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(08-19-2020 01:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  
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(08-19-2020 12:28 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 10:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  It is very difficult to respond to this thread with a nonpolitical answer. 03-pissed


Some things in this world are very clear, aren't they?
XLance, so what's your stance on UNC sending students home? I'm confused about a lot of things with this virus. If the virus is not so harmful to younger adults, why close the campus?

Our Governor isn't as stupid as some Governors and Mayors that transferred sick people into environments where they could infect other populations. We are treating sick people where they are and where there is excellent health care available.

Our Governor:
  • Is that stupid
  • Lectures the general population as if WE are that stupid
  • Probably put intense pressure on a new RU president to not play/not have sports this fall
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UNC is protecting the old men who clean the grounds, the old women who clean the dorms, and the old people who run the advising programs, and serve a support staff to the various schools. You can't protect the students because they are too young and stupid to "protect". Fortunately they are less likely to have serious complications. However they will get sick, just like the drink too much, drive drunk, have unprotected sex, take drugs, and jump off buildings.
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(08-19-2020 01:23 PM)megadrone Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 01:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 12:32 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 12:28 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 10:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  It is very difficult to respond to this thread with a nonpolitical answer. 03-pissed


Some things in this world are very clear, aren't they?
XLance, so what's your stance on UNC sending students home? I'm confused about a lot of things with this virus. If the virus is not so harmful to younger adults, why close the campus?

Our Governor isn't as stupid as some Governors and Mayors that transferred sick people into environments where they could infect other populations. We are treating sick people where they are and where there is excellent health care available.

Our Governor:
  • Is that stupid
  • Lectures the general population as if WE are that stupid
  • Probably put intense pressure on a new RU president to not play/not have sports this fall

I have four of your people who vacated NJ and they live across the street. They are stupid. If they are an average example of what is to be found between Imslay and Princeton, then yes, your governor is lecturing the stupid.
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(08-19-2020 01:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 12:32 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 12:28 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 10:35 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  It is very difficult to respond to this thread with a nonpolitical answer. 03-pissed

Some things in this world are very clear, aren't they?
XLance, so what's your stance on UNC sending students home? I'm confused about a lot of things with this virus. If the virus is not so harmful to younger adults, why close the campus?

Our Governor isn't as stupid as some Governors and Mayors that transferred sick people into environments where they could infect other populations. We are treating sick people where they are and where there is excellent health care available.
Ok, my bad on saying "home". I obviously misunderstood what was taking place there. By the way, it was an honest question, just trying to get a feel for what other parts of the country are doing.
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It's not going to go anywhere, it's just an attempt by OSU and others to save face on the recruiting trail and in the PR department.
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(08-19-2020 01:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  It's not going to go anywhere, it's just an attempt by OSU and others to save face on the recruiting trail and in the PR department.
Or it could be a genuine attempt by Ohio State to play since their President wanted a season to start around Sept. 26 - Oct. 3rd. But hey, a guy in South Carolina obviously knows more about what's going on up here in this dirty "rust belt" state than we do.
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(08-19-2020 02:07 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 01:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  It's not going to go anywhere, it's just an attempt by OSU and others to save face on the recruiting trail and in the PR department.
Or it could be a genuine attempt by Ohio State to play since their President wanted a season to start around Sept. 26 - Oct. 3rd. But hey, a guy in South Carolina obviously knows more about what's going on up here in this dirty "rust belt" state than we do.

03-lmfao Yeah, OK.

If Ohio State really was insistent on playing football this fall Ohio State would be playing this fall. They wouldn't have allowed the schools where football isn't as important to push them around like that. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
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(08-19-2020 02:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 02:07 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 01:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  It's not going to go anywhere, it's just an attempt by OSU and others to save face on the recruiting trail and in the PR department.
Or it could be a genuine attempt by Ohio State to play since their President wanted a season to start around Sept. 26 - Oct. 3rd. But hey, a guy in South Carolina obviously knows more about what's going on up here in this dirty "rust belt" state than we do.

03-lmfao Yeah, OK.

If Ohio State really was insistent on playing football this fall Ohio State would be playing this fall. They wouldn't have allowed the schools where football isn't as important to push them around like that. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

I actually agree with you here in the sense that, at least superficially, Ohio State seems to be playing both sides right now and that if they truly strongly wanted to play football, then the Big Ten's decision (at least in the interim) may have been different.

Separately (and nothing to do with you), I'd prefer articles that aren't from Clay Travis, Tim Brando and/or the Daily Caller when it comes to claims of what is happening in the Big Ten. Teddy Greenstein and Ralph Russo can be trusted and don't pass off rumors as news.
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(08-19-2020 02:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 02:07 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 01:35 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  It's not going to go anywhere, it's just an attempt by OSU and others to save face on the recruiting trail and in the PR department.
Or it could be a genuine attempt by Ohio State to play since their President wanted a season to start around Sept. 26 - Oct. 3rd. But hey, a guy in South Carolina obviously knows more about what's going on up here in this dirty "rust belt" state than we do.

03-lmfao Yeah, OK.

If Ohio State really was insistent on playing football this fall Ohio State would be playing this fall. They wouldn't have allowed the schools where football isn't as important to push them around like that. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
It's been a crazy year, expect anything. They're not letting anybody push them around, that's why things are in motion.
At Ohio State, there are 100,000,000 reasons they are saying to the Big 10, f**k you.

A pandemic caused a separation within the thinking of this conference along with ridiculous leadership. There are some schools up here that are telling others to, you do your thing and we'll do ours. It's that simple, and as I said in a thread some 3 months ago, contracts right now are worth as much as the paper they are written on.

Has the Big 10 made a fool of itself as a whole? Hell yes.

Will college football be played here or anywhere else this year/fall? I hope so.

A conference agreeing on rules, formulas, divisions, membership etc...is one thing. A conference agreeing on decisions that can cost a university millions of dollars in revenue is another. Don't expect an utter agreement in a conference as diverse as the Big 10 on a topic of this magnitude.
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(08-19-2020 07:11 AM)solohawks Wrote:  


That is a rumor, and you should take it as a grain of salt.
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(08-19-2020 03:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 07:11 AM)solohawks Wrote:  


That is a rumor, and you should take it as a grain of salt.

And you are not a doctor........
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Well Big 10 Commissioner Warren sent a letter to all schools today saying there would be no reconsideration of play for Big 10 schools, no season this year, period.

He took some questions, didn't answer any and then read a script that encouraged all players to get out and vote.

I think that sums up his remarks.
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Don't mind me, I'll just be here holding my breath, waiting for Desmond Howard, Michael Wilbon, Nicole Auerbach, and Pat Forde to crap all over Ohio State, and in Forde's case, Ohio itself.

(08-19-2020 10:38 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Is this an accurate review of where schools stood/stand?

Schools That Wanted to Cancel:
Illinois
Northwestern
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Schools That Were on the Fence:
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Penn State
Purdue

Schools That Wanted to Play:
Iowa
Nebraska
Ohio State
The media here's saying that Michigan State was one of the schools pushing hardest not to play.
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(08-19-2020 06:41 PM)Mav Wrote:  Don't mind me, I'll just be here holding my breath, waiting for Desmond Howard, Michael Wilbon, Nicole Auerbach, and Pat Forde to crap all over Ohio State, and in Forde's case, Ohio itself.

(08-19-2020 10:38 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Is this an accurate review of where schools stood/stand?

Schools That Wanted to Cancel:
Illinois
Northwestern
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Schools That Were on the Fence:
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Penn State
Purdue

Schools That Wanted to Play:
Iowa
Nebraska
Ohio State
The media here's saying that Michigan State was one of the schools pushing hardest not to play.
Michigan State
Minnesota
Rutgers
As I said before, they are a cancer now to this conference.

Sounds like the discussion has moved to a winter season rather than spring. So that's the reward for the push back from Ohio State, Nebraska and Iowa? Please Mr. Warren, you're a joke!
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(08-19-2020 06:44 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 06:41 PM)Mav Wrote:  Don't mind me, I'll just be here holding my breath, waiting for Desmond Howard, Michael Wilbon, Nicole Auerbach, and Pat Forde to crap all over Ohio State, and in Forde's case, Ohio itself.

(08-19-2020 10:38 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Is this an accurate review of where schools stood/stand?

Schools That Wanted to Cancel:
Illinois
Northwestern
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Schools That Were on the Fence:
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Penn State
Purdue

Schools That Wanted to Play:
Iowa
Nebraska
Ohio State
The media here's saying that Michigan State was one of the schools pushing hardest not to play.
Michigan State
Minnesota
Rutgers
As I said before, they are a cancer now to this conference.

Sounds like the discussion has moved to a winter season rather than spring. So that's the reward for the push back from Ohio State, Nebraska and Iowa? Please Mr. Warren, you're a joke!
...and yes, the way UNL has been treated is BS!
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(08-19-2020 11:51 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 11:13 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 09:54 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Big 10 thought others would cave. They didn't now they must backtrack

Am I living on entirely different planet? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question - from the comments that I've seen from many quarters, I apparently *am* living on a different planet.)

UNC and Notre Dame (decidedly not Big Ten schools) just went to all-remote instruction after having students on-campus for barely a week. In only a week, UNC went from a 3% positivity rate to an insanely high 14% positivity rate for testing. Is anyone delusional enough to think that they're going to be the only ones? How do schools shutting their entire campuses down point to *more* support for playing football over the coming weeks (outside of preserving revenue over public health)?

These parents that are frothing at the mouth for their kids to play would also be the first ones in line to sue these schools in the event that any of them developed a heart condition or other side effect from getting COVID-19. Why on Earth would I listen to them if I was running a university?

My main disappointment as a Big Ten alum is the exposure of how many deluded Big Ten fans exist out there. I still firmly believe that this will end up being a non-debate within the next few weeks - we can't be emptying out UNC and Notre Dame within a week of students being on-campus and simultaneously think that any conference is going to be playing football this fall (much less the crazy notion of the Big Ten backtracking on its decision).

If people want to criticize the Big Ten for its lack of communication, then that's fair. I actually agree on that point. However, considering where UNC and Notre Dame are right now as the canaries in the coal mine for students on-campus this fall, I'm failing to see how anyone sees the public health evidence that support that the conferences and schools that have postponed football are going to backtrack. In all likelihood, it's going to be the exact opposite where we're not going to see any football games this fall anywhere.

That’s because you went to Illinois. If you lived in Ohio, PA, Michigan, Iowa or Nebraska, you’d realize football is a way of life for those people.
To a lot of Nebraska fans, it isn't even about football anymore.
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There is no way Michigan is going to play with Michigan State sitting on the sidelines....... ain't happening........
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(08-19-2020 03:49 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 03:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-19-2020 07:11 AM)solohawks Wrote:  


That is a rumor, and you should take it as a grain of salt.

And you are not a doctor........


Or a writer ......
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(08-19-2020 07:17 PM)otown Wrote:  There is no way Michigan is going to play with Michigan State sitting on the sidelines....... ain't happening........

Michigan is going back to the classroom in Ann Arbor, Michigan State just sent every student home 5 days after collecting tuition and room/ board payments and told off-campus residents..... “you’re on your own.”
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