(08-14-2020 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 11:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  El Paso is Mountain Time Zone. I know, my brother's wife is from El Paso. That western part of Texas along the Rio Grande is very Hispanic. Amazingly San Diego is almost exactly the same distance as Houston, closer than Dallas. It's the very western tip of Texas. But it is Texas.

FWIW, Dallas is about 100 miles closer to El Paso than is San Diego (or Houston).

Yes, El Paso is definitely Texas, but OTOH, it is West Texas, the Texas of John Wayne movies, tumbleweeds, craggy canyons and mountains, desert and high plains etc. It is "Southwestern" in a way that Houston is not.

Ironically, what Quo described is what people who never have been to Texas think the rest of the state looks like. I thought Dallas looked like Phoenix before the family moved here from California in the mid 90’s. I was disappointed there were no mountains and the humidity is bad most of the time.

El Paso is to the west of Santa Fe and Denver.

It’s closer to three state capitals than Austin.

The nearest P5 school is the University of Arizona in Tucson.

Phoenix is the closest pro sports market.

When announcers say before the end of a game “coming up next (insert tv show or movie) except in the West Coast”.......the El Paso channels don’t get that show or movie.

It that doesn’t scream Western, I don’t know what what will.

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...1158524932

Western Kentucky will visit BYU on Oct. 31, sources told @Stadium

Is this considered staying "west"?


This game is now official and is a 1 game event--no return game.
https://byucougars.com/story/football/12...l-schedule

These two are now official. The release hints that future games may still be announced.

https://byucougars.com/story/football/12...l-schedule

The Cougars will host the University of Texas at San Antonio from Conference USA on Oct. 10 and Texas State University of the Sun Belt Conference on Oct. 24 at LaVell Edwards Stadium. BYU will be facing the Roadrunners and Bobcats for the first time.

Rumors on the BYU fan board say a game at UCF is coming soon.

(08-20-2020 07:47 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 11:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  El Paso is Mountain Time Zone. I know, my brother's wife is from El Paso. That western part of Texas along the Rio Grande is very Hispanic. Amazingly San Diego is almost exactly the same distance as Houston, closer than Dallas. It's the very western tip of Texas. But it is Texas.

FWIW, Dallas is about 100 miles closer to El Paso than is San Diego (or Houston).

Yes, El Paso is definitely Texas, but OTOH, it is West Texas, the Texas of John Wayne movies, tumbleweeds, craggy canyons and mountains, desert and high plains etc. It is "Southwestern" in a way that Houston is not.

Ironically, what Quo described is what people who never have been to Texas think the rest of the state looks like. I thought Dallas looked like Phoenix before the family moved here from California in the mid 90’s. I was disappointed there were no mountains and the humidity is bad most of the time.

Yes, because it's West Texas that has been made famous in western movies. Eastern Texas - the part that includes Dallas and Houston, is very different, much more like the rest of the South - humid, pine trees, bayous (down by Houston), etc.

If you are traveling the I-10 route through south-central Texas, San Antonio is a good divider - go some distance east of San Antonio and Texas looks a lot like Louisiana. Scrub trees, pines, bayous. But just west of San Antonio, and you enter the Texas of Clint Eastwood movies, and El Paso is several hundred miles deep in that territory. It is purely Southwestern, in the sense of Arizona and New Mexico, etc.

Of course, it's really a bit more complicated than that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmIqRcglvE

(08-27-2020 08:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 07:47 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 11:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  El Paso is Mountain Time Zone. I know, my brother's wife is from El Paso. That western part of Texas along the Rio Grande is very Hispanic. Amazingly San Diego is almost exactly the same distance as Houston, closer than Dallas. It's the very western tip of Texas. But it is Texas.

FWIW, Dallas is about 100 miles closer to El Paso than is San Diego (or Houston).

Yes, El Paso is definitely Texas, but OTOH, it is West Texas, the Texas of John Wayne movies, tumbleweeds, craggy canyons and mountains, desert and high plains etc. It is "Southwestern" in a way that Houston is not.

Ironically, what Quo described is what people who never have been to Texas think the rest of the state looks like. I thought Dallas looked like Phoenix before the family moved here from California in the mid 90’s. I was disappointed there were no mountains and the humidity is bad most of the time.

Yes, because it's West Texas that has been made famous in western movies. Eastern Texas - the part that includes Dallas and Houston, is very different, much more like the rest of the South - humid, pine trees, bayous (down by Houston), etc.

If you are traveling the I-10 route through south-central Texas, San Antonio is a good divider - go some distance east of San Antonio and Texas looks a lot like Louisiana. Scrub trees, pines, bayous. But just west of San Antonio, and you enter the Texas of Clint Eastwood movies, and El Paso is several hundred miles deep in that territory. It is purely Southwestern, in the sense of Arizona and New Mexico, etc.

Of course, it's really a bit more complicated than that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmIqRcglvE

Wonder what/where the longest stretch of US highway there is without a gas station.

Nowhere beats Nothing, Arizona for being not much there in the middle of nowhere.

Only know about it because I found it on a map if you take the turn on 93 South after Kingman, to get to the cutoff at road 96 for Bagdad (huge mine where my son worked for a summer as an IT intern ... they paid well)

(08-27-2020 08:39 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-20-2020 07:47 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 11:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  El Paso is Mountain Time Zone. I know, my brother's wife is from El Paso. That western part of Texas along the Rio Grande is very Hispanic. Amazingly San Diego is almost exactly the same distance as Houston, closer than Dallas. It's the very western tip of Texas. But it is Texas.

FWIW, Dallas is about 100 miles closer to El Paso than is San Diego (or Houston).

Yes, El Paso is definitely Texas, but OTOH, it is West Texas, the Texas of John Wayne movies, tumbleweeds, craggy canyons and mountains, desert and high plains etc. It is "Southwestern" in a way that Houston is not.

Ironically, what Quo described is what people who never have been to Texas think the rest of the state looks like. I thought Dallas looked like Phoenix before the family moved here from California in the mid 90’s. I was disappointed there were no mountains and the humidity is bad most of the time.

Yes, because it's West Texas that has been made famous in western movies. Eastern Texas - the part that includes Dallas and Houston, is very different, much more like the rest of the South - humid, pine trees, bayous (down by Houston), etc.

If you are traveling the I-10 route through south-central Texas, San Antonio is a good divider - go some distance east of San Antonio and Texas looks a lot like Louisiana. Scrub trees, pines, bayous. But just west of San Antonio, and you enter the Texas of Clint Eastwood movies, and El Paso is several hundred miles deep in that territory. It is purely Southwestern, in the sense of Arizona and New Mexico, etc.

Of course, it's really a bit more complicated than that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmIqRcglvE

100% correct Quo. San Antonio is the dividing line between "East" and "West" in the US, IMO. East of San Antonio the trees get bigger and things are humid, and the land is flat like the South East. Just west of San Antionio (and actually in the city limits of northern and western San Antonio), the land gets hillier and rougher. In fact just west of San Antonio there are small mountains (OK maybe big hills) that are pretty impressive for this area. If you've ever been around Leakey or Medina, or Kerrville, you know what I am talking about. Even on the north side of San Antonio up 281 the terrain is pretty impressive, and looks "western".

Interesting update from AD Tom Holmoe today on the possibility of adding more to the 8 games (6 home, 2 road) that are currently on the schedule:

https://twitter.com/TomHolmoe/status/130...5728499712

Quote:Could add games as season progresses. Some of the conferences have left dates open at end of the season in order [for] the possibility of make up games from those postponed. Some teams MIGHT chose to play a non-conference game with us that their opponent [chooses] not to make up.

(08-26-2020 07:27 PM)f1do Wrote:  These two are now official. The release hints that future games may still be announced.

https://byucougars.com/story/football/12...l-schedule

The Cougars will host the University of Texas at San Antonio from Conference USA on Oct. 10 and Texas State University of the Sun Belt Conference on Oct. 24 at LaVell Edwards Stadium. BYU will be facing the Roadrunners and Bobcats for the first time.

I am excited to hear that the Bobcats got BYU to replace their road game with New Mexico State. That was an upgrade. The game will be nationally televised. The Bobcats open up at home this weekend against SMU on ESPN. I have something to look forward to this weekend in college football.

Been trying to convince UMass to play a few away games this fall. Wish we'd scheduled you guys in Provo.

Rumor is that BYU was set to announce games with Temple 10/2, UCF 11/7, and Marshall 11/28. But, the uncertainty with the Temple season and stadium nixed the Temple game. The Temple uncertainty and the ECU-Marshall game postponement caused the AAC to ask teams to keep later-season openings available for postponed games (including UCF's opening on 11/7 and Memphis' opening on 11/21).

Evidently, Marshall is holding its November open dates available for postponed ECU game. There is still a chance that BYU plays UCF, Memphis and/or Marshall in November, but decision not likely to be made until October or later.

The Oct 16 BYU/Houston game has been moved to Houston. Kickoff is scheduled for 830 PM Houston time (730 Provo time).
https://byucougars.com/story/football/12...nge-venues

BYU did well to put a schedule together when many thought they couldn't.

(08-20-2020 07:47 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(08-14-2020 08:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-13-2020 11:45 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  El Paso is Mountain Time Zone. I know, my brother's wife is from El Paso. That western part of Texas along the Rio Grande is very Hispanic. Amazingly San Diego is almost exactly the same distance as Houston, closer than Dallas. It's the very western tip of Texas. But it is Texas.

FWIW, Dallas is about 100 miles closer to El Paso than is San Diego (or Houston).

Yes, El Paso is definitely Texas, but OTOH, it is West Texas, the Texas of John Wayne movies, tumbleweeds, craggy canyons and mountains, desert and high plains etc. It is "Southwestern" in a way that Houston is not.

Ironically, what Quo described is what people who never have been to Texas think the rest of the state looks like. I thought Dallas looked like Phoenix before the family moved here from California in the mid 90’s. I was disappointed there were no mountains and the humidity is bad most of the time.

El Paso is to the west of Santa Fe and Denver.

It’s closer to three state capitals than Austin.

The nearest P5 school is the University of Arizona in Tucson.

Phoenix is the closest pro sports market.

When announcers say before the end of a game “coming up next (insert tv show or movie) except in the West Coast”.......the El Paso channels don’t get that show or movie.

It that doesn’t scream Western, I don’t know what what will.

I don't know how many times people have talked about Houston like tumbleweeds are rolling down the streets!

Houston gets more rain than Seattle. For that matter, so does Atlanta.

Holmoe confirms the week 2 bye after a short week with Navy on Monday: https://twitter.com/TomHolmoe/status/130...0653310986

Love everybody’s ideas to help schedule games! In this case we play Navy Monday night on the east coast at 8 pm. Won’t be able to do much with the team on Tuesday after late night/early morning flight home. VERY short week? Gotta protect the Boys the next Sat with a BYE!

BYU @ Army postponed due to covid-19 outbreak (3 traveling BYU people who did not play in the Navy game tested positive--so word is New York won't let them come and play). Hopefully this can be re-sccheduled for either November 28 or December 5 where both have an opening.

BYU also added another home game against Louisiana Tech for Friday, October 2.