is it will take about a million dead.

That'll happen in about this time next year. 400k dead by new years, about a 1,000 dead a day, we'll start seeing the deaths from schools reopening right before October starts so that should be a good obvious spike just like the one that started at the end of June.

Meanwhile Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, almost all of Europe, China, Vietnam, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, etc are all mostly back to normal.

I'm not excusing a damn thing. All I said was none of the ones in quarantine seem to have symptoms so far. Take it or leave it.

Meanwhile, I guess all this crap is America's fault, huh?

And if you are correct about all those other countries, I would be somewhat surprised, b/c several of them had recent surges in cases, including AU, NZ, SoKo and several others.

And Sweden, which never did a lockdown, is also back to normal with all the schools open and nobody locked down or wearing masks.

We're having lots of cases, but the death rate is relatively flat. Which means the cases are mostly young people who are having mild cases.

There are lots of ways to slice this data. Nobody is completely right or wrong. I just hate people picking positions, preaching to everybody else, and using skewed, misinterpreted or cherry picked data (not you).

As for lockdowns, which you seem to want to continue, I think at this point, they are doing way more harm than good. "Essential" workers have proved throughout this ordeal that you can operate safely if you just do the right things.

Swedens infection rate is much higher than any other country in their geographic area.

And on a secondary note Sweden didn't do a lockdown but they did issue advisories on what should be done and they were largely followed.

We see how well people in the US follow advisories.

There needs to be an honest and factual assessment about the reasons behind Swedes’ significantly slowing spread after initial missteps of not protecting the elderly - particularly in facilities.

There were no draconian lockdowns and no mask mandates (indeed Sweden's coronavirus expert said it is dangerous) and schools are in session. The Swedes practiced social distancing voluntarily to some degree according to my understanding, but it seems unlikely the primary driver of their success. Something else is in play.

They aren't successful. Sweden had a much higher infection rate, much higher death rate, and current economic outlooks suggest they will do worse, similar to their second quarter, after doing marginally better than the Danes and Norweigens did (we think) in the third quarter.

In fact not one thing you put out here is actually acurate.

If you add up all the surges in Europe, Israel, South Korea, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand you wouldn't get close to the single day total in the US with the numbers currently. For example the whole state of victoria went back on lockdown when their numbers reached triple digits a few days in a row. That's 6m or so people on a 200 person infection.

I'm not sure what to tell you when you fail to understand that the united states is performing worse than nearly every other country on earth with this and it's not even close. Around 25% of the known problem (with our terrible testing) while only 5% of the population.

Our terrible testing? Maybe it's everyone else's terrible testing that is keeping their numbers from looking worse.

If you want to stay in your basement with Biden, nobody is going to stop you. Just go for it. My age puts me at risk, but I'm not going to live my life in fear. I'll follow standard protocol by washing my hands, wearing a mask (two actually), but I'm not going shut it down. If I die then I die. I'd rather be dead than in quarantine the rest of my life. Besides if that's the case, we're all going to die anyway. Might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

Georgia State and Georgia Southern are also available if Memphis wants to play Saturday

Perhaps Army will play one of these two.

(09-15-2020 12:44 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(09-15-2020 12:11 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 04:43 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 04:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 03:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I'm not excusing a damn thing. All I said was none of the ones in quarantine seem to have symptoms so far. Take it or leave it.

Meanwhile, I guess all this crap is America's fault, huh?

And if you are correct about all those other countries, I would be somewhat surprised, b/c several of them had recent surges in cases, including AU, NZ, SoKo and several others.

And Sweden, which never did a lockdown, is also back to normal with all the schools open and nobody locked down or wearing masks.

We're having lots of cases, but the death rate is relatively flat. Which means the cases are mostly young people who are having mild cases.

There are lots of ways to slice this data. Nobody is completely right or wrong. I just hate people picking positions, preaching to everybody else, and using skewed, misinterpreted or cherry picked data (not you).

As for lockdowns, which you seem to want to continue, I think at this point, they are doing way more harm than good. "Essential" workers have proved throughout this ordeal that you can operate safely if you just do the right things.

Swedens infection rate is much higher than any other country in their geographic area.

And on a secondary note Sweden didn't do a lockdown but they did issue advisories on what should be done and they were largely followed.

We see how well people in the US follow advisories.

There needs to be an honest and factual assessment about the reasons behind Swedes’ significantly slowing spread after initial missteps of not protecting the elderly - particularly in facilities.

There were no draconian lockdowns and no mask mandates (indeed Sweden's coronavirus expert said it is dangerous) and schools are in session. The Swedes practiced social distancing voluntarily to some degree according to my understanding, but it seems unlikely the primary driver of their success. Something else is in play.

They aren't successful. Sweden had a much higher infection rate, much higher death rate, and current economic outlooks suggest they will do worse, similar to their second quarter, after doing marginally better than the Danes and Norweigens did (we think) in the third quarter.

In fact not one thing you put out here is actually acurate.

If you add up all the surges in Europe, Israel, South Korea, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand you wouldn't get close to the single day total in the US with the numbers currently. For example the whole state of victoria went back on lockdown when their numbers reached triple digits a few days in a row. That's 6m or so people on a 200 person infection.

I'm not sure what to tell you when you fail to understand that the united states is performing worse than nearly every other country on earth with this and it's not even close. Around 25% of the known problem (with our terrible testing) while only 5% of the population.

Our terrible testing? Maybe it's everyone else's terrible testing that is keeping their numbers from looking worse.

If you want to stay in your basement with Biden, nobody is going to stop you. Just go for it. My age puts me at risk, but I'm not going to live my life in fear. I'll follow standard protocol by washing my hands, wearing a mask (two actually), but I'm not going shut it down. If I die then I die. I'd rather be dead than in quarantine the rest of my life. Besides if that's the case, we're all going to die anyway. Might as well enjoy it while it lasts.

Brave. Stupid....but brave.

(09-15-2020 12:11 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 04:43 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 04:11 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 03:50 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:42 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Well recently we were hearing that Memphis was on a party bus and that turned out to not be true.

I'm not sure what it will take for people to quit excusing things and recognize how dangerous this disease is for everyone, but my guess is it will take about a million dead.

That'll happen in about this time next year. 400k dead by new years, about a 1,000 dead a day, we'll start seeing the deaths from schools reopening right before October starts so that should be a good obvious spike just like the one that started at the end of June.

Meanwhile Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, almost all of Europe, China, Vietnam, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, etc are all mostly back to normal.

I'm not excusing a damn thing. All I said was none of the ones in quarantine seem to have symptoms so far. Take it or leave it.

Meanwhile, I guess all this crap is America's fault, huh?

And if you are correct about all those other countries, I would be somewhat surprised, b/c several of them had recent surges in cases, including AU, NZ, SoKo and several others.

And Sweden, which never did a lockdown, is also back to normal with all the schools open and nobody locked down or wearing masks.

We're having lots of cases, but the death rate is relatively flat. Which means the cases are mostly young people who are having mild cases.

There are lots of ways to slice this data. Nobody is completely right or wrong. I just hate people picking positions, preaching to everybody else, and using skewed, misinterpreted or cherry picked data (not you).

As for lockdowns, which you seem to want to continue, I think at this point, they are doing way more harm than good. "Essential" workers have proved throughout this ordeal that you can operate safely if you just do the right things.

Swedens infection rate is much higher than any other country in their geographic area.

And on a secondary note Sweden didn't do a lockdown but they did issue advisories on what should be done and they were largely followed.

We see how well people in the US follow advisories.

There needs to be an honest and factual assessment about the reasons behind Swedes’ significantly slowing spread after initial missteps of not protecting the elderly - particularly in facilities.

There were no draconian lockdowns and no mask mandates (indeed Sweden's coronavirus expert said it is dangerous) and schools are in session. The Swedes practiced social distancing voluntarily to some degree according to my understanding, but it seems unlikely the primary driver of their success. Something else is in play.

They aren't successful. Sweden had a much higher infection rate, much higher death rate, and current economic outlooks suggest they will do worse, similar to their second quarter, after doing marginally better than the Danes and Norweigens did (we think) in the third quarter.

In fact not one thing you put out here is actually acurate.

If you add up all the surges in Europe, Israel, South Korea, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand you wouldn't get close to the single day total in the US with the numbers currently. For example the whole state of victoria went back on lockdown when their numbers reached triple digits a few days in a row. That's 6m or so people on a 200 person infection.

I'm not sure what to tell you when you fail to understand that the united states is performing worse than nearly every other country on earth with this and it's not even close. Around 25% of the known problem (with our terrible testing) while only 5% of the population.

This is absolutely false. The US has a lower death % than the EU countries and when it comes to economic contraction the US is far above the EU in terms of GDP loss. We are both keeping more people alive who catch covid, and keeping our healthy people productive.

The entire rest of the world can’t be counted upon aside from Japan and South Korea, who I will admit handled this better than us because they have had several pandemics to prepare for something like this so they knew the drill. 10 years ago it would not have been the case.

That being said, we are good now. Go outside, don’t wear a mask. If you catch covid and aren’t already on your death bead the docs know how to help you. I openly encourage you catching covid to get your immunity