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RE: "Frontline doctors" drop the bomb on Covid19
(07-29-2020 01:00 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 08:54 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/zr04GsUupOwk/

The video is 45 minutes. A group of a dozen or more doctors stand together to tell you that their experience and research on Covid19 prevention and treatment has been censored.

A couple of notes:

According to them hydroxychloroquine (sp?) along with zinc supplements is effective against Covid19.

One doctor that works at a Houston hospital says she has treated 350 patients with the oldest being 92 with hydroychloroquine have all recovered, losing 0 patients to death.

They call studies that supposedly disproves hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness as "fake science".

Hydroxychloroquine according to them is safer than taking common pain medicine such as aspirin.

Hydroxychloroquine is readily available in sub-sahara Africa and even Tehran.

They call out Dr. Voucci.

They feel strongly about opening up schools, that its more important for children to socialize with other children than actually catching Covid19.

Healthy children are asymptomatic. (I can attest to this with my 3 nephews)

They also say (unless I mis-heard) that children will not spread Covid19 to teachers.

Sharing that presser got Trump Jr. blocked from Twitter.

Interesting. The doctors said that Twitter allows more freedom of speech, unlike Facebook and Youtube that has censored them.
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Rush made a great point...

I would love to find out who at Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. is the medical expert that can (within minutes) claim that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in treating COVID-19.
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(07-29-2020 01:41 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Rush made a great point...

I would love to find out who at Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. is the medical expert that can (within minutes) claim that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in treating COVID-19.

The FDA.
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(07-29-2020 01:47 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 01:41 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Rush made a great point...

I would love to find out who at Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. is the medical expert that can (within minutes) claim that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in treating COVID-19.

The FDA.

Tell me more about your "settled science"...

You don't say...?

"Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows"

"In a large-scale retrospective analysis of 2,541 patients hospitalized between March 10 and May 2, 2020 across the system’s six hospitals, the study found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine alone died compared to 26.4% not treated with hydroxychloroquine. None of the patients had documented serious heart abnormalities; however, patients were monitored for a heart condition routinely pointed to as a reason to avoid the drug as a treatment for COVID-19.

The study was published today in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, the peer-reviewed, open-access online publication of the International Society of Infectious Diseases (ISID.org).

Patients treated with hydroxychloroquine at Henry Ford met specific protocol criteria as outlined by the hospital system’s Division of Infectious Diseases. The vast majority received the drug soon after admission; 82% within 24 hours and 91% within 48 hours of admission. All patients in the study were 18 or over with a median age of 64 years; 51% were men and 56% African American."
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RE: "Frontline doctors" drop the bomb on Covid19
(07-29-2020 01:47 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 01:41 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Rush made a great point...

I would love to find out who at Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. is the medical expert that can (within minutes) claim that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in treating COVID-19.

The FDA.

The FDA did not say this.

Quit lying when it's been demonstrated clearly in your own documents.
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(07-29-2020 01:47 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 01:41 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Rush made a great point...

I would love to find out who at Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. is the medical expert that can (within minutes) claim that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in treating COVID-19.

The FDA.

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From the FDA themselves Link

Quote:June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

Hambone, you certainly seem to be very knowledgeable in the field of medicine and I promise I'm not trying to be contrarian. I am genuinely curious to see if I am misunderstanding their statement. Does the bolded part from their decision to reverse the EUA not say they determined it was ineffective? Or are they simply saying due to the risk of complications it has been deemed ineffective for PCPs handing them out as prophylactics and it should only be used in a controlled environment?
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(07-29-2020 03:44 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  From the FDA themselves Link

Quote:June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

Hambone, you certainly seem to be very knowledgeable in the field of medicine and I promise I'm not trying to be contrarian. I am genuinely curious to see if I am misunderstanding their statement. Does the bolded part from their decision to reverse the EUA not say they determined it was ineffective? Or are they simply saying due to the risk of complications it has been deemed ineffective for PCPs handing them out as prophylactics and it should only be used in a controlled environment?

I answered this in an earlier post... but look at your quote... the key comment is:
FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible.

I'm trying to be as brief as I can. Let me give an example...

Fluzone is a medication that has been approved by the FDA for use to shorten the duration of flu symptoms 'if administered within iirc, 48 hours of the first symptom'... That is the 'on-label use'. The OFF label use might be to prescribe it anyway to someone who is 49 hours in... and an EUA might approve trying fluzone for terminal covid patients who don't have access to clinical trials.

Because this is an 'emergency' action that 'ignores' the rules of the FDA, the EUA requires a few things.
1) it requires no additional comorbidities... and a few were found. They don't know without more testing if those were related to covid, or the medication.
2) it requires pretty significant efficacy.

The lack of significant efficacy on this population doesn't mean it didn't work at all. It just means that it didn't work well enough on this population for us to ignore the potential risks. The drug could easily be approved if we discover that those new risks were related to the disease, not the drug. It also doesn't mean that it wouldn't work better on a different population... hence more studies.

This is about liability and safety which is the FDA's job... not 'patient treatment' which is doctor's job. The whole idea of 'well, if they're terminal anyway' is what allows EUAs... and not merely 'let's try it on otherwise healthy people'.... EUA's are like allowing drug companies/scientists to use people as guinea pigs without the normal processes and protections of a clinical trial.... which is a MAJOR breach of their practice. The revocation of the EUA merely means that doctors can do so, and formal trials can do so... but not just anybody.
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(07-29-2020 04:25 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 03:44 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  From the FDA themselves Link

Quote:June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

Hambone, you certainly seem to be very knowledgeable in the field of medicine and I promise I'm not trying to be contrarian. I am genuinely curious to see if I am misunderstanding their statement. Does the bolded part from their decision to reverse the EUA not say they determined it was ineffective? Or are they simply saying due to the risk of complications it has been deemed ineffective for PCPs handing them out as prophylactics and it should only be used in a controlled environment?

I answered this in an earlier post... but look at your quote... the key comment is:
FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible.

I'm trying to be as brief as I can. Let me give an example...

Fluzone is a medication that has been approved by the FDA for use to shorten the duration of flu symptoms 'if administered within iirc, 48 hours of the first symptom'... That is the 'on-label use'. The OFF label use might be to prescribe it anyway to someone who is 49 hours in... and an EUA might approve trying fluzone for terminal covid patients who don't have access to clinical trials.

Because this is an 'emergency' action that 'ignores' the rules of the FDA, the EUA requires a few things.
1) it requires no additional comorbidities... and a few were found. They don't know without more testing if those were related to covid, or the medication.
2) it requires pretty significant efficacy.

The lack of significant efficacy on this population doesn't mean it didn't work at all. It just means that it didn't work well enough on this population for us to ignore the potential risks. The drug could easily be approved if we discover that those new risks were related to the disease, not the drug. It also doesn't mean that it wouldn't work better on a different population... hence more studies.

This is about liability and safety which is the FDA's job... not 'patient treatment' which is doctor's job. The whole idea of 'well, if they're terminal anyway' is what allows EUAs... and not merely 'let's try it on otherwise healthy people'.... EUA's are like allowing drug companies/scientists to use people as guinea pigs without the normal processes and protections of a clinical trial.... which is a MAJOR breach of their practice. The revocation of the EUA merely means that doctors can do so, and formal trials can do so... but not just anybody.

+2 Thank you for the explanation

So in short, when they say it isn't effective it isn't to say it isn't effective at all, just not up to the standard to keep the EUA in effect
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(07-29-2020 04:25 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 03:44 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  From the FDA themselves Link

Quote:June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

Hambone, you certainly seem to be very knowledgeable in the field of medicine and I promise I'm not trying to be contrarian. I am genuinely curious to see if I am misunderstanding their statement. Does the bolded part from their decision to reverse the EUA not say they determined it was ineffective? Or are they simply saying due to the risk of complications it has been deemed ineffective for PCPs handing them out as prophylactics and it should only be used in a controlled environment?

I answered this in an earlier post... but look at your quote... the key comment is:
FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible.

I'm trying to be as brief as I can. Let me give an example...

Fluzone is a medication that has been approved by the FDA for use to shorten the duration of flu symptoms 'if administered within iirc, 48 hours of the first symptom'... That is the 'on-label use'. The OFF label use might be to prescribe it anyway to someone who is 49 hours in... and an EUA might approve trying fluzone for terminal covid patients who don't have access to clinical trials.

Because this is an 'emergency' action that 'ignores' the rules of the FDA, the EUA requires a few things.
1) it requires no additional comorbidities... and a few were found. They don't know without more testing if those were related to covid, or the medication.
2) it requires pretty significant efficacy.

The lack of significant efficacy on this population doesn't mean it didn't work at all. It just means that it didn't work well enough on this population for us to ignore the potential risks. The drug could easily be approved if we discover that those new risks were related to the disease, not the drug. It also doesn't mean that it wouldn't work better on a different population... hence more studies.

This is about liability and safety which is the FDA's job... not 'patient treatment' which is doctor's job. The whole idea of 'well, if they're terminal anyway' is what allows EUAs... and not merely 'let's try it on otherwise healthy people'.... EUA's are like allowing drug companies/scientists to use people as guinea pigs without the normal processes and protections of a clinical trial.... which is a MAJOR breach of their practice. The revocation of the EUA merely means that doctors can do so, and formal trials can do so... but not just anybody.

Fauci continues to reference studies. But both studies he references are flawed. The Lancet study has been retracted and repudiated. The Brazil study only used late stage patients treated with Hydroxychloroquine and then in doses which Bayer had deemed potentially lethal. This is why this continues to be a disingenuous issue. And waiting for more studies when the countries using Hydroxychloroquine have actually faired better on both infection rate and morbidity than have the Western European countries and the U.S. who have delayed, defrayed, or discouraged its use.

But towing the party line of whatever corporation sounds reasonable, but whether it is or not is wholly dependent upon what studies they will acknowledge and which ones they won't. It doesn't change the political football nature of this matter at all. What is especially confounding the ignoring of data that has come from actually treating the virus.
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(07-29-2020 03:30 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 01:47 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 01:41 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Rush made a great point...

I would love to find out who at Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. is the medical expert that can (within minutes) claim that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective in treating COVID-19.

The FDA.

The FDA did not say this.

Quit lying when it's been demonstrated clearly in your own documents.



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I've been curious about something, I wonder if my doctor would treat me with hydrox if I came down with the Chiflu. I've got a doctors appointment this Friday and I'm gonna ask her. If she hums and haws and she comes up with a Faucci type answer I'll be in the market for another doctor. I couldn't trust my doctor not to treat me with hydrox just because she hates Trump and that my friends is the only reason she wouldn't. I sincerely believe that. I wonder though if I could find one who would in El Paso the most Demoncraptic city in Texas...or so it seems.
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“The FDA has a responsibility to regularly review the appropriateness of an EUA, and as such, the agency will review emerging information associated with the emergency uses for the authorized products. Recent results from a large randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients, a population similar to the population for which chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine were authorized for emergency use, demonstrated that hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit on mortality or in speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including data showing that the suggested dosing regimens for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. The totality of scientific evidence currently available indicate a lack of benefit.“

Will they close the door... no. Have clinical trials proven hydroxychloroquine to be ineffective in fighting Covid? Yes.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-an...oquine-and
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(07-29-2020 06:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Some of the Doctors (and patients) who said it works to treat Covid-19 ...

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/h...ment-study

https://www.zochem.com/la-doctor-seeing-...-covid-19/

https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/wo...-treatment

https://abc6onyourside.com/on-your-side/...erns-mount

https://www.mysuncoast.com/2020/04/01/co...treatment/

It's kind of odd isn't it. The guys at the FDA who are heavily influenced by Big Pharma and sometimes invested in it disqualify a cheap but effective drug that has been safely used for over 60 years, and jump on Rindesivir which is $1400 a pop and essentially a failure for what it was developed to do, but is the baby of a company heavily invested in by some major Tech CEO's and by some front companies from China. And the guys and gals in the front lines of the pandemic all seem to think the cheaper drug works better.

You know a lot of things in government where things are heavily influenced by lobby seem to work that way.
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Apparently liberals only want opinions from docs who share their opinion. If a doc has another opinion, they’re squashed by the left. It’s the lefts cancel culture. Doesn’t matter the subject.

Wonder what the narrative would be if the right squashed a black, female doctor from Africa? It’d be ugly and on every lib station for weeks.

This doc says she’s treated 350 covid patients with fantastic results. Why not talk to her about her treatment regimens? They’ve obviously worked.

What’s the real reason for not wanting to discuss?
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(07-29-2020 11:18 PM)450bench Wrote:  Apparently liberals only want opinions from docs who share their opinion. If a doc has another opinion, they’re squashed by the left. It’s the lefts cancel culture. Doesn’t matter the subject.

Wonder what the narrative would be if the right squashed a black, female doctor from Africa? It’d be ugly and on every lib station for weeks.

This doc says she’s treated 350 covid patients with fantastic results. Why not talk to her about her treatment regimens? They’ve obviously worked.

What’s the real reason for not wanting to discuss?

I'm wondering why people aren't pointing out the blatant ethnocentrism and racism being perpetuated against that doctor from the left.
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(07-29-2020 10:46 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
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(07-29-2020 10:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 09:33 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  She seems like the perfect person to lead Trump’s corona response... a strip mall pediatrician/part-time minister from Houston. Geez, the desperation of the right is well past comical.

These are two of the most disingenuous posts I've seen from you two. And that's saying something because of the number of them you have made.

The Doctors referenced and covered by the press yesterday weren't from a strip mall. The were emergency room doctors from Los Angeles. Although front line work is done by the Doc in the Box type of locations, the ones who did the speaking were ER physicians.

Nice try with the bait and switch but it's what I expected.

I would be happy to link the interviews but the Social Media has elected to censor them and has removed them and search engines have removed the link. For those who want to see FOX and One America News have been covering the story. I linked the Yale Epidemiologist Dr. Risch in an earlier thread here a week or two ago. Doctors from Texas and Los Angeles have spoken similarly to Dr. Risch. Your Marxist Apparatchiks at Google and Bing among others simply don't want the truth out there. They need dying people to have a shot at the election. Aren't you willing to take one for team Commie?

And this is why they were removed...

Yahoo News
There is no end to liars covering liars within the MSM and Social Media. I see we have a few here as well. But most poster's here know that the truth isn't in you.

Most posters here are unfamiliar with any version of the truth not presented to them by Donald Trump.


Lol

What a limp-d!ck thing to say, even for you.

Yea, we all just popped up 3 years ago, never been in the arena before.

You’re a lousy clown show. Time to exit stage left
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(07-30-2020 07:54 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:46 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  These are two of the most disingenuous posts I've seen from you two. And that's saying something because of the number of them you have made.

The Doctors referenced and covered by the press yesterday weren't from a strip mall. The were emergency room doctors from Los Angeles. Although front line work is done by the Doc in the Box type of locations, the ones who did the speaking were ER physicians.

Nice try with the bait and switch but it's what I expected.

I would be happy to link the interviews but the Social Media has elected to censor them and has removed them and search engines have removed the link. For those who want to see FOX and One America News have been covering the story. I linked the Yale Epidemiologist Dr. Risch in an earlier thread here a week or two ago. Doctors from Texas and Los Angeles have spoken similarly to Dr. Risch. Your Marxist Apparatchiks at Google and Bing among others simply don't want the truth out there. They need dying people to have a shot at the election. Aren't you willing to take one for team Commie?

And this is why they were removed...

Yahoo News
There is no end to liars covering liars within the MSM and Social Media. I see we have a few here as well. But most poster's here know that the truth isn't in you.

Most posters here are unfamiliar with any version of the truth not presented to them by Donald Trump.


Lol

What a limp-d!ck thing to say, even for you.

Yea, we all just popped up 3 years ago, never been in the arena before.

You’re a lousy clown show. Time to exit stage left

Yep

And the true irony on Marc’s statement boggles the mind. It proves that liberals have truly no idea what the meaning of truth is.
If you watched the Barr hearing the other day, the liberal delusion was on full display.
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RE: "Frontline doctors" drop the bomb on Covid19
(07-30-2020 08:10 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 07:54 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:46 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:42 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-29-2020 10:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  And this is why they were removed...

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There is no end to liars covering liars within the MSM and Social Media. I see we have a few here as well. But most poster's here know that the truth isn't in you.

Most posters here are unfamiliar with any version of the truth not presented to them by Donald Trump.


Lol

What a limp-d!ck thing to say, even for you.

Yea, we all just popped up 3 years ago, never been in the arena before.

You’re a lousy clown show. Time to exit stage left

Yep

And the true irony on Marc’s statement boggles the mind. It proves that liberals have truly no idea what the meaning of truth is.
If you watched the Barr hearing the other day, the liberal delusion was on full display.

Most libs are used to being told what to believe/think and can not reason that many people choose to think for themselves.
07-30-2020 08:17 AM
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