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Democrat Governors and Mayors are sitting idly by while their cities and people are being attacked nightly. They are moving to defund their police even as they are needed more than ever. Why, and what do they believe they will gain from it? I think I have the answer....

It always goes back to power and money. All of these Democrat communities and states have unfundable liabilities they can't possible pay. They owe retirements to city and state employees and can't tax enough to meet the pensions. Simple put they need a federal bailout and they know Trump and the Republicans won't stand for it. As we speak Palosi and the Democrats are holding up stimulus checks, because the Democrat's want their governors and mayors in charge of funds.

We all know the Democrats don't care about the struggle of minorities. In fact, the longest filibuster on record was Democrat Strom Thurmond's 24 hours and 18 minute speach, when he held up the Civil Rights act of 1957. If the Democrats actually cared about the suffering of minorities they would have taken action to stop the perpetual violence in Chicago. No, the Democrats are just using social justice as a pawn to further the DNC's agenda to disrupt the country enough to steal the election in November and I think these Democrat governors and mayors are playing along, because their is something in it for them. Let me explain my opinion...

These riots in Democrat controlled cities allow their leadership to petition the federal government for money. These Democrat governors and mayors have made it clear that they don't want federal help unless it is money. The Trump administration has already turned down Minneapolis' request for disaster funds. Basically, the Democrat plan seems to be to extort the federal government for money, and use the money to bail out their failing state and local governments. But, it has yet to work. When the riots began, no direct money for Democrat controlled communities was included in the first round of stimulus, and then calls for defunding the police started.

I think the defund the police movement is more than just a strategy to divert fund to social programs. I think it could be a means of increasing resentment towards police to the point where Democrat governors and mayors unilaterally defund law enforcement pension plans in their communities in order to divert the funds to other state and local pensions. Then they will blame Trump for it, under the argument that he wouldn't bail them out during this financial crisis. Sure it would be challenged in the courts. But, it would spend years in the system, and by the time a ruling came from the Supreme Court, the funds from these pensions would be long gone, and the federal government will have to step in a bail out those pensions anyway. And remember, this is just one tactic the left is using to try and pry the presidency away from Trump. You may think this sounds impossible, but this is 2020. This is the year of impossibly bad things.

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Sounds reasonable chicken little. Be very afraid!
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One is hard pressed to attack any handouts considering the amount of cash corporations have been awarded in the past decade.
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(07-31-2020 09:03 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Democrat Governors and Mayors are sitting idly by while their cities and people are being attacked nightly. They are moving to defund their police even as they are needed more than ever. Why, and what do they believe they will gain from it? I think I have the answer....

It always goes back to power and money. All of these Democrat communities and states have unfundable liabilities they can't possible pay. They owe retirements to city and state employees and can't tax enough to meet the pensions. Simple put they need a federal bailout and they know Trump and the Republicans won't stand for it. As we speak Palosi and the Democrats are holding up stimulus checks, because the Democrat's want their governors and mayors in charge of funds.

We all know the Democrats don't care about the struggle of minorities. In fact, the longest filibuster on record was Democrat Strom Thurmond's 24 hours and 18 minute speach, when he held up the Civil Rights act of 1957. If the Democrats actually cared about the suffering of minorities they would have taken action to stop the perpetual violence in Chicago. No, the Democrats are just using social justice as a pawn to further the DNC's agenda to disrupt the country enough to steal the election in November and I think these Democrat governors and mayors are playing along, because their is something in it for them. Let me explain my opinion...

These riots in Democrat controlled cities allow their leadership to petition the federal government for money. These Democrat governors and mayors have made it clear that they don't want federal help unless it is money. The Trump administration has already turned down Minneapolis' request for disaster funds. Basically, the Democrat plan seems to be to extort the federal government for money, and use the money to bail out their failing state and local governments. But, it has yet to work. When the riots began, no direct money for Democrat controlled communities was included in the first round of stimulus, and then calls for defunding the police started.

I think the defund the police movement is more than just a strategy to divert fund to social programs. I think it could be a means of increasing resentment towards police to the point where Democrat governors and mayors unilaterally defund law enforcement pension plans in their communities in order to divert the funds to other state and local pensions. Then they will blame Trump for it, under the argument that he wouldn't bail them out during this financial crisis. Sure it would be challenged in the courts. But, it would spend years in the system, and by the time a ruling came from the Supreme Court, the funds from these pensions would be long gone, and the federal government will have to step in a bail out those pensions anyway. And remember, this is just one tactic the left is using to try and pry the presidency away from Trump. You may think this sounds impossible, but this is 2020. This is the year of impossibly bad things.

I like to read your opinions.....

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(07-31-2020 09:03 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Democrat Governors and Mayors are sitting idly by while their cities and people are being attacked nightly. They are moving to defund their police even as they are needed more than ever. Why, and what do they believe they will gain from it? I think I have the answer....

It always goes back to power and money. All of these Democrat communities and states have unfundable liabilities they can't possible pay. They owe retirements to city and state employees and can't tax enough to meet the pensions. Simple put they need a federal bailout and they know Trump and the Republicans won't stand for it. As we speak Palosi and the Democrats are holding up stimulus checks, because the Democrat's want their governors and mayors in charge of funds.

We all know the Democrats don't care about the struggle of minorities. In fact, the longest filibuster on record was Democrat Strom Thurmond's 24 hours and 18 minute speach, when he held up the Civil Rights act of 1957. If the Democrats actually cared about the suffering of minorities they would have taken action to stop the perpetual violence in Chicago. No, the Democrats are just using social justice as a pawn to further the DNC's agenda to disrupt the country enough to steal the election in November and I think these Democrat governors and mayors are playing along, because their is something in it for them. Let me explain my opinion...

These riots in Democrat controlled cities allow their leadership to petition the federal government for money. These Democrat governors and mayors have made it clear that they don't want federal help unless it is money. The Trump administration has already turned down Minneapolis' request for disaster funds. Basically, the Democrat plan seems to be to extort the federal government for money, and use the money to bail out their failing state and local governments. But, it has yet to work. When the riots began, no direct money for Democrat controlled communities was included in the first round of stimulus, and then calls for defunding the police started.

I think the defund the police movement is more than just a strategy to divert fund to social programs. I think it could be a means of increasing resentment towards police to the point where Democrat governors and mayors unilaterally defund law enforcement pension plans in their communities in order to divert the funds to other state and local pensions. Then they will blame Trump for it, under the argument that he wouldn't bail them out during this financial crisis. Sure it would be challenged in the courts. But, it would spend years in the system, and by the time a ruling came from the Supreme Court, the funds from these pensions would be long gone, and the federal government will have to step in a bail out those pensions anyway. And remember, this is just one tactic the left is using to try and pry the presidency away from Trump. You may think this sounds impossible, but this is 2020. This is the year of impossibly bad things.

I like to read your opinions.....

You may be on to something here. While I doubt that's the entire game plan I can imagine it being a significant aspect of their agenda towards an even broader and more insidious endgame. My chicken little voice tells me that they won't stop until they've achieved their quasi-communist state.

Speaking of chickenshit little's, like Jim said, ignore that whiny little voice you heard in the first response and the few subsequent shrill sky-screeching cucks who may follow. If you need any proof they are unstable consider that they'll be casting their votes for a man whose cognitive decline and lack of mental faculties is obvious.
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(08-01-2020 06:53 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 09:03 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Democrat Governors and Mayors are sitting idly by while their cities and people are being attacked nightly. They are moving to defund their police even as they are needed more than ever. Why, and what do they believe they will gain from it? I think I have the answer....

It always goes back to power and money. All of these Democrat communities and states have unfundable liabilities they can't possible pay. They owe retirements to city and state employees and can't tax enough to meet the pensions. Simple put they need a federal bailout and they know Trump and the Republicans won't stand for it. As we speak Palosi and the Democrats are holding up stimulus checks, because the Democrat's want their governors and mayors in charge of funds.

We all know the Democrats don't care about the struggle of minorities. In fact, the longest filibuster on record was Democrat Strom Thurmond's 24 hours and 18 minute speach, when he held up the Civil Rights act of 1957. If the Democrats actually cared about the suffering of minorities they would have taken action to stop the perpetual violence in Chicago. No, the Democrats are just using social justice as a pawn to further the DNC's agenda to disrupt the country enough to steal the election in November and I think these Democrat governors and mayors are playing along, because their is something in it for them. Let me explain my opinion...

These riots in Democrat controlled cities allow their leadership to petition the federal government for money. These Democrat governors and mayors have made it clear that they don't want federal help unless it is money. The Trump administration has already turned down Minneapolis' request for disaster funds. Basically, the Democrat plan seems to be to extort the federal government for money, and use the money to bail out their failing state and local governments. But, it has yet to work. When the riots began, no direct money for Democrat controlled communities was included in the first round of stimulus, and then calls for defunding the police started.

I think the defund the police movement is more than just a strategy to divert fund to social programs. I think it could be a means of increasing resentment towards police to the point where Democrat governors and mayors unilaterally defund law enforcement pension plans in their communities in order to divert the funds to other state and local pensions. Then they will blame Trump for it, under the argument that he wouldn't bail them out during this financial crisis. Sure it would be challenged in the courts. But, it would spend years in the system, and by the time a ruling came from the Supreme Court, the funds from these pensions would be long gone, and the federal government will have to step in a bail out those pensions anyway. And remember, this is just one tactic the left is using to try and pry the presidency away from Trump. You may think this sounds impossible, but this is 2020. This is the year of impossibly bad things.

I like to read your opinions.....

+3 Great Post
Ignore Liberal Morons here....
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You give these insane leftists way too much credit for logical thinking
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(08-01-2020 06:06 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  One is hard pressed to attack any handouts considering the amount of cash corporations have been awarded in the past decade.

Only if you ignore the amount of cash the stated have been given over that same decade.

To me the bigger issue is power, not money. Of course they go hand in hand to politicians.... but this is about power.
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(08-01-2020 11:24 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 06:06 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  One is hard pressed to attack any handouts considering the amount of cash corporations have been awarded in the past decade.

Only if you ignore the amount of cash the stated have been given over that same decade.

To me the bigger issue is power, not money. Of course they go hand in hand to politicians.... but this is about power.

With Democrats it is always about power. Money is just a tool they use to control their constituents. When they have less money to buy votes or rig elections, their power weakens.
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Trump's four orders he signed yesterday seem to provide a way to fund relief to the American people, without handing bailouts to democrat leaders in liberal states and cities. If he can pull it off, it should not only be an effective counter to the lefts maneuver I hypothesized in my original post of this thread, but also place additional pressure on them to help their citizens leading up to the November elections. Remember, there are house and senate races across this nation. With these actions, Trump has turned the tables and the left has been painted into a corner.
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Defunding the police was something of a grassroots movement, at least to begin with, but I don't particularly doubt politicians will use it in the way described.
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(08-09-2020 04:46 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Defunding the police was something of a grassroots movement, at least to begin with, but I don't particularly doubt politicians will use it in the way described.

I might be inclined to agree with you, if not for the pallets of bricks that were conveniently deposited at protest locations across America before protester/rioters arrived.







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They view it as a political opportunity. If they live in a far left political monoculture then it's possible they're even right about that as perverse as it sounds. However at the state level on up (yes, even for states like California) it's probably a miscalculation that will cost support. And now here's my own bit of conjecture out of thin air: It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the CCP was funding radical anarchists and Marxists and communists. They are useful idiots. They don't need to be controlled directly they're already pre-wired to carry out the agenda wanted by the CCP. But since they're typically losers who accomplish nothing in life they need funding to accomplish much of anything.
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(08-09-2020 04:56 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  They view it as a political opportunity. If they live in a far left political monoculture then it's possible they're even right about that as perverse as it sounds. However at the state level on up (yes, even for states like California) it's probably a miscalculation that will cost support. And now here's my own bit of conjecture out of thin air: It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the CCP was funding radical anarchists and Marxists and communists. They are useful idiots. They don't need to be controlled directly they're already pre-wired to carry out the agenda wanted by the CCP. But since they're typically losers who accomplish nothing in life they need funding to accomplish much of anything.

I have no doubt that China's communist party (Russia's too) has an all out campaign to get a democrat in the Whitehouse. Just Trump's trade war against China has set back their ambitions by probably a decade. If Trump gets a second term in office China will have no option but to agree to a more fair trade deal, and accept a secondary role on the world stage. They have a billion people to feed, and that ain't cheap. They could never win a trade war with the US. They have no choice but to disrupt our social system and illegally influence our elections in hopes of unseating Trump.
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China is on the verge of the world's ... and indeed history's largest debt bubble. There are no ambitions for the Chinese ... only a powder keg with lots of matches around.
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(08-09-2020 05:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  China is on the verge of the world's ... and indeed history's largest debt bubble. There are no ambitions for the Chinese ... only a powder keg with lots of matches around.

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(08-09-2020 04:39 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Trump's four orders he signed yesterday seem to provide a way to fund relief to the American people, without handing bailouts to democrat leaders in liberal states and cities. If he can pull it off, it should not only be an effective counter to the lefts maneuver I hypothesized in my original post of this thread, but also place additional pressure on them to help their citizens leading up to the November elections. Remember, there are house and senate races across this nation. With these actions, Trump has turned the tables and the left has been painted into a corner.

Trump's actions are brilliant. If any are blocked in court, he turns to Congress and says I need a bill for this. Are you going to do this or not?
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(08-09-2020 05:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  China is on the verge of the world's ... and indeed history's largest debt bubble. There are no ambitions for the Chinese ... only a powder keg with lots of matches around.

Absolutely true. But, it's a bubble that is too big to pop. What China has is a geo-political economic bubble that could cast the whole world into the mother of all depressions. Trump understands that we can't pop their debt bubble without taking serious damage too. So we have to let air out at an even pace, so it doesn't blow up in our face. That is why he is working to relocate the manufacturing arm of the American economy. The Eastman-Kodak deal to manufacture ingredients for generic medication was a brilliant move. I believe it is only the first step.
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So which cites have burned? What is the endgame to say that happened when it didn’t?
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Every store in downtown Chicago is being looted right now. Seattle, Austin, ATL, New York, and Detroit have something similar every week. Guess it’s better to pretend those cities aren’t sacrificial lambs.

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(08-10-2020 02:44 AM)BlazinBham Wrote:  Every store in downtown Chicago is being looted right now. Seattle, Austin, ATL, New York, and Detroit have something similar every week. Guess it’s better to pretend those cities aren’t sacrificial lambs.

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Hyperbole much? Every store? Every night?
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