(08-19-2020 11:48 AM)Bluecoug Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:44 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The individual AAC schools can schedule BYU or not. But no short-term conference deals --- none.

Yep, I agree with this.

There's a thread on the BYU board regarding scheduling AAC teams. A poster said that they should agree to a temporary one year AAC membership ... another countered with a two-year temporary membership. BYU fans have no idea.

https://www.cougarboard.com/board/messag...d=24256573

(08-19-2020 11:55 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:48 AM)Bluecoug Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:44 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  The individual AAC schools can schedule BYU or not. But no short-term conference deals --- none.

Yep, I agree with this.

There's a thread on the BYU board regarding scheduling AAC teams. A poster said that they should agree to a temporary one year AAC membership ... another countered with a two-year temporary membership. BYU fans have no idea.

https://www.cougarboard.com/board/messag...d=24256573

Agreed, BYU either needs to be in the AAC for FB only or just continue to schedule games. The AAC isn't going to do temporary membership.

(08-19-2020 11:54 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:23 AM)CaliWG Wrote:  Rumor is that BYU will be adding 4-6 AAC teams to the schedule. Should be announced in the next week or so. Predictions (based on availability):

vs Cincinnati: Sep 12 or Oct 10
vs Temple: Oct 3 or 10
at ECU: Oct 24
vs USF: Oct 31
at UCF: Nov 7
at Memphis Nov 21

The result of those games could go a long way to building a narrative. If BYU is really above the AAC, then they need to go 5-1 with a few blowouts in there.

i would say that, for the most part, those should be tough games for BYU - they'd be pulling more off the top of the AAC than not

(08-19-2020 11:54 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:23 AM)CaliWG Wrote:  Rumor is that BYU will be adding 4-6 AAC teams to the schedule. Should be announced in the next week or so. Predictions (based on availability):

vs Cincinnati: Sep 12 or Oct 10
vs Temple: Oct 3 or 10
at ECU: Oct 24
vs USF: Oct 31
at UCF: Nov 7
at Memphis Nov 21

The result of those games could go a long way to building a narrative. If BYU is really above the AAC, then they need to go 5-1 with a few blowouts in there.

With road games at both UCF & Memphis, a 6-2 record overall vs the AAC teams (Navy & Houston are already scheduled) would be a really good outcome. 5-3 would be okay and 4-4 would be disappointing. Cincinnati, UCF & Memphis are all expected to be better than BYU this season. The status of a program isn't defined by its team in a given year.

(08-19-2020 12:10 PM)dave108 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:54 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:23 AM)CaliWG Wrote:  Rumor is that BYU will be adding 4-6 AAC teams to the schedule. Should be announced in the next week or so. Predictions (based on availability):

vs Cincinnati: Sep 12 or Oct 10
vs Temple: Oct 3 or 10
at ECU: Oct 24
vs USF: Oct 31
at UCF: Nov 7
at Memphis Nov 21

The result of those games could go a long way to building a narrative. If BYU is really above the AAC, then they need to go 5-1 with a few blowouts in there.

i would say that, for the most part, those should be tough games for BYU - they'd be pulling more off the top of the AAC than not

Don't forget that BYU plays Navy on September 7 and Houston on October 16. That would be an 8-game AAC schedule, if the above games were added.

I would be happy with 5-3. That means taking care of business at home and beating who we should beat.

7-1 would be special - top-20 team - with two road wins among Navy, UCF and Memphis.

(08-19-2020 12:19 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:10 PM)dave108 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:54 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:23 AM)CaliWG Wrote:  Rumor is that BYU will be adding 4-6 AAC teams to the schedule. Should be announced in the next week or so. Predictions (based on availability):

vs Cincinnati: Sep 12 or Oct 10
vs Temple: Oct 3 or 10
at ECU: Oct 24
vs USF: Oct 31
at UCF: Nov 7
at Memphis Nov 21

The result of those games could go a long way to building a narrative. If BYU is really above the AAC, then they need to go 5-1 with a few blowouts in there.

i would say that, for the most part, those should be tough games for BYU - they'd be pulling more off the top of the AAC than not

Don't forget that BYU plays Navy on September 7 and Houston on October 16. That would be an 8-game AAC schedule, if the above games were added.

I would be happy with 5-3. That means taking care of business at home and beating who we should beat.

7-1 would be special - top-20 team - with two road wins among Navy, UCF and Memphis.

If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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While I like the BYU and Boise State expansion, the concept of travel partners is non-existent in a football-only membership.

Travel partners are used for Olympic sports that play two games within a single road trip. For instance, where BYU and Boise State were both to travel to Florida to play both UCF and USF in women's basketball on alternating nights. And, vice-versa, where UCF and USF were to travel to Idaho and Utah to play Boise State and BYU on alternating nights. It allows for scheduling that maximizing travel cost efficiency.

Georgia State has great geography relevant to the AAC footprint, but that doesn't seem to be the primary consideration in expansion. I don't see much else other than untapped potential.

(08-19-2020 12:37 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:19 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:10 PM)dave108 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:54 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:23 AM)CaliWG Wrote:  Rumor is that BYU will be adding 4-6 AAC teams to the schedule. Should be announced in the next week or so. Predictions (based on availability):

vs Cincinnati: Sep 12 or Oct 10
vs Temple: Oct 3 or 10
at ECU: Oct 24
vs USF: Oct 31
at UCF: Nov 7
at Memphis Nov 21

The result of those games could go a long way to building a narrative. If BYU is really above the AAC, then they need to go 5-1 with a few blowouts in there.

i would say that, for the most part, those should be tough games for BYU - they'd be pulling more off the top of the AAC than not

Don't forget that BYU plays Navy on September 7 and Houston on October 16. That would be an 8-game AAC schedule, if the above games were added.

I would be happy with 5-3. That means taking care of business at home and beating who we should beat.

7-1 would be special - top-20 team - with two road wins among Navy, UCF and Memphis.

Yes, sir! I would be happy for BYU to beat Cincinnati, Temple, Houston, and USF in Provo and ECU in Greenville! Redemption!

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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Please allow me to fix this for you.

If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St
BYU
SDSU

Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Houston, Navy, SDSU, SMU, Tulsa

East: Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, Temple, Tulane, UCF, USF

(08-19-2020 01:25 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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While I like the BYU and Boise State expansion, the concept of travel partners is non-existent in a football-only membership.

Travel partners are used for Olympic sports that play two games within a single road trip. For instance, where BYU and Boise State were both to travel to Florida to play both UCF and USF in women's basketball on alternating nights. And, vice-versa, where UCF and USF were to travel to Idaho and Utah to play Boise State and BYU on alternating nights. It allows for scheduling that maximizing travel cost efficiency.

Georgia State has great geography relevant to the AAC footprint, but that doesn't seem to be the primary consideration in expansion. I don't see much else other than untapped potential.

You are correct. Travel partners is the wrong term here, more importantly is a local regional rival they can play annually (I suppose this could be done OOC, but in-conference is that much sweeter). Simply it would be nice to not be on an island, but if we stopped at 12 with BYU only that would be fine too. With that said if BYU ever were to accept I think they would be more apt to come with at least one other western partner. Boise makes too much sense (especially after their recent drama with the MWC over their new TV contract).

I think you are selling Georgia St short here. Yes, they are the new kid on the block and haven't done a whole lot, but I don't think we are adding teams in mountain or Pacific timezone as all-sports members. This is a central/eastern based league (travel considerations for Olympics don't really allow to go much larger than what we have), losing all-sports member UConn and replacing with all-sports member Georgia St shrinks the footprint while bringing in a large market (TV and recruiting) in the middle of that market. I would've said UAB (and they would still be on my short list), but for reasons many have stated Georgia St has a much higher ceiling. Georgia St has breakout potential but even if they could get to current Temple levels they would be very good for this conference. Personally I find it a good thing to address the gaping hole that exists in the middle of UCF/USF, Memphis/Cincy, and ECU. This is a very large area that needs to be better joined, Georgia St in Atlanta does just that.

The only way I might not consider them is if we did 3 football-only (think BYU, Boise, SDSU) and 3 non-football (think VCU, Dayton, SLU).

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(08-19-2020 01:26 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:37 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:19 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:10 PM)dave108 Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 11:54 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  The result of those games could go a long way to building a narrative. If BYU is really above the AAC, then they need to go 5-1 with a few blowouts in there.

i would say that, for the most part, those should be tough games for BYU - they'd be pulling more off the top of the AAC than not

Don't forget that BYU plays Navy on September 7 and Houston on October 16. That would be an 8-game AAC schedule, if the above games were added.

I would be happy with 5-3. That means taking care of business at home and beating who we should beat.

7-1 would be special - top-20 team - with two road wins among Navy, UCF and Memphis.

Yes, sir! I would be happy for BYU to beat Cincinnati, Temple, Houston, and USF in Provo and ECU in Greenville! Redemption!

Lets assume these games will be added, that'd make BYU's games vs AAC teams:

at Navy Sept 7
vs Cincinnati: Sep 12 or Oct 10
vs Temple: Oct 3 or 10
vs Houston Oct 16
at ECU: Oct 24
vs USF: Oct 31
at UCF: Nov 7
at Memphis Nov 21

If I'm making the lines for Vegas I'm going 4-4. A few toss ups in there that could go either way for BYU to go 6-2 or 2-6. This is why BYU would be a great fit in the AAC!

My projection for that slate of games is BYU loses to Navy, Cinci, UCF, Memphis; wins against ECU, Houston; USF & Temple are toss ups.

(08-19-2020 01:31 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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Please allow me to fix this for you.

If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St
BYU
SDSU

Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Houston, Navy, SDSU, SMU, Tulsa

East: Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, Temple, Tulane, UCF, USF

I'm good with this two, as long as the three out west are conference only. Can offset them with VCU, Dayton, and SLU.

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(08-19-2020 01:47 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:26 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:37 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:19 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 12:10 PM)dave108 Wrote:  i would say that, for the most part, those should be tough games for BYU - they'd be pulling more off the top of the AAC than not

Don't forget that BYU plays Navy on September 7 and Houston on October 16. That would be an 8-game AAC schedule, if the above games were added.

I would be happy with 5-3. That means taking care of business at home and beating who we should beat.

7-1 would be special - top-20 team - with two road wins among Navy, UCF and Memphis.

Yes, sir! I would be happy for BYU to beat Cincinnati, Temple, Houston, and USF in Provo and ECU in Greenville! Redemption!

Lets assume these games will be added, that'd make BYU's games vs AAC teams:

at Navy Sept 7
vs Cincinnati: Sep 12 or Oct 10
vs Temple: Oct 3 or 10
vs Houston Oct 16
at ECU: Oct 24
vs USF: Oct 31
at UCF: Nov 7
at Memphis Nov 21

If I'm making the lines for Vegas I'm going 4-4. A few toss ups in there that could go either way for BYU to go 6-2 or 2-6. This is why BYU would be a great fit in the AAC!

My projection for that slate of games is BYU loses to Navy, Cinci, UCF, Memphis; wins against ECU, Houston; USF & Temple are toss ups.

That's really cool if it happens. A real trial run "full" AAC schedule. 8 conference games against teams in what was the east and west divisions. Will be interesting what BYU fans end up thinking. Sadly they won't get the full AAC effect especially at the better teams' venues (packed houses with good atmospheres), but at least they get a good competitive comparison on the field about how they could fair in any given yr in the AAC.

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(08-19-2020 01:31 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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Please allow me to fix this for you.

If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St
BYU
SDSU

Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Houston, Navy, SDSU, SMU, Tulsa

East: Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, Temple, Tulane, UCF, USF

Yes, thank you. These are the only 3 teams that make sense to me (maybe the service academies, but Id rather spare our players from having their knees blown out every week..). IMO, with the position the AAC is in, the conference should be trying to get the best G5 teams to get as close to the P5 as possible and really distance itself from the G5. Maybe I'm wrong, but expanding just to capture new markets like Atlanta or Vegas won't help as much as really solidifying ourselves as the clear 6th (maybe even 5th) best conference.

BYU and SDSU can even help out with basketball. Not sure if that'd be too much travel though

(08-19-2020 01:40 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:25 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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While I like the BYU and Boise State expansion, the concept of travel partners is non-existent in a football-only membership.

Travel partners are used for Olympic sports that play two games within a single road trip. For instance, where BYU and Boise State were both to travel to Florida to play both UCF and USF in women's basketball on alternating nights. And, vice-versa, where UCF and USF were to travel to Idaho and Utah to play Boise State and BYU on alternating nights. It allows for scheduling that maximizing travel cost efficiency.

Georgia State has great geography relevant to the AAC footprint, but that doesn't seem to be the primary consideration in expansion. I don't see much else other than untapped potential.

You are correct. Travel partners is the wrong term here, more importantly is a local regional rival they can play annually (I suppose this could be done OOC, but in-conference is that much sweeter). Simply it would be nice to not be on an island, but if we stopped at 12 with BYU only that would be fine too. With that said if BYU ever were to accept I think they would be more apt to come with at least one other western partner. Boise makes too much sense (especially after their recent drama with the MWC over their new TV contract).

I think you are selling Georgia St short here. Yes, they are the new kid on the block and haven't done a whole lot, but I don't think we are adding teams in mountain or Pacific timezone as all-sports members. This is a central/eastern based league (travel considerations for Olympics don't really allow to go much larger than what we have), losing all-sports member UConn and replacing with all-sports member Georgia St shrinks the footprint while bringing in a large market (TV and recruiting) in the middle of that market. I would've said UAB (and they would still be on my short list), but for reasons many have stated Georgia St has a much higher ceiling. Georgia St has breakout potential but even if they could get to current Temple levels they would be very good for this conference. Personally I find it a good thing to address the gaping hole that exists in the middle of UCF/USF, Memphis/Cincy, and ECU. This is a very large area that needs to be better joined, Georgia St in Atlanta does just that.

The only way I might not consider them is if we did 3 football-only (think BYU, Boise, SDSU) and 3 non-football (think VCU, Dayton, SLU).

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Why does everyone want to keep adding mouths to feed when the TV contract is already set into what 2030+ or something like that at 7 million a piece. There is only room for 1 all sports member to replace UConn under the current contract or a FB only plus maybe an Olympic addition with the FB only newbie.

(08-19-2020 01:31 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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Please allow me to fix this for you.

If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St
BYU
SDSU

Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Houston, Navy, SDSU, SMU, Tulsa

East: Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, Temple, Tulane, UCF, USF

I don't like divisions, especially in a G5 conference that needs to maximize Tier 1 games for broadcast purposes. Each team should have 1 or 2 regional rivals that they play annually, and then the rest should all be SOS based. Then the Top 2 teams play in the Championship Game. If the AAC ever wants a shot at a CFP bid, Boise can't skip playing UCF because its forced to play a divisional game against Tulane or Tulsa. And we haven't even touched on the TV money impact. If TV partners knew that they were going to get all of the best teams playing each other every year in addition to a new time slot (adding BYU, Boise & SDSU is huge here) and a virtual guarantee that the NY6 bid would be coming from the AAC, the TV value of the conference skyrockets. Probably in the range of $10-15M/yr per team with that much quality inventory.

(08-19-2020 01:59 PM)CaliWG Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:31 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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Please allow me to fix this for you.

If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St
BYU
SDSU

Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Houston, Navy, SDSU, SMU, Tulsa

East: Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, Temple, Tulane, UCF, USF

I don't like divisions, especially in a G5 conference that needs to maximize Tier 1 games for broadcast purposes. Each team should have 1 or 2 regional rivals that they play annually, and then the rest should all be SOS based. Then the Top 2 teams play in the Championship Game. If the AAC ever wants a shot at a CFP bid, Boise can't skip playing UCF because its forced to play a divisional game against Tulane or Tulsa. And we haven't even touched on the TV money impact. If TV partners knew that they were going to get all of the best teams playing each other every year in addition to a new time slot (adding BYU, Boise & SDSU is huge here) and a virtual guarantee that the NY6 bid would be coming from the AAC, the TV value of the conference skyrockets. Probably in the range of $10-15M/yr per team with that much quality inventory.

Completely agree with this. The AAC doesn't have the blue bloods or branding of the P5 unfortunately, so we really need to take advantage of marquee conference match ups to draw viewers. I guess the only concern is having all your best teams play each other which could produce a 2 loss champ but if you added BYU, Boise, and SDSU, there's almost no way the winner of that conference wouldn't get the NY6 bowl, even if they had, say, 2 losses.

(08-19-2020 01:54 PM)Lurkercat Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:31 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 01:06 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St (football only)
BYU (football only)
Georgia St (all-sports)

My reasoning here is that BYU and Boise would be travel partners and the big brands to bring extra eyeballs to the conference. BYU and Boise already have a bidding rivalry and would make it so neither is on an island (travel partners). As for Georgia St, their potential is too great to ignore (very large student body, in their own unique stadium which continues to evolve, smack dab in the middle of the largest city/metro in the southeast). Geographically they are the perfect fit in the middle of the existing footprint. Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane

East: Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, ECU, Georgia St, UCF, USF

Note: If you wanted to add additional Olympic only members then VCU and Dayton/SLU could be great adds for #13 and #14.


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If we want to get to 14 and can get Boise and BYU on board I think the following might be the best...

Boise St
BYU
SDSU

Divisions could be as follows...

West: Boise St, BYU, Houston, Navy, SDSU, SMU, Tulsa

East: Cincinnati, ECU, Memphis, Temple, Tulane, UCF, USF

Yes, thank you. These are the only 3 teams that make sense to me (maybe the service academies, but Id rather spare our players from having their knees blown out every week..). IMO, with the position the AAC is in, the conference should be trying to get the best G5 teams to get as close to the P5 as possible and really distance itself from the G5. Maybe I'm wrong, but expanding just to capture new markets like Atlanta or Vegas won't help as much as really solidifying ourselves as the clear 6th (maybe even 5th) best conference.

BYU and SDSU can even help out with basketball. Not sure if that'd be too much travel though

I would think distancing from the G4 includes several factors (best teams, best brands, and TV viewership/markets). Why not accomplish both?

With that said, if we aren't able to attract any western teams that we've been mentioning, then we are right back to adding an eastern all sport member (GSU, UAB, ODU, etc.) or possibly a football only like App St, plus VCU (olympic). Guess we could stand pat at 11 as well (seems to be missing on opportunity to increase value though).

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