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(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
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While I realize this is basically an opinion board, this is one of those decisions for which there is no "right" or "wrong" answer, either for conferences or individual schools.
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(09-16-2020 10:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 10:36 AM)usffan Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
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As a preface, I agree 100% that the B1G screwed this up badly by jumping the gun on making a definitive statement for no reason other than to try to push their narrative and their arrogant belief that the rest of the country wouldn't just join in in lock step. Once they realized they'd drastically overplayed their hand, they've revised their approach (to one that leaves them little room for error, which further shows the stupidity of their decision).

That being said, the SEC still hasn't played a game yet. Your post is a bit like declaring victory after the first quarter. There's still a lot of time left before the season is over...

Well, it depends on what he means by "got it right". If he means the SEC/ACC/B12 were wiser to not cancel in August and to move forward with plans to play, he's right. That was a poor decision by the B1G regardless of what happens going forward.

But if he means that they were right in that football will be played this entire Fall, that is as you say still up in the air. The SEC/B12/ACC could all still cancel football at any time, if the situation changes.

As much as I do not want this to happen, it would be hilarious if the other conferences said “we’re not playing this fall” now. The B10 would look even more ridiculous.
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(09-16-2020 11:30 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
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While I realize this is basically an opinion board, this is one of those decisions for which there is no "right" or "wrong" answer, either for conferences or individual schools.

Though I agree with the tenor of your remarks, I can't help but hear the voice of an Ivy educated relative who lives off of the goodness of his family because his self importance has rendered employment moot, and who can't mechanically keep any equipment, vehicles or appliances in good repair, but yet feels he has the right to tell everyone else who is providing for him how they should live, and when one of them proves him wrong he always ends the conversation with "there is no right or wrong answer for any individual". It seems to be a great dodge for responsibility and an easy out for those who want to tell everyone else how they should live when their own lives demonstrate their faulty decision making and inability to manage.
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(09-16-2020 11:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:30 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
07-coffee3

While I realize this is basically an opinion board, this is one of those decisions for which there is no "right" or "wrong" answer, either for conferences or individual schools.

Though I agree with the tenor of your remarks, I can't help but hear the voice of an Ivy educated relative who lives off of the goodness of his family because his self importance has rendered employment moot, and who can't mechanically keep any equipment, vehicles or appliances in good repair, but yet feels he has the right to tell everyone else who is providing for him how they should live, and when one of them proves him wrong he always ends the conversation with "there is no right or wrong answer for any individual". It seems to be a great dodge for responsibility and an easy out for those who want to tell everyone else how they should live when their own lives demonstrate their faulty decision making and inability to manage.

Not everyone who walks down the darkened ominous alley in the bad part of town as a shortcut is going to get jumped or worse, but those odds shouldn’t dictate why we walk down it anyway. So, why take it at all? Isn’t that the core of risk assumption and appetite?

Colleges don’t need football. They simply don’t. That isn’t Ivy League talk, it’s practically every other college and university in the country except those in D1 FBS, and even there it’s not unanimous.

It’s a concept that’s as over as a fart in church, and even I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Let the pro’s play because it’s what the NFL only does. Colleges have enough on their plates, and I don’t want to have to fund them for their mistakes.
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(09-16-2020 01:02 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:30 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
07-coffee3

While I realize this is basically an opinion board, this is one of those decisions for which there is no "right" or "wrong" answer, either for conferences or individual schools.

Though I agree with the tenor of your remarks, I can't help but hear the voice of an Ivy educated relative who lives off of the goodness of his family because his self importance has rendered employment moot, and who can't mechanically keep any equipment, vehicles or appliances in good repair, but yet feels he has the right to tell everyone else who is providing for him how they should live, and when one of them proves him wrong he always ends the conversation with "there is no right or wrong answer for any individual". It seems to be a great dodge for responsibility and an easy out for those who want to tell everyone else how they should live when their own lives demonstrate their faulty decision making and inability to manage.

Not everyone who walks down the darkened ominous alley in the bad part of town as a shortcut is going to get jumped or worse, but those odds shouldn’t dictate why we walk down it anyway. So, why take it at all? Isn’t that the core of risk assumption and appetite?

Colleges don’t need football. They simply don’t. That isn’t Ivy League talk, it’s practically every other college and university in the country except those in D1 FBS, and even there it’s not unanimous.

It’s a concept that’s as over as a fart in church, and even I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Let the pro’s play because it’s what the NFL only does. Colleges have enough on their plates, and I don’t want to have to fund them for their mistakes.

I don't disagree, but this will be the road less traveled. Bureaucrats, and that is what many academics are, resist massive changes to the status quo. They will tweak and tweak and ignore and stall, because big money donors and the exposure they get for enrollment from televised sports is too much of their current business model and they fear the unknown more than they fear the obvious.
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(09-16-2020 10:36 AM)usffan Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
07-coffee3

As a preface, I agree 100% that the B1G screwed this up badly by jumping the gun on making a definitive statement for no reason other than to try to push their narrative and their arrogant belief that the rest of the country wouldn't just join in in lock step. Once they realized they'd drastically overplayed their hand, they've revised their approach (to one that leaves them little room for error, which further shows the stupidity of their decision).

That being said, the SEC still hasn't played a game yet. Your post is a bit like declaring victory after the first quarter. There's still a lot of time left before the season is over...

USFFan

IMO, if what we've seen so far doesn't end the season, nothing will. I think you will see more cancellations and postponements and maybe even a few individual schools cancel, but IMO the season will get finished.

And I see the B1G plans to start in the later part of Ocotber is a tacit concession that cancellation isn't very likely.
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(09-16-2020 02:11 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 10:36 AM)usffan Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
07-coffee3

As a preface, I agree 100% that the B1G screwed this up badly by jumping the gun on making a definitive statement for no reason other than to try to push their narrative and their arrogant belief that the rest of the country wouldn't just join in in lock step. Once they realized they'd drastically overplayed their hand, they've revised their approach (to one that leaves them little room for error, which further shows the stupidity of their decision).

That being said, the SEC still hasn't played a game yet. Your post is a bit like declaring victory after the first quarter. There's still a lot of time left before the season is over...

USFFan

IMO, if what we've seen so far doesn't end the season, nothing will. I think you will see more cancellations and postponements and maybe even a few individual schools cancel, but IMO the season will get finished.

And I see the B1G plans to start in the later part of Ocotber is a tacit concession that cancellation isn't very likely.

Brown University professor found 26,000 cases in 29 universities with no hospitalizations. Its just not that big a risk to the students themselves.
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(09-16-2020 02:11 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  And I see the B1G plans to start in the later part of Ocotber is a tacit concession that cancellation isn't very likely.

I see it as a marker for what’s happening around CFB at that point. Are there more cancelations? Do states press hard on gathering limits, travel considerations, etc.? That’s far enough away that if we get there in 2-3 weeks, B1G can shut it down again. If it happens not long after and during the season, eh, they got some football in.

I’m sure the Big Ten doesn’t really want to play. They’ll let time and the cooler seasons do their thing. Kudos if they can get it all in, but, I suspect they think they’ll have to cancel again.
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(09-17-2020 07:02 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I’m sure the Big Ten doesn’t really want to play. They’ll let time and the cooler seasons do their thing. Kudos if they can get it all in, but, I suspect they think they’ll have to cancel again.

I agree, if by "the B1G" you mean the voting presidents. I think many B1G constituencies do want to play.

I also think these presidents aren't relying solely on time and cooler seasons. They have created a season with no possibility of postponements, only cancellations, and with a 21-day rule for covid quarantines, it could quickly be the case that not all teams can field a team on October 24, or that mass cancellations are likely after that even if they do. This would allow the presidents to cancel the season but say "well we tried!" to the critics.
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I agree they want to say we tried, but without the extra weeks like the conferences to makeup a game this won't go well for them.
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(09-17-2020 08:52 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I agree they want to say we tried, but without the extra weeks like the conferences to makeup a game this won't go well for them.

Well it depends on what is meant by "go well". If the goal of the presidents is to still cancel the season or at least play a very small number of games, it may still go very well for them as the structure they have set up makes it likely that they will still cancel or that teams will end up missing lots of games.

If you mean for the players and teams that want to play, I'm not so sure either. I mean, I think teams like Ohio State and Michigan are fine with this "setup", with the double meaning implied, because all they want is A Chance. A chance to try and play and maybe win all their games and compete for a national title. And this is more of a chance than they had two weeks ago.
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In reversing course, it already doesn’t look good for them. They save face the less games are cancelled at this point. They’ll look even weaker if they’re made to stop because some states impose new regulations or emergency measures. They knew when they said “no” the first time that could happen.

And I can see **** hitting the fan again in the eastern three states of the conference. I would be very shocked if Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State can play all those games.
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(09-16-2020 01:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:02 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:30 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
07-coffee3

While I realize this is basically an opinion board, this is one of those decisions for which there is no "right" or "wrong" answer, either for conferences or individual schools.

Though I agree with the tenor of your remarks, I can't help but hear the voice of an Ivy educated relative who lives off of the goodness of his family because his self importance has rendered employment moot, and who can't mechanically keep any equipment, vehicles or appliances in good repair, but yet feels he has the right to tell everyone else who is providing for him how they should live, and when one of them proves him wrong he always ends the conversation with "there is no right or wrong answer for any individual". It seems to be a great dodge for responsibility and an easy out for those who want to tell everyone else how they should live when their own lives demonstrate their faulty decision making and inability to manage.

Not everyone who walks down the darkened ominous alley in the bad part of town as a shortcut is going to get jumped or worse, but those odds shouldn’t dictate why we walk down it anyway. So, why take it at all? Isn’t that the core of risk assumption and appetite?

Colleges don’t need football. They simply don’t. That isn’t Ivy League talk, it’s practically every other college and university in the country except those in D1 FBS, and even there it’s not unanimous.

It’s a concept that’s as over as a fart in church, and even I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Let the pro’s play because it’s what the NFL only does. Colleges have enough on their plates, and I don’t want to have to fund them for their mistakes.

I don't disagree, but this will be the road less traveled. Bureaucrats, and that is what many academics are, resist massive changes to the status quo. They will tweak and tweak and ignore and stall, because big money donors and the exposure they get for enrollment from televised sports is too much of their current business model and they fear the unknown more than they fear the obvious.

When I started at the UofL almost 40 years ago the message my instructors shared was “Question Authority”. Today the message from college professors seems to be “Conform Or Else”
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(09-17-2020 05:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:02 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:30 AM)ken d Wrote:  While I realize this is basically an opinion board, this is one of those decisions for which there is no "right" or "wrong" answer, either for conferences or individual schools.

Though I agree with the tenor of your remarks, I can't help but hear the voice of an Ivy educated relative who lives off of the goodness of his family because his self importance has rendered employment moot, and who can't mechanically keep any equipment, vehicles or appliances in good repair, but yet feels he has the right to tell everyone else who is providing for him how they should live, and when one of them proves him wrong he always ends the conversation with "there is no right or wrong answer for any individual". It seems to be a great dodge for responsibility and an easy out for those who want to tell everyone else how they should live when their own lives demonstrate their faulty decision making and inability to manage.

Not everyone who walks down the darkened ominous alley in the bad part of town as a shortcut is going to get jumped or worse, but those odds shouldn’t dictate why we walk down it anyway. So, why take it at all? Isn’t that the core of risk assumption and appetite?

Colleges don’t need football. They simply don’t. That isn’t Ivy League talk, it’s practically every other college and university in the country except those in D1 FBS, and even there it’s not unanimous.

It’s a concept that’s as over as a fart in church, and even I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Let the pro’s play because it’s what the NFL only does. Colleges have enough on their plates, and I don’t want to have to fund them for their mistakes.

I don't disagree, but this will be the road less traveled. Bureaucrats, and that is what many academics are, resist massive changes to the status quo. They will tweak and tweak and ignore and stall, because big money donors and the exposure they get for enrollment from televised sports is too much of their current business model and they fear the unknown more than they fear the obvious.

When I started at the UofL almost 40 years ago the message my instructors shared was “Question Authority”. Today the message from college professors seems to be “Conform Or Else”
Yes Sir! And the fist advice indicated a wide open system that wanted input and innovation. The latter says the Administration must never be questioned all we want from you is obedience.

The first advice indicated the model of what collegial means. it means a free exchange and debate of ideas. The latter shows weakness and insecurity and demands (at a university no less) that you check your brain at the door and become a willing slave to the Master of the school.

The really disgusting part is the second form calls itself "progressive." And if there was ever a signal of a sick society that is doomed to die it is the demand for obedience over free expression and command over debate.
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(09-17-2020 06:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 05:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:02 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Though I agree with the tenor of your remarks, I can't help but hear the voice of an Ivy educated relative who lives off of the goodness of his family because his self importance has rendered employment moot, and who can't mechanically keep any equipment, vehicles or appliances in good repair, but yet feels he has the right to tell everyone else who is providing for him how they should live, and when one of them proves him wrong he always ends the conversation with "there is no right or wrong answer for any individual". It seems to be a great dodge for responsibility and an easy out for those who want to tell everyone else how they should live when their own lives demonstrate their faulty decision making and inability to manage.

Not everyone who walks down the darkened ominous alley in the bad part of town as a shortcut is going to get jumped or worse, but those odds shouldn’t dictate why we walk down it anyway. So, why take it at all? Isn’t that the core of risk assumption and appetite?

Colleges don’t need football. They simply don’t. That isn’t Ivy League talk, it’s practically every other college and university in the country except those in D1 FBS, and even there it’s not unanimous.

It’s a concept that’s as over as a fart in church, and even I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Let the pro’s play because it’s what the NFL only does. Colleges have enough on their plates, and I don’t want to have to fund them for their mistakes.

I don't disagree, but this will be the road less traveled. Bureaucrats, and that is what many academics are, resist massive changes to the status quo. They will tweak and tweak and ignore and stall, because big money donors and the exposure they get for enrollment from televised sports is too much of their current business model and they fear the unknown more than they fear the obvious.

When I started at the UofL almost 40 years ago the message my instructors shared was “Question Authority”. Today the message from college professors seems to be “Conform Or Else”
Yes Sir! And the fist advice indicated a wide open system that wanted input and innovation. The latter says the Administration must never be questioned all we want from you is obedience.

The first advice indicated the model of what collegial means. it means a free exchange and debate of ideas. The latter shows weakness and insecurity and demands (at a university no less) that you check your brain at the door and become a willing slave to the Master of the school.

The really disgusting part is the second form calls itself "progressive." And if there was ever a signal of a sick society that is doomed to die it is the demand for obedience over free expression and command over debate.


"And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well, certainly, there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. "

- V for Vendetta
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(09-17-2020 10:14 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 06:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-17-2020 05:28 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:02 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Not everyone who walks down the darkened ominous alley in the bad part of town as a shortcut is going to get jumped or worse, but those odds shouldn’t dictate why we walk down it anyway. So, why take it at all? Isn’t that the core of risk assumption and appetite?

Colleges don’t need football. They simply don’t. That isn’t Ivy League talk, it’s practically every other college and university in the country except those in D1 FBS, and even there it’s not unanimous.



It’s a concept that’s as over as a fart in church, and even I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Let the pro’s play because it’s what the NFL only does. Colleges have enough on their plates, and I don’t want to have to fund them for their mistakes.

I don't disagree, but this will be the road less traveled. Bureaucrats, and that is what many academics are, resist massive changes to the status quo. They will tweak and tweak and ignore and stall, because big money donors and the exposure they get for enrollment from televised sports is too much of their current business model and they fear the unknown more than they fear the obvious.

When I started at the UofL almost 40 years ago the message my instructors shared was “Question Authority”. Today the message from college professors seems to be “Conform Or Else”
Yes Sir! And the fist advice indicated a wide open system that wanted input and innovation. The latter says the Administration must never be questioned all we want from you is obedience.

The first advice indicated the model of what collegial means. it means a free exchange and debate of ideas. The latter shows weakness and insecurity and demands (at a university no less) that you check your brain at the door and become a willing slave to the Master of the school.

The really disgusting part is the second form calls itself "progressive." And if there was ever a signal of a sick society that is doomed to die it is the demand for obedience over free expression and command over debate.


"And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well, certainly, there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. "

- V for Vendetta

An interesting movie, but not quite applicable to the University scenario which was totally taken over from within and by a relatively small cadre of academics using everything from accreditation to networking of people they've credentialed. After that it's who is acceptable, meaning conformed.

But to the greater society, V for Vendetta isn't wholly without merit. Are you feeling like Guy Fawkes? You won't be able to find the requisite materials. I recommend advanced chemistry!

What I will readily admit is that the orthodoxy of the Left and of the Right has become so extreme that together they kill freedom of thought rendering those who would attempt to hold that middle ground to no man's land where anyone who seeks to reason is massacred by fire from both sides. It's so polarized that the last place you want to be found is in the middle.

But, I know this, anytime the polarization is as complete as it has been manipulated to become, even neighbors bristling over each others campaign signs, violence is possible.

The last time I saw it this was was in '67-68 and then the potential for violence was much less because the sides weren't as evenly drawn.

To bring this back to the OP, the saving grace this time might actually be the Big 10's return to football season. Emotionally, and visibly, it made those lines much less distinct and will help get people's minds off of the other, at least a little bit. And that's a good thing.
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(09-17-2020 12:46 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoda...5793238002

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IMO, it’s of the right mindset. The conference attempts to project itself as an Ivy League-like pillar, and then it goes and does this. We all have bad days, sure, but, really...at the Big Ten, they put their pants on one leg at a time just like the rest of us. They aren’t so great. Never have been. This just helps make that more clear.

I also question if there isn’t a bubbling pot of “all or nothing” debate brewing over how one sport gets to go forward but others don’t. And the gender politics that go with that.
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(09-17-2020 12:46 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoda...5793238002

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She's talented at dropping subtle but consistent hints at her political world view. She also makes "Wahhhh!" sound less childish than usual. What a snake in the grass. She fits right in as a "journalist" in these times.

I love how she stayed way away from the ACC while crowing about the Big Ten in academics. And when talking Big Ten on the field her ACC reference is throwing shade to everyone who isn't Clemson. I wonder if Northwestern is her safety school and she couldn't get into Cuse or Duke or UVA on journalism....

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(09-16-2020 01:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 01:02 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 11:30 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 09:38 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Game. Set. Match.

The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 got it right and the B1G and Pac got it wrong.
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While I realize this is basically an opinion board, this is one of those decisions for which there is no "right" or "wrong" answer, either for conferences or individual schools.

Though I agree with the tenor of your remarks, I can't help but hear the voice of an Ivy educated relative who lives off of the goodness of his family because his self importance has rendered employment moot, and who can't mechanically keep any equipment, vehicles or appliances in good repair, but yet feels he has the right to tell everyone else who is providing for him how they should live, and when one of them proves him wrong he always ends the conversation with "there is no right or wrong answer for any individual". It seems to be a great dodge for responsibility and an easy out for those who want to tell everyone else how they should live when their own lives demonstrate their faulty decision making and inability to manage.

Not everyone who walks down the darkened ominous alley in the bad part of town as a shortcut is going to get jumped or worse, but those odds shouldn’t dictate why we walk down it anyway. So, why take it at all? Isn’t that the core of risk assumption and appetite?

Colleges don’t need football. They simply don’t. That isn’t Ivy League talk, it’s practically every other college and university in the country except those in D1 FBS, and even there it’s not unanimous.

It’s a concept that’s as over as a fart in church, and even I don’t like it, but it is what it is. Let the pro’s play because it’s what the NFL only does. Colleges have enough on their plates, and I don’t want to have to fund them for their mistakes.

I don't disagree, but this will be the road less traveled. Bureaucrats, and that is what many academics are, resist massive changes to the status quo. They will tweak and tweak and ignore and stall, because big money donors and the exposure they get for enrollment from televised sports is too much of their current business model and they fear the unknown more than they fear the obvious.

They quickly cancelled in a CYA move. Its surprising they would reverse such a move. Puts them much more at risk in a lawsuit. But maybe its more of the same. They were afraid of criticism if they played and now that everyone else is playing, they are afraid of criticism if they don't.
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