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I've seen a lot of posts on here from the past few days. Some are thinking the MAC is doing this solely for financial reasons. Some are thinking the MAC will never recover. There are a group of players and coaches that still want to play, across the entire country.

The MAC's decision was not solely based on financial reasons. Sure, it plays a part, but the Presidents were in a bad spot. Many colleges across the country are planning solely, or mostly online classes this fall. How can they defend a decision to play fall sports when they are saying it is not safe to have students in the classroom? Also, if they let fall sports go on and cases spike, a small percentage of young student-athletes die (even 1 is too many) because of COVID-19.........they will be blamed for letting sports continue.

This was a decision they had to make, and like I've been saying for a couple of months now, there will not be a college football fall season. The Power 5 conferences will follow suit. We already know that the Big Ten will announce either today or tomorrow that they voted to cancel fall sports. The Big Ten's decision is not based on financial anymore than the MAC's decision.

Some people think it's safe for them to play. Some people don't think it is safe for them to play. The President's of the various University's have to make the ultimate decision, and they have to live with the consequences if student-athletes, trainers, coaches, officials die from COVID-19 because of moving forward with a seaaon.

Whether we like it or not, this was inevitable and it will be all conferences that will cancel fall sports.

Could this hurt the MAC more than the Big Ten or SEC? Sure. Could it hurt the sport of football altogether? Sure could. At the youth level there are a lot of concerns about the sport surviving. The sport was already under attack because of CTE/concussions, etc. and now many youth leagues are cancelling the season. Meanwhile, baseball leagues are conducting fall baseball seasons and trying to turn kids into baseball players instead. This will further hurt the number of kids playing youth football when the sport returns.....and the numbers have already dropped significantly over the last 5-7 years.

We have no idea when things will get back to normal. Right now they are saying the vaccines being worked on might only be 60-70% effective and only about 50% of the population want to take a vaccine. That is around a 30-35% rate of protection across communities. That's not enough for herd immunity. They will still need to require face masks and social distancing until a more effective vaccine can be ready and/or more than 50% of the population are willing to take the vaccine.

I know some people don't think this virus is as serious as the media makes it out to be. Some even think it is just a ploy to win an election. But I'm telling you this virus is real. There is no rhyme or reason to 100% detail of who gets hit harder with it. I've seen very healthy people that thought they had strong immune systems get his with this virus and two months later they still can't workout, etc. because they get so tired so quickly. I know people that have died from this virus. And one more thing to remember about college football, I think it is safe to say that more than 50% of the college football athletes are African-American, and for whatever reason African-American's are more susceptible to this disease, especially worse effects from this disease. I know someone that was very fit and healthy, African-American in their 20's, and they were on a ventilator it was so bad. They are doing better now, but still have a lot of issues that are dragging on.

This virus is real and it doesn't care who you are or how healthy you are, or what political party you like.
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Hi Brian - this is Ned.

WELL SAID

I hope you are doing well. I follow you through media. You seem to be thriving. That’s great.

Go Rockets!
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(08-10-2020 04:49 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  Hi Brian - this is Ned.

WELL SAID

I hope you are doing well. I follow you through media. You seem to be thriving. That’s great.

Go Rockets!

Hi Ned, good to hear from you. How are you doing? I am doing well.

It's been a challenging time with COVID-19, outside of worrying about the family and all, with being the President of a youth football organization. Youth football gets hurt the worse, because we do not have the funds to do testing all the time, face shields on helmets, etc. like college and the NFL can do.
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I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.
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(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

Not if you look solely at the trends and forecasts based on science and discussed by major national infectious disease experts and agencies like at John Hopkins (while ignoring what the media and politicians, plus social media may be telling you)
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(08-12-2020 12:26 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

Not if you look solely at the trends and forecasts based on science and discussed by major national infectious disease experts and agencies like at John Hopkins (while ignoring what the media and politicians, plus social media may be telling you)

You mean like 3.21% US Covid Mortality Rate #50 in the World, with the 4th most tests per million pop. 202,106. Statista.com.
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(08-12-2020 03:00 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 12:26 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

Not if you look solely at the trends and forecasts based on science and discussed by major national infectious disease experts and agencies like at John Hopkins (while ignoring what the media and politicians, plus social media may be telling you)

You mean like 3.21% US Covid Mortality Rate #50 in the World, with the 4th most tests per million pop. 202,106. Statista.com.

10th, and climbing, in deaths per million people. It is good that we're testing a lot, but I would put more stock into deaths per 1M than a fluid mortality %.
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More than 97,000 U.S. children tested positive for the coronavirus in the last two weeks of July, more than a quarter of the total number of children diagnosed nationwide since March, according to data from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.
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(08-12-2020 08:29 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  More than 97,000 U.S. children tested positive for the coronavirus in the last two weeks of July, more than a quarter of the total number of children diagnosed nationwide since March, according to data from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.

How are they handling it? What effects is it having on their near and long term health?
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(08-12-2020 08:29 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  More than 97,000 U.S. children tested positive for the coronavirus in the last two weeks of July, more than a quarter of the total number of children diagnosed nationwide since March, according to data from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.

Hospitalization rate for children .008%.
Average stay 2.5 days.
About 1/3 admitted to the ICU.
42% with underlying conditions of obesity, chronic lung disease, or prematurity.
Hospitalization lower for school age children .006%.
Highest risk for hospitalization under 2 yrs. .025 %
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(08-12-2020 09:19 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:29 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  More than 97,000 U.S. children tested positive for the coronavirus in the last two weeks of July, more than a quarter of the total number of children diagnosed nationwide since March, according to data from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.

Hospitalization rate for children .008%.
Average stay 2.5 days.
About 1/3 admitted to the ICU.
42% with underlying conditions of obesity, chronic lung disease, or prematurity.
Hospitalization lower for school age children .006%.
Highest risk for hospitalization under 2 yrs. .025 %

true, most kids get over the virus quickly. some do get very sick and more are catching it lately, which is a concern. the other is that they can spread it easily to their siblings and parents and other family members who are more statistically likely to have a hard time with the virus. in places where kids live in big houses and have good health care and parents and caregivers attentive to the public health emergency. corona in kids is not that dangerous. in places where 8 or 10 people live in a 2 bedroom apartment, or that kid and their parents don't have access to good health care, corona in kids can contribute to outbreaks that cause a lot of suffering and stress or overwhelm the medical, social, and economic system.
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(08-13-2020 04:23 AM)pono Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 09:19 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:29 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  More than 97,000 U.S. children tested positive for the coronavirus in the last two weeks of July, more than a quarter of the total number of children diagnosed nationwide since March, according to data from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.

Hospitalization rate for children .008%.
Average stay 2.5 days.
About 1/3 admitted to the ICU.
42% with underlying conditions of obesity, chronic lung disease, or prematurity.
Hospitalization lower for school age children .006%.
Highest risk for hospitalization under 2 yrs. .025 %

true, most kids get over the virus quickly. some do get very sick and more are catching it lately, which is a concern. the other is that they can spread it easily to their siblings and parents and other family members who are more statistically likely to have a hard time with the virus. in places where kids live in big houses and have good health care and parents and caregivers attentive to the public health emergency. corona in kids is not that dangerous. in places where 8 or 10 people live in a 2 bedroom apartment, or that kid and their parents don't have access to good health care, corona in kids can contribute to outbreaks that cause a lot of suffering and stress or overwhelm the medical, social, and economic system.

Definitely borne out by higher risk in children of color. Transmission is predominantly by parent to child. Grandchild has been in daycare since May.
So far so good with all the kids and staff at the daycare. Covid19 protocols are closely being followed.
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It should be noted that all these statistics are not born under SOP. We've been distanced, masked and quarantined. Children too. Not even fatality rates can be predicted using stats obtained under these conditions. Anecdotal exposure and consistent exposure could result in different path-ways. I know I trust the people with the microscopes and the system recommending safety more than those dogged by memories of what was.

I also know if decisions are made on high to f-it, let's try our luck, I'll be out trying my luck, lol. Well, maybe I'll wait a few weeks, see what happen to the more brave/foolish THEN try my luck.
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(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

I guarantee you that the election does not matter. This will still be going on after November 3rd, no matter who wins the election. I guarantee it. Anyone thinking this is all an election ploy is blinded by politics.
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"We've been distanced, masked and quarantined."

Those have not been consistent sustained activities every where in the country, yet CFB exists in every state and every major city, and teams, staff and players travel to other communities for games. There remain today great variations from state to state, with regions and betwen cities in terms of COVOD-19 cases and spread.

I think the conferences that have decided now to not play are doing so in part because of finances but also looking to avoid end up playing a season of a few games before having to cancel, which is what it seems the SEC and others are going to attempt.
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(08-13-2020 08:03 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

I guarantee you that the election does not matter. This will still be going on after November 3rd, no matter who wins the election. I guarantee it. Anyone thinking this is all an election ploy is blinded by politics.

Amen.
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(08-13-2020 10:31 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 08:03 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

I guarantee you that the election does not matter. This will still be going on after November 3rd, no matter who wins the election. I guarantee it. Anyone thinking this is all an election ploy is blinded by politics.

Amen.

Except a number of the vaccines are already in Phase3, each day more is known about the virus,
the Stock Market has recovered much of its losses,
Unemployment claims have just dropped under 1 million for the first time since March. Yes the Covid19
and damage it has done will still be around after the election, but it's already greatly improved since 4-5 months ago.
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(08-13-2020 11:06 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 10:31 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 08:03 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

I guarantee you that the election does not matter. This will still be going on after November 3rd, no matter who wins the election. I guarantee it. Anyone thinking this is all an election ploy is blinded by politics.

Amen.

Except a number of the vaccines are already in Phase3, each day more is known about the virus,
the Stock Market has recovered much of its losses,
Unemployment claims have just dropped under 1 million for the first time since March. Yes the Covid19
and damage it has done will still be around after the election, but it's already greatly improved since 4-5 months ago.

I some aspects the situation is improving, but still have plenty of hotspots across the US and we will not know for a month or so the impact of millions of kids back in K12 and college. Yes seems like much progress on a vaccine but still several months away from possible ready but will also take a massive distribution effort to be in place. In many respects one hopes we are in much better place in 3-5 months, but to get to that point many challenges remain.
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(08-13-2020 11:06 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 10:31 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 08:03 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

I guarantee you that the election does not matter. This will still be going on after November 3rd, no matter who wins the election. I guarantee it. Anyone thinking this is all an election ploy is blinded by politics.

Amen.

Except a number of the vaccines are already in Phase3, each day more is known about the virus,
the Stock Market has recovered much of its losses,
Unemployment claims have just dropped under 1 million for the first time since March. Yes the Covid19
and damage it has done will still be around after the election, but it's already greatly improved since 4-5 months ago.

You are correct about some improvement.

However, the vaccines are a complete unknown at this point as to the impact. Let's say a vaccine is 75% effective and polling shows that about 50% of the population does not want to try the vaccine right out of the gate. We are looking at somewhere around 35-38% protection.....nowhere near what is needed for herd immunity. So, face masks and social distancing will still be a way of life until first the vaccines are closer to 95% effective and 2nd more than half of the population is willing to take the vaccine.

As for unemployment claims, that is a sign that layoffs are slowing down but not a sign that people are going back to work. This is going to take much longer than November to fix.

23 states have paused or reversed their business re-openings. That is nearly half of the country. The hopeful sign is that the rate of new COVID-19 cases has declined in the last couple of weeks. But again, this is going to take time.

The point is that there is no magic button or anything that the day after the election this all goes away and everything reopens. It's sad, but some people really believe this is a ploy by the media and one of our country's political parties to sway the election and that magically everything will be back to normal on November 4th.

And as for back to normal.......there will be a new normal. We will not be going back to what things were like in January of 2020. There will always be a new normal, when we get to that normal state. A lot of companies are going to be changing the way they do business, and so on.
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(08-13-2020 02:14 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 11:06 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 10:31 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(08-13-2020 08:03 AM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 08:22 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  I suspect shortly after the election we will all be leaving our basements and get back to our normal lives.

I guarantee you that the election does not matter. This will still be going on after November 3rd, no matter who wins the election. I guarantee it. Anyone thinking this is all an election ploy is blinded by politics.

Amen.

Except a number of the vaccines are already in Phase3, each day more is known about the virus,
the Stock Market has recovered much of its losses,
Unemployment claims have just dropped under 1 million for the first time since March. Yes the Covid19
and damage it has done will still be around after the election, but it's already greatly improved since 4-5 months ago.

You are correct about some improvement.

However, the vaccines are a complete unknown at this point as to the impact. Let's say a vaccine is 75% effective and polling shows that about 50% of the population does not want to try the vaccine right out of the gate. We are looking at somewhere around 35-38% protection.....nowhere near what is needed for herd immunity. So, face masks and social distancing will still be a way of life until first the vaccines are closer to 95% effective and 2nd more than half of the population is willing to take the vaccine.

As for unemployment claims, that is a sign that layoffs are slowing down but not a sign that people are going back to work. This is going to take much longer than November to fix.

23 states have paused or reversed their business re-openings. That is nearly half of the country. The hopeful sign is that the rate of new COVID-19 cases has declined in the last couple of weeks. But again, this is going to take time.

The point is that there is no magic button or anything that the day after the election this all goes away and everything reopens. It's sad, but some people really believe this is a ploy by the media and one of our country's political parties to sway the election and that magically everything will be back to normal on November 4th.

And as for back to normal.......there will be a new normal. We will not be going back to what things were like in January of 2020. There will always be a new normal, when we get to that normal state. A lot of companies are going to be changing the way they do business, and so on.

It was said that the herd immunity threshold would
be lowered to 43% based on the model where younger people would become infected and transmit
the virus without deadly consequences to each other.
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