(08-21-2020 01:02 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 04:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first
stone!
John 8:7 NLT

In light of the latest victim of cancel culture Thom Brennan, I want to ask that when did it become ok for us as a society to banish someone for even the slightest indiscretion?

I dont really know Brennan other than he is an announcer, but as a human being its exhausting, disheartening, and frankly frightening that your whole life can be ruined by an innocent mistake, an off color joke, or even something that is wrong but doesn't deserve the death penalty.

Jesus didn't justify or condone the actions of the woman in this story but he certainly didn't give her a death sentence over it. He forgave her and told her to change, to "sin no more"

When did we as a culture lose this as part of our fabric ?

Firing someone and stoning them to death aren't the same thing

That said, Media like many industries is driven by 'customers'. If 'whatever an employee did', even if it were 100% legal drives customers away, that CAN (but doesn't have to) contribute to a case for firing, up to the point of being immediately actionable... i.e. an executive of an aggressive animal rights group going hunting.

My problem with cancel culture is that it doesn't depend merely on people doing things that ACTUALLY drive away business... but on actions by others intended to also drive away business, like blockading a drive through... which can make people simply decide that it's not worth it. They are therefore NOT declining to frequent that store because of what was said, but because they simply didn't want to go through the hassle. Social media has made this an almost certainty... where if nothing else, people may be subject to online ridicule and even death threats because people can take a picture of them entering the store and others can doxx them by cross referencing it through facebook or whatever.... and let's be honest, lots of people seem to have lots of time to try and make themselves feel better by sometimes perhaps literally irl attacking people they don't know, nor have any reason to care, often over situations where they also don't know enough to draw conclusions.

They have metaphorically stoned his career

He said something dumb and wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to cause a problem or make a statement. Its exhausting that a simple mistake and error in judgement as such grave consequences

(08-21-2020 06:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-21-2020 01:02 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 04:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first
stone!
John 8:7 NLT

In light of the latest victim of cancel culture Thom Brennan, I want to ask that when did it become ok for us as a society to banish someone for even the slightest indiscretion?

I dont really know Brennan other than he is an announcer, but as a human being its exhausting, disheartening, and frankly frightening that your whole life can be ruined by an innocent mistake, an off color joke, or even something that is wrong but doesn't deserve the death penalty.

Jesus didn't justify or condone the actions of the woman in this story but he certainly didn't give her a death sentence over it. He forgave her and told her to change, to "sin no more"

When did we as a culture lose this as part of our fabric ?

Firing someone and stoning them to death aren't the same thing

That said, Media like many industries is driven by 'customers'. If 'whatever an employee did', even if it were 100% legal drives customers away, that CAN (but doesn't have to) contribute to a case for firing, up to the point of being immediately actionable... i.e. an executive of an aggressive animal rights group going hunting.

My problem with cancel culture is that it doesn't depend merely on people doing things that ACTUALLY drive away business... but on actions by others intended to also drive away business, like blockading a drive through... which can make people simply decide that it's not worth it. They are therefore NOT declining to frequent that store because of what was said, but because they simply didn't want to go through the hassle. Social media has made this an almost certainty... where if nothing else, people may be subject to online ridicule and even death threats because people can take a picture of them entering the store and others can doxx them by cross referencing it through facebook or whatever.... and let's be honest, lots of people seem to have lots of time to try and make themselves feel better by sometimes perhaps literally irl attacking people they don't know, nor have any reason to care, often over situations where they also don't know enough to draw conclusions.

They have metaphorically stoned his career

He said something dumb and wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to cause a problem or make a statement. Its exhausting that a simple mistake and error in judgement as such grave consequences

And maybe he is somewhat bigoted. Well everyone is bigoted about something. Hardly a (white) Democrat that isn't bigoted against fundamentalist Christians, including many "woke" Christians.

(08-21-2020 09:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-21-2020 06:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-21-2020 01:02 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 04:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first
stone!
John 8:7 NLT

In light of the latest victim of cancel culture Thom Brennan, I want to ask that when did it become ok for us as a society to banish someone for even the slightest indiscretion?

I dont really know Brennan other than he is an announcer, but as a human being its exhausting, disheartening, and frankly frightening that your whole life can be ruined by an innocent mistake, an off color joke, or even something that is wrong but doesn't deserve the death penalty.

Jesus didn't justify or condone the actions of the woman in this story but he certainly didn't give her a death sentence over it. He forgave her and told her to change, to "sin no more"

When did we as a culture lose this as part of our fabric ?

Firing someone and stoning them to death aren't the same thing

That said, Media like many industries is driven by 'customers'. If 'whatever an employee did', even if it were 100% legal drives customers away, that CAN (but doesn't have to) contribute to a case for firing, up to the point of being immediately actionable... i.e. an executive of an aggressive animal rights group going hunting.

My problem with cancel culture is that it doesn't depend merely on people doing things that ACTUALLY drive away business... but on actions by others intended to also drive away business, like blockading a drive through... which can make people simply decide that it's not worth it. They are therefore NOT declining to frequent that store because of what was said, but because they simply didn't want to go through the hassle. Social media has made this an almost certainty... where if nothing else, people may be subject to online ridicule and even death threats because people can take a picture of them entering the store and others can doxx them by cross referencing it through facebook or whatever.... and let's be honest, lots of people seem to have lots of time to try and make themselves feel better by sometimes perhaps literally irl attacking people they don't know, nor have any reason to care, often over situations where they also don't know enough to draw conclusions.

They have metaphorically stoned his career

He said something dumb and wrong. He wasn't intentionally trying to cause a problem or make a statement. Its exhausting that a simple mistake and error in judgement as such grave consequences

And maybe he is somewhat bigoted. Well everyone is bigoted about something. Hardly a (white) Democrat that isn't bigoted against fundamentalist Christians, including many "woke" Christians.

Apparently he was quoting a line from Blazing Saddles as a private joke. They were playing Kansas City, after all.

The dude has had an impeccable career. Never got in an ounce of trouble over 3 or 4 decades of work. No way should that all just be tossed aside because he accidentally quoted a movie on air.