(08-20-2020 09:27 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 08:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 08:34 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 08:26 AM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 06:09 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  C’mon, that’s hyperbole. It’s going to be a bunch of scared, gun toting white folks.

They don't look that scared to me.

I don't see what the colour of their skin has to do with anything?

But maybe my perspective is flawed (?). Would you respond differently if they had been non 'white'?

Weird - if they were not scared of the protesters in the street, on their way to the mayor's house, why did they come out of their house holding guns? They just felt like pointing them at people? If so, that's even more concerning than them being scared that the crowd could turn violent...

The color of their skin was noted for two reasons - they brandished the guns as BLM protestors walked by who were predominantly black (and not violent in this instance per videos) and they're being asked to speak at the RNC for some reason (and the RNC is a rather racially homogeneous group still).

If you bothered to read of the incident, the 'protestors' knocked through an iron gate to move into their yard.

I dont give a flying fk if a group is black, brown, mixed or purple. If they literally feel the need to break through an iron gate to get into my house, there is enough of an issue there for self-defense. Except, I guess, in lad world where the urgent need is to *only* state the fact that the mob that broke down the was 'predominantly black' and the people that had the temerity to defend were white.

I thought at one point you *werent* a typical identity politics kneejerk type --- perhaps I was mistaken.

So now we have lad as the 'Feds should never defend their property from the mobs', and now 'lets mock a couple for having the temerity to defend themselves from a mob that broke through an iron gate to get into their yard'. That is quite the record you are piling up on your respect of the ability of oneself to defend themselves from mob action.

That is, unless the mob is white nationalists, then you seemingly blame *everyone* in the mob for the actions of even the one.

The gate that protestors walked through (photos show it wasn’t broken) was the entry way to the neighborhood. These people live on a private street that the mayor lives on...

Do we have reports of other people on the street pointing guns at the protestors?

So what does the word "private" mean to you and what does it mean to the protesters, all over this country?

Looks a lot nicer than the Baltimore neighborhoods.

(08-20-2020 09:27 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 08:40 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 08:34 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 08:26 AM)MerseyOwl Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 06:09 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  C’mon, that’s hyperbole. It’s going to be a bunch of scared, gun toting white folks.

They don't look that scared to me.

I don't see what the colour of their skin has to do with anything?

But maybe my perspective is flawed (?). Would you respond differently if they had been non 'white'?

Weird - if they were not scared of the protesters in the street, on their way to the mayor's house, why did they come out of their house holding guns? They just felt like pointing them at people? If so, that's even more concerning than them being scared that the crowd could turn violent...

The color of their skin was noted for two reasons - they brandished the guns as BLM protestors walked by who were predominantly black (and not violent in this instance per videos) and they're being asked to speak at the RNC for some reason (and the RNC is a rather racially homogeneous group still).

If you bothered to read of the incident, the 'protestors' knocked through an iron gate to move into their yard.

I dont give a flying fk if a group is black, brown, mixed or purple. If they literally feel the need to break through an iron gate to get into my house, there is enough of an issue there for self-defense. Except, I guess, in lad world where the urgent need is to *only* state the fact that the mob that broke down the was 'predominantly black' and the people that had the temerity to defend were white.

I thought at one point you *werent* a typical identity politics kneejerk type --- perhaps I was mistaken.

So now we have lad as the 'Feds should never defend their property from the mobs', and now 'lets mock a couple for having the temerity to defend themselves from a mob that broke through an iron gate to get into their yard'. That is quite the record you are piling up on your respect of the ability of oneself to defend themselves from mob action.

That is, unless the mob is white nationalists, then you seemingly blame *everyone* in the mob for the actions of even the one.

The gate that protestors walked through (photos show it wasn’t broken) was the entry way to the neighborhood. These people live on a private street that the mayor lives on...

Do we have reports of other people on the street pointing guns at the protestors?

And photos and videos susbsequent show it torn off its hinges. Further, the mob was filmed and photographed not just on the private street, but on the McCloskeys property in large amounts.

Funny, the term 'private' in 'private property' seems to have evolved into a 'blip noise' there.

Not only that, the ostensible reason from people in the mob was that they wanted to protest at the mayor's house --- somewhat not aware that the mayor's house was not accessible from the private property that they stormed.

Once again, if I have 40 or 50 white crackers dressed in pink polos carrying the typical 'primarily peaceful' messages that are not terribly uncommon, and coming not only onto a private road that abuts my property but onto my property en masse, and when I tell them to get the fk off my property and the response is 'we will come back for you', you are damn straight my rifle is coming out.

But you got your knickers in a wad when the feds had the temerity to defend their buildings, and you got your knickers in a wad when Tom Cotton had the temerity to call for the National Guard when the Minnesota Governor stood down for 5 days while Minneapolis was rendered and actual police stations were burned, so I absolutely do see the foundations of umbrage on your part when the McCloskeys have the absolute gall to defend their property, and based on what the media has reported was said by members of the mob, I can understand as reasonable why the McCloskeys pulled down.

I dont think I would have any hesitation in that, whether the mob was BLM black thugs, or any racial composition. You come onto my property in that manner and do that stuff, I have nothing but support for the actions of the McCloskeys.

But again, noting the shrill umbrage you have generated previously on Senator Cotton's remarks on stopping actual rioting *and* on the fed's actions in actually protecting courthouses, I am not surprised at your stance.

GOP should have a contrasting style next week:

Quote:Washington (CNN)Pre-recorded speeches and a few paper streamers? Not on his watch.
President Donald Trump, a television producer at heart, is hoping for a convention next week that looks vastly different from the all-digital event Democrats have staged over the past days -- including an emphasis on live programming and at least some type of audience who can respond to the multiple appearances he is planning.

Calling aides at all hours from Air Force One or the White House residence, Trump has conveyed last-minute ideas on venues or gimmicks and demanded progress reports on the speakers he wants during his nominating extravaganza, which he hopes will provide a boost to his poll numbers.

Early drafts of his nomination acceptance speech closely resemble two previous addresses that delved heavily in the divisive culture wars that Trump has aggressively stoked: his first convention speech in 2016, where he declared "I alone can fix" the country's ailments, and his July 4 address at Mount Rushmore, which seized upon recent racial strife to hammer a "law and order" message.

Even amid a national pandemic that has severely limited Republicans' ability to party, the convention ordered up by the President next week will still contain moments that are designed both to surprise viewers and trigger outrage from Trump's opponents -- both defining features of Trump's political style.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/...index.html

Convention ended tonight with a strong speech by Biden.

Showing off the empathy that we seem to have a national crisis with:

And JLD brought some humor.

Quote:Comedian Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the emcee for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention, concluded a segment on Joe Biden's faith by quipping: "Just remember, Joe Biden goes to church so regularly that he doesn't even need tear gas and a bunch of federalized troops to get there."

(08-20-2020 10:45 PM)At Ease Wrote:  Convention ended tonight with a strong speech by Biden.

And JLD brought some humor.

Quote:Comedian Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the emcee for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention, concluded a segment on Joe Biden's faith by quipping: "Just remember, Joe Biden goes to church so regularly that he doesn't even need tear gas and a bunch of federalized troops to get there."

If she's suggesting Biden is in good standing with his 'faith' that is funny. Julia should have prefaced her quip with "Catholics turn away now."

(08-20-2020 10:45 PM)At Ease Wrote:  And JLD brought some humor.

Quote:Comedian Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the emcee for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention, concluded a segment on Joe Biden's faith by quipping: "Just remember, Joe Biden goes to church so regularly that he doesn't even need tear gas and a bunch of federalized troops to get there."

I am certainly glad that at least one person at the convention mentioned the continued violence in the streets from the left, although only in an oblique manner.

Even better than the Democrat Senators whom questioned railed at AG Barr about and refused to let him answer any question posed to him two weeks ago could not, even when prompted by Barr to renounce the street violence.

(08-21-2020 08:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 10:45 PM)At Ease Wrote:  And JLD brought some humor.

Quote:Comedian Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the emcee for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention, concluded a segment on Joe Biden's faith by quipping: "Just remember, Joe Biden goes to church so regularly that he doesn't even need tear gas and a bunch of federalized troops to get there."

I am certainly glad that at least one person at the convention mentioned the continued violence in the streets from the left, although only in an oblique manner.

The Democrats are not monolithic on this. The attitudes on this range from "IT'S JUST FINE" (reparations and justified rage) to "WHAT VIOLENCE?" (it is right wing saboteurs undermining peaceful protests).

The guy kicked in the head in Portland might see it differently.

On Tuesday, the Demos finished their convention night with a neat rendition of the old Buffalo Springfield song "Something's Happening Here". The rendition was by Billy Porter, who I think is quite talented and did quite a good job in the performance.

But, an enterprising conservative media site did a wonderful presentation of using the entire performance as an uninterrupted backdrop and editing in an amazing set of videos alongside the performance.