(09-13-2020 05:36 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Commercials RARELY change minds

lol. it's about influencing the undecideds.

I doubt Biden commercials with Biden quoting the Pope and saying that's straight from the Bible (actual commercial I saw today) will change any minds. Negative BS about Trump certainly won't (virtually every other commercial Biden runs). To win undecided, candidates have to sell them on how their own policies will benefit the undecided. Negative commercials are more about getting out the base for voting, IT'S September if Biden hasn't energized his base yet it ain't going to happen.

(09-13-2020 05:40 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 05:36 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Commercials RARELY change minds

lol. it's about influencing the undecideds.

I doubt Biden commercials with Biden quoting the Pope and saying that's straight from the Bible (actual commercial I saw today) will change any minds. Negative BS about Trump certainly won't (virtually every other commercial Biden runs). To win undecided, candidates have to sell them on how their own policies will benefit the undecided. Negative commercials are more about getting out the base for voting, IT'S September if Biden hasn't energized his base yet it ain't going to happen.

in theory, negative ads drive down an opponent’s favorables in order to depress turnout ...

REVERSE ENGINEERING

(09-13-2020 05:36 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Commercials RARELY change minds

lol. it's about influencing the undecideds.

https://twitter.com/KoosCarolyn/status/1...0019948546

DEEP DOO DOO

(09-13-2020 05:58 PM)green Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 05:40 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 05:36 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Commercials RARELY change minds

lol. it's about influencing the undecideds.

I doubt Biden commercials with Biden quoting the Pope and saying that's straight from the Bible (actual commercial I saw today) will change any minds. Negative BS about Trump certainly won't (virtually every other commercial Biden runs). To win undecided, candidates have to sell them on how their own policies will benefit the undecided. Negative commercials are more about getting out the base for voting, IT'S September if Biden hasn't energized his base yet it ain't going to happen.

in theory, negative ads drive down an opponent’s favorables in order to depress turnout ...

REVERSE ENGINEERING

Trump's fav/unfav is stable, short of a new provable item, saying Trump supporters are violent racists just energizes Trump's base and is blah...blah...blah to undecided. Same with all the other negative ads, Trump opposes Obamacare, Trump's failed to manage COVID19. If the MSM hadn't beat these horses to death negative might have worked. The MSM have been running negative Trump ads since November 9, 2016.

In terms of media-influence, the anti-Trump forces really have done everything humanly possible for the past 4+ years. There’s just nothing left to say or do in that regard.

Now in terms of hiring/paying people to do the ballot-harvesting, and voter-fraud activities in heavily anti-Trump precincts, yeah you probably can get something good in exchange for $100m. We’ll see.

(09-13-2020 06:04 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Trump's fav/unfav is stable, short of a new provable item, saying Trump supporters are violent racists just energizes Trump's base and is blah...blah...blah to undecided. Same with all the other negative ads, Trump opposes Obamacare, Trump's failed to manage COVID19. If the MSM hadn't beat these horses to death negative might have worked. The MSM have been running negative Trump ads since November 9, 2016.

yes ...
trump is so well-known you’re not moving his numbers save the low propensity, low information voter ...

FIXED TERM ANNUITY

(09-13-2020 06:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  In terms of media-influence, the anti-Trump forces really have done everything humanly possible for the past 4+ years. There’s just nothing left to say or do in that regard.

Now in terms of hiring/paying people to do the ballot-harvesting, and voter-fraud activities in heavily anti-Trump precincts, yeah you probably can get something good in exchange for $100m. We’ll see.

Agree, and one further, about half may be set aside for lawyers to sue individual election boards demanding contested ballots be counted. IF FL is close there could be a month of litigation.

(09-13-2020 05:40 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 05:36 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Commercials RARELY change minds

lol. it's about influencing the undecideds.

I doubt Biden commercials with Biden quoting the Pope and saying that's straight from the Bible (actual commercial I saw today) will change any minds. Negative BS about Trump certainly won't (virtually every other commercial Biden runs). To win undecided, candidates have to sell them on how their own policies will benefit the undecided. Negative commercials are more about getting out the base for voting, IT'S September if Biden hasn't energized his base yet it ain't going to happen.

Depends what the Pope said ... he's probably known to quote the Bible sometimes. Maybe Bloomberg will run ads to sell the undecideds on Biden policies. And negative Trump ads to get out the base as you say. Republicans spend money on campaigns too - are they just throwing it away?

(09-13-2020 07:13 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 05:40 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 05:36 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Commercials RARELY change minds

lol. it's about influencing the undecideds.

I doubt Biden commercials with Biden quoting the Pope and saying that's straight from the Bible (actual commercial I saw today) will change any minds. Negative BS about Trump certainly won't (virtually every other commercial Biden runs). To win undecided, candidates have to sell them on how their own policies will benefit the undecided. Negative commercials are more about getting out the base for voting, IT'S September if Biden hasn't energized his base yet it ain't going to happen.

Depends what the Pope said ... he's probably known to quote the Bible sometimes. Maybe Bloomberg will run ads to sell the undecideds on Biden policies. And negative Trump ads to get out the base as you say. Republicans spend money on campaigns too - are they just throwing it away?

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1305213783770640385

KNOCK KNOCK WHO’S THERE

(09-13-2020 05:36 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 12:47 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Commercials RARELY change minds

lol. it's about influencing the undecideds.

No its not. Its about trying to get back the democratic base in FLorida. Not only is Trump over performing 2016 among latinos, Biden is seriously underperforming in Dade county. Biden underperforming is a serious down ballot issue, because there's 5 democratic house seats in FLorida alone that would easily flip if Biden underperforms.

(09-13-2020 06:20 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 06:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  In terms of media-influence, the anti-Trump forces really have done everything humanly possible for the past 4+ years. There’s just nothing left to say or do in that regard.

Now in terms of hiring/paying people to do the ballot-harvesting, and voter-fraud activities in heavily anti-Trump precincts, yeah you probably can get something good in exchange for $100m. We’ll see.

Agree, and one further, about half may be set aside for lawyers to sue individual election boards demanding contested ballots be counted. IF FL is close there could be a month of litigation.

Biden campaign has already hired 1600 lawyers.

Mini Mike will fix everything. Lol


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See you libs at the Trump victory party

(09-13-2020 08:09 PM)450bench Wrote:  See you libs at the Trump victory party

Hmmmm. Maybe.

(09-13-2020 08:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-13-2020 08:09 PM)450bench Wrote:  See you libs at the Trump victory party

Hmmmm. Maybe.

muh $$$...I like my chances...notice how the odds have moved over time...he's back to -140 today...basically where it was in aug '19...

GameRisk / Win
2020 USA Presidential Election - Winning Party (All in)
200.00 / 250.00
[87002] Republican +125
Sport: Specials
Selection: Politics
Risk/Win: 200 / 250
Accepted: Aug 01, 2020 11:40 AM - Internet
Scheduled: Aug 03, 2020 9:00 AM
Ticket Number: 93524023
Outcome: Pending

2020 USA Presidential Election - Winning Party (All in)
300.00 / 315.00
[87002] Republican +105
Sport: Specials
Selection: Politics
Risk/Win: 300 / 315
Accepted: Jun 16, 2020 8:31 AM - Internet
Scheduled: Jun 22, 2020 9:00 AM
Ticket Number: 92497466
Outcome: Pending

Odds To Win - 2020 Presidential Election
450.00 / 300.00
[86596] Donald Trump -150
Sport: Specials
Selection: Politics
Risk/Win: 450 / 300
Accepted: Aug 11, 2019 5:26 PM - Internet
Scheduled: Aug 12, 2019 8:00 AM
Ticket Number: 76323394
Outcome: Pending

#notScared