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G5 decisons
If you are a g5 team and a p5 team does not play you this year do you isolate and only play your conference or just your region such as cusa east only play east and then play nearby team from another conference or do you maybe combine conferences.thoughts?
07-31-2020 08:26 PM
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RE: G5 decisons
I think it depends on the conference:

MWC and MAC should probably stay in conference; the MWC should extend an olive branch to BYU and see if they want to play with them for the season, especially since some MWC schools might not be fielding teams due to travel restrictions in their states.

AAC, C-USA, and SBC could play G5 OOC games especially since there’s a lot of geographic overlap:

(Ex. ECU, Charlotte, and App St)
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The American will almost certainly play conference only, excepting Army-Navy game.

MWC will probably go internal, although questions are huge surrounding the participation of Hawaii, New Mexico and the three California schools. Yes, an olive branch to BYU as one year favor each way makes sense.

I see no reason for CUSA, SBC or MAC to bother playing. FCS is already half shutdown and probably all of FCS will shut down. But why bother without money?
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I think it would be in their best interest not to come out and say that they are only playing conference games. That way they have an argument to get the money game payouts. Once they say they are going conference games only then technically both sides cancelled the game. I wouldn't try to replace those games either to further show that they fully intended to play the money game. I would do everything in my power to put the burden on the other schools and conferences.
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RE: G5 decisons
If you're the AAC, you're probably better off getting rid of non-conference games. It'll make their chances of getting the Access Bowl higher than it is.

IMO, the other leagues (at least the Sun Belt and CUSA) should consider un-scheduling whatever games aren't tied up for scheduling with ESPN to get non-conference games situated and then re-schedule those conference games around the non-conference games.
08-01-2020 09:36 AM
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RE: G5 decisons
(07-31-2020 08:26 PM)jaybird44 Wrote:  If you are a g5 team and a p5 team does not play you this year do you isolate and only play your conference or just your region such as cusa east only play east and then play nearby team from another conference or do you maybe combine conferences.thoughts?

Here is the thing---buy games (either G5 vs P5 or G5 vs FCS) dont really make sense in a year when you can only seat 20-30% of your stadium. So, most replacement games are likely to be home and homes---if schools bother replacing them at all. Probably the best way to go is an extra game on the conference schedule plus whatever you can do on the OOC front to get to 10,11, or 12 games.
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RE: G5 decisons
(08-01-2020 11:19 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 08:26 PM)jaybird44 Wrote:  If you are a g5 team and a p5 team does not play you this year do you isolate and only play your conference or just your region such as cusa east only play east and then play nearby team from another conference or do you maybe combine conferences.thoughts?

Here is the thing---buy games (either G5 vs P5 or G5 vs FCS) dont really make sense in a year when you can only seat 20-30% of your stadium. So, most replacement games are likely to be home and homes---if schools bother replacing them at all. Probably the best way to go is an extra game on the conference schedule plus whatever you can do on the OOC front to get to 10,11, or 12 games.

It seems the P5 have vacated most of the early national television slots to the G5. This could elevate the early media attention on the top G5 programs, and maybe create some new G5 match-ups attractive for ESPN. The AAC and Aresco should be in a good place to capitalize on these opportunities.
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RE: G5 decisons
(08-01-2020 01:32 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 11:19 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 08:26 PM)jaybird44 Wrote:  If you are a g5 team and a p5 team does not play you this year do you isolate and only play your conference or just your region such as cusa east only play east and then play nearby team from another conference or do you maybe combine conferences.thoughts?

Here is the thing---buy games (either G5 vs P5 or G5 vs FCS) dont really make sense in a year when you can only seat 20-30% of your stadium. So, most replacement games are likely to be home and homes---if schools bother replacing them at all. Probably the best way to go is an extra game on the conference schedule plus whatever you can do on the OOC front to get to 10,11, or 12 games.

It seems the P5 have vacated most of the early national television slots to the G5. This could elevate the early media attention on the top G5 programs, and maybe create some new G5 match-ups attractive for ESPN. The AAC and Aresco should be in a good place to capitalize on these opportunities.

That's a good point. If I am a G5 commissioner, I am looking for ways to play games from August 29 through September 19, as that will likely provide my schools with higher than normal TV ratings, in the absence of many of the top P5 teams. Even bottom feeder Sun Belt vs MAC teams could draw a lot more eyeballs than usual.
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RE: G5 decisons
(08-01-2020 01:32 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 11:19 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 08:26 PM)jaybird44 Wrote:  If you are a g5 team and a p5 team does not play you this year do you isolate and only play your conference or just your region such as cusa east only play east and then play nearby team from another conference or do you maybe combine conferences.thoughts?

Here is the thing---buy games (either G5 vs P5 or G5 vs FCS) dont really make sense in a year when you can only seat 20-30% of your stadium. So, most replacement games are likely to be home and homes---if schools bother replacing them at all. Probably the best way to go is an extra game on the conference schedule plus whatever you can do on the OOC front to get to 10,11, or 12 games.

It seems the P5 have vacated most of the early national television slots to the G5. This could elevate the early media attention on the top G5 programs, and maybe create some new G5 match-ups attractive for ESPN. The AAC and Aresco should be in a good place to capitalize on these opportunities.

Ive already stated on the AAC board my preference. I'd move to sign a one year deal to let BYU take the UConn #12 slot and play the normal 8 game schedule using 2 divisions. BYU would be in the West and Memphis or Navy could move east for 2020. Under that deal, BYU would be eligible for the AAC championship.

My second option would be to simply enter into a deal for 6 games with BYU and Army. BYU would play the 6 western schools and Army would play the 5 eastern schools. The games would just be OOC games---but they would represent fairly attractive inventory for ESPN and would probably represent needed scheduling help for Army and BYU in this current Covid mess.
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(07-31-2020 10:02 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I see no reason for CUSA, SBC or MAC to bother playing.

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(08-01-2020 09:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  If you're the AAC, you're probably better off getting rid of non-conference games. It'll make their chances of getting the Access Bowl higher than it is.

IMO, the other leagues (at least the Sun Belt and CUSA) should consider un-scheduling whatever games aren't tied up for scheduling with ESPN to get non-conference games situated and then re-schedule those conference games around the non-conference games.

Or in the places you can do so, you become the 1 in the 9+1 or 10+1.
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