(08-19-2020 09:32 AM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  Nick Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ootball-jv

Well of course Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile. His team and conference are moving Heaven and Earth to play a fall season. Of course he would want to undermine a spring season, of course he would want to frame every argument to the benefits of a fall season against the disadvantages for the spring, and not visa-versa. I would bet that if Bama and the SEC had cancelled the season and moved to the spring, Saban would be extolling the very many benefits of a spring season

I would not rate Saban as too much of an objective commentator on this subject.

(08-19-2020 09:32 AM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  Nick Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ootball-jv

It is not for his level the upper upper crust of P5. He coaches in the NFL Jr division so a large percentage of his team will not have any interest in playing when the NFL looms. For those doing something closer to college athletics where the players are less likely to be moving on it makes a little more sense. You'll still have some leave but the upper P5 will have vastly different teams from Fall to Spring I would guess.

(08-19-2020 09:55 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:32 AM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  Nick Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ootball-jv

Well of course Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile. His team and conference are moving Heaven and Earth to play a fall season. Of course he would want to undermine a spring season, of course he would want to frame every argument to the benefits of a fall season against the disadvantages for the spring, and not visa-versa. I would bet that if Bama and the SEC had cancelled the season and moved to the spring, Saban would be extolling the very many benefits of a spring season

I would not rate Saban as too much of an objective commentator on this subject.

Just as we shouldn’t rate you as to much objective commentator as you are hoping for a spring season for us as we have thrown in the towel? Was just posting his opinion, not assessing his agenda.

Just as we shouldn’t rate you as to much objective commentator as you are hoping for a spring season for us as we have thrown in the towel?

my head is spinning!

I thought Saban's actual statements/quotes were somewhat reasonable given his team's players and their situation. It didn't seem to me he was strongly pursuing an agenda. The article itself may be putting a little spin on things, media tends to do this.

(08-19-2020 05:05 PM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:55 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:32 AM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  Nick Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ootball-jv

Well of course Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile. His team and conference are moving Heaven and Earth to play a fall season. Of course he would want to undermine a spring season, of course he would want to frame every argument to the benefits of a fall season against the disadvantages for the spring, and not visa-versa. I would bet that if Bama and the SEC had cancelled the season and moved to the spring, Saban would be extolling the very many benefits of a spring season

I would not rate Saban as too much of an objective commentator on this subject.

Just as we shouldn’t rate you as to much objective commentator as you are hoping for a spring season for us as we have thrown in the towel? Was just posting his opinion, not assessing his agenda.

Wow...Talk about having some thin skin and some massive insecurity issues. Didn't say you were assessing his agenda...Where did I ever address you directly in the post to say you were assessing his agenda???

It's a message board. You make a post, and it's anyone on the message boards right to make a comment on the post. I decided to assess Saban's agenda based on the post you made---as did others who made a post off your post. Again, that's how a message board works

Your above analogy is not valid. Obviously I hope that JMU has a Spring season, since that is JMU's ONLY remaining option to have a season, since they have already cancelled their 2020 season.
And since I started the thread, RE: Does anyone think there will be college Football in the spring of 2021?---and it's a question---I'd say I'm fairly objective, since the fact that I started the thread as a question means, I was soliciting the opinion of others.


Bama has not yet cancelled their 2020 fall season, so that makes Saban, a less than objective commentator. Saban is trying to undermine the validity of a Spring season in order to justify going full steam ahead with a fall season. And as doubleduke2016 says, because of the level at which Saban coaches, it's in his interest to play in the fall rather than the spring, because a spring season could see him lose multiple impact players, causing him to be coaching at an extreme handicap.

(08-19-2020 06:01 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:05 PM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:55 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:32 AM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  Nick Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ootball-jv

Well of course Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile. His team and conference are moving Heaven and Earth to play a fall season. Of course he would want to undermine a spring season, of course he would want to frame every argument to the benefits of a fall season against the disadvantages for the spring, and not visa-versa. I would bet that if Bama and the SEC had cancelled the season and moved to the spring, Saban would be extolling the very many benefits of a spring season

I would not rate Saban as too much of an objective commentator on this subject.

Just as we shouldn’t rate you as to much objective commentator as you are hoping for a spring season for us as we have thrown in the towel? Was just posting his opinion, not assessing his agenda.

Bama has not yet cancelled their 2020 fall season, so that makes Saban, a less than objective commentator. Saban is trying to undermine the validity of a Spring season in order to justify going full steam ahead with a fall season. And as doubleduke2016 says, because of the level at which Saban coaches, it's in his interest to play in the fall rather than the spring, because a spring season could see him lose multiple impact players, causing him to be coaching at an extreme handicap.

More like he won't have a built in advantage and actually be required to, ya know, coach. This is something he should worry about as he has proven that he's not such a genius when the talent level isn't stacked in his favor.

(08-19-2020 06:53 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 06:01 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:05 PM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:55 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:32 AM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  Nick Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ootball-jv

Well of course Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile. His team and conference are moving Heaven and Earth to play a fall season. Of course he would want to undermine a spring season, of course he would want to frame every argument to the benefits of a fall season against the disadvantages for the spring, and not visa-versa. I would bet that if Bama and the SEC had cancelled the season and moved to the spring, Saban would be extolling the very many benefits of a spring season

I would not rate Saban as too much of an objective commentator on this subject.

Just as we shouldn’t rate you as to much objective commentator as you are hoping for a spring season for us as we have thrown in the towel? Was just posting his opinion, not assessing his agenda.

Bama has not yet cancelled their 2020 fall season, so that makes Saban, a less than objective commentator. Saban is trying to undermine the validity of a Spring season in order to justify going full steam ahead with a fall season. And as doubleduke2016 says, because of the level at which Saban coaches, it's in his interest to play in the fall rather than the spring, because a spring season could see him lose multiple impact players, causing him to be coaching at an extreme handicap.

More like he won't have a built in advantage and actually be required to, ya know, coach. This is something he should worry about as he has proven that he's not such a genius when the talent level isn't stacked in his favor.

What will be interesting is the scholarship issues if everyone retains a year of eligibility. How is next years incoming class plus the current class handled, with a lack of revenue on top of that.

(08-19-2020 07:07 PM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 06:53 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 06:01 PM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 05:05 PM)arlingtonduke Wrote:  

(08-19-2020 09:55 AM)DukeThaDawg Wrote:  Well of course Saban doesn't think Spring Football is worthwhile. His team and conference are moving Heaven and Earth to play a fall season. Of course he would want to undermine a spring season, of course he would want to frame every argument to the benefits of a fall season against the disadvantages for the spring, and not visa-versa. I would bet that if Bama and the SEC had cancelled the season and moved to the spring, Saban would be extolling the very many benefits of a spring season

I would not rate Saban as too much of an objective commentator on this subject.

Just as we shouldn’t rate you as to much objective commentator as you are hoping for a spring season for us as we have thrown in the towel? Was just posting his opinion, not assessing his agenda.

Bama has not yet cancelled their 2020 fall season, so that makes Saban, a less than objective commentator. Saban is trying to undermine the validity of a Spring season in order to justify going full steam ahead with a fall season. And as doubleduke2016 says, because of the level at which Saban coaches, it's in his interest to play in the fall rather than the spring, because a spring season could see him lose multiple impact players, causing him to be coaching at an extreme handicap.

More like he won't have a built in advantage and actually be required to, ya know, coach. This is something he should worry about as he has proven that he's not such a genius when the talent level isn't stacked in his favor.

What will be interesting is the scholarship issues if everyone retains a year of eligibility. How is next years incoming class plus the current class handled, with a lack of revenue on top of that.

@PeteThamel
Sources: The NCAA Division I Council decided today that fall sport student-athletes can compete in any amount of competitions this year and it will not count as a season of eligibility. This still needs to be approved by NCAA Board of Governors on Friday.
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/12...0220727298

Does this mean everyone is getting a "free" season? It sounds like the players get a 2 for1. Will they increase scholarship limits? This is gonna create a logjam. How are schools supposed to pay for all the extra scholarships? Will players essentially be "cut"

NCAA close to providing free year of eligibility for fall sport athletes affected by pandemic, including football

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-close-to-p...36546.html

From Article:
-Fall sport athletes would essentially be given a free year of eligibility should the Board of Governors approve the proposal as expected on Friday.

-Now they will likely have six years to play five seasons of eligibility. Seniors who use the additional year of eligibility won’t count against team financial aid limits for 2021-22.

It looks like all players will get an extra year. And the seniors won't count against the scholarship limit. But that still doesn't address the roster logjam that will be created, (seemingly to only last one year) or the fact that the Universities will still have to fund an extra year of scholarships. I'm sure the attrition process will work out the extra logjam's and the extra year of scholarships.

12-hour schedule approved for football teams not playing in fall
The move applies to both FBS and FCS programs who are planning to compete in the spring and is effective Aug. 24 through Oct. 4. Each week will have two required days off.