(08-31-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 09:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 09:12 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  All the misdirection is on purpose

Maybe, maybe not. To me, the first thing that screwed up the count was the feds paying way extra for all Covid cases. No hospital is so pure as to miss that opportunity.

If I were a financial officer at a hospital... every single person that came in without insurance would be an automatic Covid patient. Most people with insurance that came in would be an automatic Covid patient.

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(08-31-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  If I were a financial officer at a hospital... every single person that came in without insurance would be an automatic Covid patient. Most people with insurance that came in would be an automatic Covid patient.

I am. The only problem with this is that your covid rate would be much higher than everyone else so you wouldn't get the whole amount...

But you're right that there is absolutely a science to it.

What you really want to do is to take a long time getting the test back so that you can isolate them and charge accelerated rates without ever having to treat COVID. Isolation isn't cheap, but its not the same cost as treating COVID.

(08-31-2020 02:10 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  If I were a financial officer at a hospital... every single person that came in without insurance would be an automatic Covid patient. Most people with insurance that came in would be an automatic Covid patient.

I am. The only problem with this is that your covid rate would be much higher than everyone else so you wouldn't get the whole amount...

But you're right that there is absolutely a science to it.

What you really want to do is to take a long time getting the test back so that you can isolate them and charge accelerated rates without ever having to treat COVID. Isolation isn't cheap, but its not the same cost as treating COVID.

lol......I knew it....

if tasked, I'd gin 'it' too.....

According to (newly updated data from) the CDC 9,683 died in the United States with only having COVID-19 listed on their death certificate.

does anyone have the same number for the flu? died in the United States with only having flu listed on their death certificate.

(08-31-2020 04:05 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  According to (newly updated data from) the CDC 9,683 died in the United States with only having COVID-19 listed on their death certificate.

does anyone have the same number for the flu? died in the United States with only having flu listed on their death certificate.

it only matters to nil....

if ya enjoy stupid play, stock up on quarters and continue to plug that slot...

I can't hang muh head any lower at the obvious....

(08-31-2020 07:50 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 03:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Our advance medicine can prolong people to live longer. The Covid-19 caused more than 200,000 deaths in the US because there are cases that got no testing done at all. Of course, the CDC is now polictcalized now thanks to Trump. I do not trust those figures, because it is skewed to make Trump look good instead for us to fight this deadly virus. Trump is killing us all with his own personal greed and ego.

Biden is that you? That's a hell of a word salad you got going there.

You want to discuss figures you don't trust? I don't trust none of them, especially when someone is killed in a car accident and the death was attributed to COVID.

Biden hasn't lost his mind and he isn't confused. He's following the teleprompter word
for word. We just didn't know David was his speech writer.

Lol

Nice

(08-31-2020 04:05 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  According to (newly updated data from) the CDC 9,683 died in the United States with only having COVID-19 listed on their death certificate.

does anyone have the same number for the flu? died in the United States with only having flu listed on their death certificate.

Probably close to zero, as it should be. That sort of report would be rejected by any state office

(08-30-2020 03:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Our advance medicine can prolong people to live longer. The Covid-19 caused more than 200,000 deaths in the US because there are cases that got no testing done at all. Of course, the CDC is now polictcalized now thanks to Trump. I do not trust those figures, because it is skewed to make Trump look good instead for us to fight this deadly virus. Trump is killing us all with his own personal greed and ego.

This entire line shows someone more interested in politics than facts... I'll let them decide for themselves if that is intentional or just laziness either on their part, or on the part of people whom they listen to.

a) while certainly the President can decide whom to include or not in a press briefing, it is ridiculous to imply that the CDC is misreporting data that they are reporting in exactly the same way that they always have, to 'make Trump look good'. If the data makes Trump look good, that's because it does. I didn't say it did... you did.

b) unlike any other disease on the planet, you don't need a positive covid test to put that on the death certificate. The rationale for this decision is benign in that it is common to not have a reliable test immediately available for a novel virus.... but given that diagnosis and reimbursement go hand in hand... you are suggesting that a doctor and the entire facility didn't exercise appropriate caution and risked spreading a highly contagious disease during a federally declared pandemic. Not only that, but you are suggesting that they intentionally declined to get paid appropriately to do their jobs... and that the state medical examiners office was complicit in that they didn't question the findings.

but yeah, let's go with that idea because we can ignorantly argue that even if all of that is true, that it is somehow Trump's fault.... and that the entire nation including NY and Cali are complicit.

NY was so complicit that they posted a death rate 4-5 times the rest of the nation, just to make him look good.

(08-31-2020 02:10 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 12:24 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  If I were a financial officer at a hospital... every single person that came in without insurance would be an automatic Covid patient. Most people with insurance that came in would be an automatic Covid patient.

I am. The only problem with this is that your covid rate would be much higher than everyone else so you wouldn't get the whole amount...

But you're right that there is absolutely a science to it.

What you really want to do is to take a long time getting the test back so that you can isolate them and charge accelerated rates without ever having to treat COVID. Isolation isn't cheap, but its not the same cost as treating COVID.

Things like this are just one reason I feel there should be zero government involvement in any health insurance....zero.