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Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
As stated above... Would you be on board with this AAC if it meant AQ status and true P6 conference affiliation? Guaranteed spot in one of the Peach, Cotton, or Fiesta Bowls annually.

Full bore ESPN contract for their content, and be in the $400-500M range.
Roughly $18-22M per school (depending on FB vs non, etc). CFP bowl cash and NCAA units on top of that.
Incorporate all the the remaining name brands/known schools with solid fan bases that draw eyes to TV sets. Restore rivalries and driveable games (we see how COVID has affected this), but with all of the plusses of a National brand and reach.
Have solid Basketball with VCU, Wichita, and Zags aboard.

Some schools will have protected cross div rivals.

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American Athletic Conference

East
——————
1-Army (NY)*
2-Navy (MD)*
3-Temple (PA)
4-East Carolina (NC)
5-Marshall (WV)
6-Cincinnati (OH)
7-UCF (FL)
8-USF (FL)
*(VCU) (VA)

Central
—————
1-Memphis (TN)
2-Southern Miss (MS)
3-Tulane (LA)
4-Houston (TX)
5-SMU (TX)
6-Tulsa (OK)
7-New Mexico (NM)
8-Air Force (CO)
*(Wichita St) (KS)

West
—————
1-Colorado St (CO)
2-Wyoming (WY)
3-BYU (UT)
4-Boise St (ID)
5-UNLV (NV)
6-Fresno St (CA)
7-San Diego St. (CA)
8-Hawaii (HI)
*(Gonzaga) (WA)

——————
1: Non-conference G4/P6
2: Non-conference P6
3: Non-conference P6
4: Interdivisional (Rotating)/fixed for SA
5: Interdivisional (Rotating)/fixed for SA
6: Divisional
7: Divisional
8: Divisional
9: Divisional
10: Divisional
11: Divisional
12: Divisional
13: (away Hawaii game/extra home game)

AAC Champ Game: Top 2 Highest Rated Division Winners (Record/Playoff Committee Ranking)

———————
ESPN contract
Thursday prime time (ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU)

Friday prime time (ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU)

Sat Noon-Midnight
games across all the networks (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN+)

Any game not on one of the ESPN networks, will be broadcast on ESPN+ internationally, and will have 3rd Tier access rights available to pick up on local networks.
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Bowl Games:
——————-
Top Tier:
AQ spot/AAC Champ
*NY6 / Playoff
•Fiesta Bowl
•Cotton Bowl
•Peach Bowl

P6 Tier 1 Traditional Bowl Games:
(highest profile backup games selected first, if available, then all contractual Tier 1 spots filled thereafter. Based on geography, matchup, and ranking as much as possible for fan support).

•Liberty Bowl vs SEC/Big XII
(Liberty Bowl Stadium/Memphis, Tenn.)

•Cheez-It Tangerine Bowl vs ACC/Big XII
(Camping World Stadium/Orlando, Fla.)

•Copper Bowl (Cactus Bowl) vs Big XII/PAC-12 (Chase Field/Phoenix, Ariz.)

•Independence Bowl vs ACC/ND/PAC-12
(Independence Stadium/Shreveport, La.)

•Aloha (Hawaii) Bowl vs PAC-12
(Aloha Stadium/Honolulu, Hawaii)

•Military Bowl vs ACC/ND
(Navy-Marine Corp. Memorial Stadium/Annapolis, Md.)

•First Responder Bowl vs Big XII
(Cotton Bowl Stadium/Dallas, Texas)

•Fenway Bowl vs ACC/ND
(Fenway Park/Boston, Mass.)

•Gasparilla Bowl vs SEC
(Raymond James Stadium/Tampa, Fla.)

•Armed Forces Bowl vs Big XII/BigTen
(Amon G. Carter Stadium/Fort Worth, Texas)

•Birmingham Bowl vs SEC
(Legion Field/Birmingham, Ala.)

————
*Holiday Bowl vs BigTen/PAC-12 (backup)
(San Diego, Calif.)
*Sun Bowl vs PAC-12/ACC/ND (backup)
(El Paso, Texas)
*Las Vegas Bowl vs PAC-12/BigTen/SEC (backup)
(Las Vegas, Nev.)
*Red Box Bowl vs Big Ten/PAC-12 (backup)
(Santa Clara, Calif.)
————

After all Tier 1 games, and backup slots are filled, Tier 2 selections will take place if teams are still available.

Tier 2 Bowl Games:
•Myrtle Beach Bowl (Conway, S.C.)
•Boca Raton Bowl (Boca Raton, Fla.)
•New Orleans Bowl (New Orleans, La.)
•Cure Bowl (Orlando, Fla.)
•Frisco Bowl (Frisco, Texas)
•New Mexico Bowl (Albuquerque, N.M.)
•Idaho Potato Bowl (Boise, Idaho)
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RE: Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
On the face of this post, I like the concept. I do think it’ll take a larger, nationally-covered conference like this to get an autobid to the NY6 - if ever. Sticking with 24 football schools, I’d have the following:

1) AAC (all 11)
2) MWC (7): Air Force, Boise St, Colorado St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego St
3) IND (2): Army, BYU
4) CUSA (4): Rice, Marshall, Southern Miss, UAB

With one of the following alignments:

3x8
West: Air Force, Boise St, BYU, Colorado St, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego St
Central: Houston, Navy, Rice, SMU, Southern Miss, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB
East: Army, Central Florida, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Marshall, Memphis, South Florida, Temple

4x6
West: Boise St, BYU, Fresno St, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego St
Central: Air Force, Colorado St, Houston, Navy, SMU, Tulsa
South: Central Florida, Memphis, South Florida, Southern Miss, Tulane, UAB
East: Army, Cincinnati, East Carolina, Marshall, Memphis, Temple
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RE: Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
Not sure why USM and Marshall are added.
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(09-07-2020 04:49 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Not sure why USM and Marshall are added.

The OP is a Marshall fan so that's why Marshall's included. Southern Mississippi is odd considering Alabama Birmingham isn't included. Also Nevada Reno and Utah State were also left out (along with San Jose State although they are considered a weaker MWC team even though they are in one of the best locations you can get).
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RE: Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
I tried to logically go with teams that have brand recognition in football and/or basketball.
It’s not about markets with a TV contract. I think the last round of realignment showed us that.

It’s about BRAND. (Ask ESPN which teams they want and I bet you see a list fairly close to this).
This isn’t the Big Ten trying to add Maryland and Rutgers so they can add more households in DC and NYC to their BTN reach. This conference is going to be based on and out of a more traditional ESPN media rights deal for exposure. And markets have little to do with that. ESPN is already in those households. Nationwide casual fan tune-in is what they are after for advertising dollars.

Actual fan bases are only a plus. As are rivalries, which are huge to be fair for us as die-hard fans. But to the casual eye balls not so much. People know Ohio St-Michigan is a rivalry. People don’t know Indiana and Purdue play for the Old Oaken Bucket. I tried to be fair in my assessments there. Yes, I’m a Marshall fan as well as a WVU fan (they should be in the ACC, but that’s a completely different post). But I went about this with brand in mind. If there is a bigger brand out there to put in Marshall’s place, so be it.

The name of the game here is what networks want to put on TV. And what draws casual observer eye balls. It’s not about what die hard fans want to see. As much as it’s a dumb idea (due to lack of fan base and cross town “rival” (quotations were for sarcasm) Rice is a bigger brand name than Tulsa.

People know Southern Miss for playing anyone, anytime, anywhere. Rivalries with Memphis and Tulane are pluses.

People know Marshall for football, Moss, Pennington, WAM, and the plane crash. Proximity and rivalries with Cinci, ECU, and yes You too UCF are a plus.

Keeping Army/Navy in the same division takes away the champ game scenario worry there of doubling the Army-Navy game. (Which they’ll still be able to bid out for TV as they do now, but it’s a conf game with American logo on the field now).

Having all 3 service academies under the American conference brand is a huge get. National coverage/spread. And it flows perfectly with the conference name and mission. As well as incorporating both the Miltary and Armed Forces bowls to the conference line-up.

New Mexico and UNLV... basketball names. Draws eyes. Nevada May be better, but people know UNLV. And being Vegas with new shared Raiders stadium right by campus and the Strip is even better.

BYU huge add for brand and reach. By far outweighs a Utah State add.

Boise, again, huge add for brand and FB.

Gonzaga HUGE add for brand.

San Jose St, Utah State, Nevada, Old Dominion, UABirmingham, most all others out there really don’t move the needle with casual eye balls. Not saying anyone in this entire conference list moves them like Ohio State. But certainly there is more brand recognition in these names than others.

It’s the best combo of brand recognition and good football/basketball you can get.
I really feel like before the next contract renegotiation the AAC leadership will need to go big and work it out with ESPN behind the scenes prior to doing it. It will effectively kill off/weaken the MWC, and make the AAC the de facto best “G5”. But with ESPN wanting the content, it becomes more in their best interest for the name schools in the P6 to play one another. It draws more attention and eye balls that way. TV will determine the path of the future. You go BIG this way, but keep things regional at the same time. Best of both worlds.
Like someone stated in the other thread, the P6 narrative isn’t about being the P6 right now. It’s about separating yourself from the others G5, and about building that “P6 brand” in the minds of everyone for the next TV contract. And it’s not going to work if there is still a MWC with Boise, and BYU, Army still out there.
Get the name schools under the umbrella, and it will add legitimacy.

Same with basketball and adding the Zags. Even though P6 doesn’t mean anything in basketball, it’s still used to separate major from mid-major when commentators talk shop. Go BIG!
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The problem I see here is - if these schools are all currently making no more than $7m a year in media money (the AAC schools), with most making much less than that - what makes you think that ESPN or anyone else would be willing to pay $20 million a school for this conference?
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(09-07-2020 06:26 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  People know Southern Miss for playing anyone, anytime, anywhere. Rivalries with Memphis and Tulane are pluses.

I don't. They're the third choice in Mississippi behind Mississippi and Mississippi State. Can anyone in Memphis or Tulane acknowledge Southern Miss as a rival to them? To me they're about as irrelevant an FBS school as you can get. Speaking of irrelevant, Wyoming? They're literally the least populous state in the entire country. Who on this board gives a crap about them? If (men's) basketball is a concern of yours, Nevada made the last three NCAA Tournaments and the 2018 Sweet 16 and they're left out in favor of Wyoming? Would you rather go to Reno or .... Laramie (I think that's where Wyoming is, I'm not even sure, that's how irrelevant they are).
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(09-07-2020 08:58 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 06:26 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  People know Southern Miss for playing anyone, anytime, anywhere. Rivalries with Memphis and Tulane are pluses.

I don't. They're the third choice in Mississippi behind Mississippi and Mississippi State. Can anyone in Memphis or Tulane acknowledge Southern Miss as a rival to them? To me they're about as irrelevant an FBS school as you can get. Speaking of irrelevant, Wyoming? They're literally the least populous state in the entire country. Who on this board gives a crap about them? If (men's) basketball is a concern of yours, Nevada made the last three NCAA Tournaments and the 2018 Sweet 16 and they're left out in favor of Wyoming? Would you rather go to Reno or .... Laramie (I think that's where Wyoming is, I'm not even sure, that's how irrelevant they are).

They're our #1 rival now that LSU and Tulane don't play anymore. We're not in the same conference and we're facing each other in 6 of the next 9 years - which isn't by accident.

With that said, they've fallen off a cliff. The budget issues that were minor 10 years ago are now catastrophic as all of their ACTUAL regional rivals (UH, Tulane, Memphis, etc.) are drawing increasing TV checks and have found backing in other forms to supplement it.
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(09-07-2020 08:58 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 06:26 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  People know Southern Miss for playing anyone, anytime, anywhere. Rivalries with Memphis and Tulane are pluses.

I don't. They're the third choice in Mississippi behind Mississippi and Mississippi State. Can anyone in Memphis or Tulane acknowledge Southern Miss as a rival to them? To me they're about as irrelevant an FBS school as you can get. Speaking of irrelevant, Wyoming? They're literally the least populous state in the entire country. Who on this board gives a crap about them? If (men's) basketball is a concern of yours, Nevada made the last three NCAA Tournaments and the 2018 Sweet 16 and they're left out in favor of Wyoming? Would you rather go to Reno or .... Laramie (I think that's where Wyoming is, I'm not even sure, that's how irrelevant they are).

Well ... of course USM is the "third choice" in Mississippi after the two SEC schools, who wouldn't be?

Also, I can tell you that down here in the deep south, USM football is respected. Not in a big-time SEC way, but for their G5 level, they have a long proud tradition of playing good tough southern football.

And it's funny you mention Tulane and Memphis, because both have played USM many times, and not with all that much success - USM is 23-7 vs Tulane and 40-22 vs Memphis. They also are 27 - 12 vs ECU.

One of the sad things about the 2010-2012 realignments that was not noticed by those who only focus on what the P5 are doing was the disruption of many of these kinds of southern G5-level rivalries and series, particularly as a result of the reshuffling that took many C-USA teams in to the new AAC. IIRC, USM hasn't played any of those three teams since around 2012.
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RE: Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
So, what's in it for the AAC? Looks to me like they would just be subsidizing a bunch of schools that the media aren't interested in paying. Forget a $400-500 million contract. Think more like $120 million ($5 million per school). All that just to cut the MAC, CUSA and Sunbelt out of a shot at the CFP? They are already pretty close to shut out as it is.

Nobody is going to recognize something like this as a power conference. Just take the top 8 AAC schools and the top 4 western schools (3 MWC and BYU) and you have all the brands you need. It still won't be a power conference, but it's going to get the CFP spot 80% of the time or more.
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(09-07-2020 09:31 AM)ken d Wrote:  So, what's in it for the AAC? Looks to me like they would just be subsidizing a bunch of schools that the media aren't interested in paying. Forget a $400-500 million contract. Think more like $120 million ($5 million per school). All that just to cut the MAC, CUSA and Sunbelt out of a shot at the CFP? They are already pretty close to shut out as it is.

Nobody is going to recognize something like this as a power conference. Just take the top 8 AAC schools and the top 4 western schools (3 MWC and BYU) and you have all the brands you need. It still won't be a power conference, but it's going to get the CFP spot 80% of the time or more.

Yes, the math doesn't add up ... How does adding a $7m a year AAC school to a $1m a year C-USA school and a $4m a year MW school add up to $20m a year for each?

More like ... 7 + 4 +1 = 12/3 = $4m per school, or as you say, a pay cut for the AAC school.
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(09-07-2020 12:21 AM)ThunderDent Wrote:  As stated above... Would you be on board with this AAC if it meant AQ status and true P6 conference affiliation? Guaranteed spot in one of the Peach, Cotton, or Fiesta Bowls annually.

Full bore ESPN contract for their content, and be in the $400-500M range.
Roughly $18-22M per school (depending on FB vs non, etc). CFP bowl cash and NCAA units on top of that.
Incorporate all the the remaining name brands/known schools with solid fan bases that draw eyes to TV sets. Restore rivalries and driveable games (we see how COVID has affected this), but with all of the plusses of a National brand and reach.
Have solid Basketball with VCU, Wichita, and Zags aboard.

Some schools will have protected cross div rivals.

[Image: fmAcOzu_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape...ity=medium]

———
American Athletic Conference

East
——————
1-Army (NY)*
2-Navy (MD)*
3-Temple (PA)
4-East Carolina (NC)
5-Marshall (WV)
6-Cincinnati (OH)
7-UCF (FL)
8-USF (FL)
*(VCU) (VA)

Central
—————
1-Memphis (TN)
2-Southern Miss (MS)
3-Tulane (LA)
4-Houston (TX)
5-SMU (TX)
6-Tulsa (OK)
7-New Mexico (NM)
8-Air Force (CO)
*(Wichita St) (KS)

West
—————
1-Colorado St (CO)
2-Wyoming (WY)
3-BYU (UT)
4-Boise St (ID)
5-UNLV (NV)
6-Fresno St (CA)
7-San Diego St. (CA)
8-Hawaii (HI)
*(Gonzaga) (WA)

——————
1: Non-conference G4/P6
2: Non-conference P6
3: Non-conference P6
4: Interdivisional (Rotating)/fixed for SA
5: Interdivisional (Rotating)/fixed for SA
6: Divisional
7: Divisional
8: Divisional
9: Divisional
10: Divisional
11: Divisional
12: Divisional
13: (away Hawaii game/extra home game)

AAC Champ Game: Top 2 Highest Rated Division Winners (Record/Playoff Committee Ranking)

———————
ESPN contract
Thursday prime time (ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU)

Friday prime time (ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU)

Sat Noon-Midnight
games across all the networks (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN+)

Any game not on one of the ESPN networks, will be broadcast on ESPN+ internationally, and will have 3rd Tier access rights available to pick up on local networks.
—————————


Bowl Games:
——————-
Top Tier:
AQ spot/AAC Champ
*NY6 / Playoff
•Fiesta Bowl
•Cotton Bowl
•Peach Bowl

P6 Tier 1 Traditional Bowl Games:
(highest profile backup games selected first, if available, then all contractual Tier 1 spots filled thereafter. Based on geography, matchup, and ranking as much as possible for fan support).

•Liberty Bowl vs SEC/Big XII
(Liberty Bowl Stadium/Memphis, Tenn.)

•Cheez-It Tangerine Bowl vs ACC/Big XII
(Camping World Stadium/Orlando, Fla.)

•Copper Bowl (Cactus Bowl) vs Big XII/PAC-12 (Chase Field/Phoenix, Ariz.)

•Independence Bowl vs ACC/ND/PAC-12
(Independence Stadium/Shreveport, La.)

•Aloha (Hawaii) Bowl vs PAC-12
(Aloha Stadium/Honolulu, Hawaii)

•Military Bowl vs ACC/ND
(Navy-Marine Corp. Memorial Stadium/Annapolis, Md.)

•First Responder Bowl vs Big XII
(Cotton Bowl Stadium/Dallas, Texas)

•Fenway Bowl vs ACC/ND
(Fenway Park/Boston, Mass.)

•Gasparilla Bowl vs SEC
(Raymond James Stadium/Tampa, Fla.)

•Armed Forces Bowl vs Big XII/BigTen
(Amon G. Carter Stadium/Fort Worth, Texas)

•Birmingham Bowl vs SEC
(Legion Field/Birmingham, Ala.)

————
*Holiday Bowl vs BigTen/PAC-12 (backup)
(San Diego, Calif.)
*Sun Bowl vs PAC-12/ACC/ND (backup)
(El Paso, Texas)
*Las Vegas Bowl vs PAC-12/BigTen/SEC (backup)
(Las Vegas, Nev.)
*Red Box Bowl vs Big Ten/PAC-12 (backup)
(Santa Clara, Calif.)
————

After all Tier 1 games, and backup slots are filled, Tier 2 selections will take place if teams are still available.

Tier 2 Bowl Games:
•Myrtle Beach Bowl (Conway, S.C.)
•Boca Raton Bowl (Boca Raton, Fla.)
•New Orleans Bowl (New Orleans, La.)
•Cure Bowl (Orlando, Fla.)
•Frisco Bowl (Frisco, Texas)
•New Mexico Bowl (Albuquerque, N.M.)
•Idaho Potato Bowl (Boise, Idaho)


If this happened, I would try to "get on board" (as a Memphis and Cincy fan). It clearly would be a league with lots of positives. But the negatives would likely outweigh those.

Interesting concept, ThunderDent. I enjoyed taking a look.
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(09-07-2020 10:17 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Interesting concept, ThunderDent. I enjoyed taking a look.

So did I, though I disagree with the basic premise of how much this conference is worth.

IIRC, ThunderDent is one of those posters who flits in and out. He's been around for years but often goes months without posting. Wish he'd post more frequently.
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(09-07-2020 10:37 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 10:17 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Interesting concept, ThunderDent. I enjoyed taking a look.

So did I, though I disagree with the basic premise of how much this conference is worth.

IIRC, ThunderDent is one of those posters who flits in and out. He's been around for years but often goes months without posting. Wish he'd post more frequently.


Agree. Posters who offer interesting (and often distinctive) hypotheticals ... I like that. It adds to the overall board dynamic.
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Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
If we could find a way to monetize threads about the AAC, we would have SEC level money
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So, here's the thing: if the AAC, at present, is not an AQ conference, who is being added in this proposal that guarantees it would then becomes one? IMO, much like the old Big East, the addition of several non-power programs does not collectively create a power conference; it's just another conference with way too many non-power conference programs.

I think this concept is one that will never materialize, respectfully, because it has never been done before - and the reason it has never been done before is because the money was never what it needed to be justify creating a national best of the rest conference. The "Western Wing" always falls flat because, outside of Boise State, BYU, San Diego State and/or Air Force, none of these new programs don't elevate any of the areas needed to increase value for the AAC (on-field product, media market, recruiting market, TV ratings, etc.), and none of those programs are individually moving because, again, the value is not there in order to make a move.
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Thanks for the kind words guys.

Yes, I used to be hugely active in these boards. 10-15 times a day or more. Life took a turn with kids, and career, and my time hasn’t been as involved here. Same for the HerdFans board I’m a part of. (Which I’m somehow not able to even sign into.). Also, I split time posting on several car message boards as I’m into those as well. But even that has fallen off. Life gets in the way!

In many ways, Southern Miss and Marshall both had the wind knocked out of their sails when they were left behind. I’d go so far to say the 2 most “storied” and name programs in CUSA. Lots of FB history there.
Southern Miss has a pretty decent following and is respected.

I agree on Wyoming somewhat. Had them left out for a bit, but decided to put them in for the logo. Haha. Only sort of kidding. But 2 Nevada schools didn’t make my cut.

As far as money, I was throwing that out there as something that would need to happen to make it worth it to do. Equal or lesser cuts make no sense certainly. Opinions there very welcomed.

I do think that becoming a P6 (legitimate at the next round of CFP contracts) would take a big move like this. Because no one would go for it if big “names” were still left out there. And I like the fact it wipes the MWC (the biggest threat to the now AAC out in one fail swoop (sag that again as Gov Tarkin).

I also feel like it will take ESPN to legitimize this. If they do it, and want it it will work. The current P5 need OOC content/games, and the push is coming to scrap the scrubs. Having legitimate P6 branded competition, but certainly on a lower level than some of the blue bloods, gives them more inventory to schedule and call it playing a P6 (like Duke, Wake, Wassu, etc). Even though we know most on the AAC list above are better than those teams.

Again, I believe it has to be ESPN and conf commish led, behind the scenes, and done in place for the next round of contracts to work. It will likely be the schools ESPN brass hand pick.

Interesting concept I think.
And I love it for rivalries, and close games. As well as national reach.
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RE: Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
How about this? A football-only FBS league (which I know is currently against the rules).

Best of the Rest Conference
Pod 1: Cincinnati, Temple, Toledo, Western Michigan
Pod 2: Appalachian State, Central Florida, Memphis, South Florida
Pod 3: Air Force, Army, Houston, Navy
Pod 4: Boise State, BYU, San Diego State, Utah State
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RE: Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
simple answer to OP is, it dont matter who the teams are, if AQ status and contracts are being given, everyone will and should say YES.
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RE: Would you do an AAC like this for AQ?
I don't hate it. I'd trim off a little fat and go more with a best of the rest conference of 16. Two divisions of 8, with winner guaranteed a NY6 bowl.

11 current AAC teams + the obvious choices

BYU
Boise St.
Army
Air Force
(Pick one - ODU, USM, Marshall, SDSU, etc.)

SDSU is probably the best one, but they're so far out of footprint.
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