(07-27-2020 09:44 PM)chess Wrote:  I wonder if the AAC basketball teams could do something like weekend games at one location.

Let's say all the teams arrive in Houston a week before the conference games are played. The Alamodome is set with six courts. After a week of quarantine and online university classes, the teams play each other like an AAU weekend. Teams may play a couple of games a day.

If universities are to play sports, it may be something like this.

The week after AAC plays their games, the SEC or Big XII uses the courts for a similar kind of setup.

With most schools closing from thanksgiving to mid-late January this year, I'm sure the AAC could set up a bubble for all 11 schools over those 2 months. The players would have to be willing to give up their christmas, but it could be done. Hold the entire conference season at least. Do a 20 game schedule playing each team twice. The players could do that without missing any school (which would be a sticking point with most other bubbles).

Without travel and school involved, teams could play 3 games a week for 6 weeks. 2 the last week then give a few days and have the conference tourney. 8 week season with 20+ games for each team. Would make the NCAA dang near impossible to seed, but we could at least crown an AAC regular season and Conference championship.

(07-27-2020 04:58 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 02:19 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 01:49 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  With the Marlins and the MLB struggling against Covid today... I think the traveling sports is starting to unravel.

We will see if the NBA bubble idea works. So far it seems like the best solution.

Can the AAC move all the players to something similar to the NBA bubble?

It sounds ridiculous and crazy but we risk losing a ton of money. So... maybe there was a contingency plan that had a conference bubble concept.

First, is the MLB talking about shutting things down, or did they just cancel a couple of games when too many players were out? i.e. any discussions of stopping?

Second, football bubble would be tough. Basketball works because teams can play a bunch of games over a short amount of time. 12 football games takes 3 months.

1) Everyone is reacting right now. It sounds like the owners want to continue. It’s on the players union to really complain about player safety and demand more precautions or end the season.

2) All we need is UCF to cancel all in person classes and close the dorms. UCF is large enough to host all the players and staff with 6,500-7,000 on campus beds. Convert the other fields to football. Multiple classroom buildings open to be used as meeting rooms and coaching offices.

You'd have to put turf down everywhere. You can't play football games repeatedly on grass without days between games to tend to it. You have two stadiums (maybe 3 with Daytona Beach's Municipal Stadium that's used for BCU games) that have the media infrastructure. So you'd have to put turf down at BHNS and DBMS...but if you did that, you could play 6 league games each weekend across three stadia.

Also, I'm not sure Navy would be able to do this. I don't see them letting the midshipmen be away from the academy for so long. Even assuming everyone else was willing to do this and it was otherwise feasible (both highly unlikely), we'd probably end up with just 10 teams.

(07-28-2020 03:57 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  I have a feeling the only way to have a college football season is to test and quarantine the teams. You basically need to create a college football bubble. lol....Good luck with that. That aint gunna be easy with around 14,000 players and coaches.

They would have to do it by conference in a geographically central place (i.e. Memphis). Most conferences have academic affiliations too. You could easily take volunteers from each university to teach various subjects. A full self-contained bubble.

As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

(07-29-2020 12:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

Neither is cowering inside, abandoning any sense of a normal life, and waiting for a vaccine to save everybody, while we wreck our economy and cause untold other deaths and destruction with suicides, domestic violence, child hunger, ruined lives without jobs, businesses shuttered forever, etc., when the data shows people under 29 rarely have serious cases (much less dangerous to that age group than the flu), and aren't necessarily effective carriers.

Funny, we first had a lockdown to "flatten the curve" and prevent overwhelming our hospitals, so more people wouldn't needlessly die due to lack of health care. But that never happened, nor is it close even with this recent surge. But somehow, the goalposts have shifted to "We can't allow any cases to spread," even though the death rate is essentially flat, and cases are nowhere near what they were in NY and NJ in the beginning.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at MLB. The Marlins now have 19 positive cases. Instead of panicking and shutting down their season, or even all of MLB, they are dealing with it:

"In light of the Marlins' outbreak, MLB is encouraging players not to leave hotels in road cities except for games, mandating the use of surgical masks instead of cloth masks during travel and requiring every team to travel with a compliance officer who ensures players and staff properly follow the league's protocol, sources told ESPN on Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564...g-total-19

Oh, and here's an article on the effect on child hunger, worldwide. Estimated 10,000 deaths a month, tied to lockdowns.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...-1.5041282

(07-30-2020 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 12:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

Neither is cowering inside, abandoning any sense of a normal life, and waiting for a vaccine to save everybody, while we wreck our economy and cause untold other deaths and destruction with suicides, domestic violence, child hunger, ruined lives without jobs, businesses shuttered forever, etc., when the data shows people under 29 rarely have serious cases (much less dangerous to that age group than the flu), and aren't necessarily effective carriers.

Funny, we first had a lockdown to "flatten the curve" and prevent overwhelming our hospitals, so more people wouldn't needlessly die due to lack of health care. But that never happened, nor is it close even with this recent surge. But somehow, the goalposts have shifted to "We can't allow any cases to spread," even though the death rate is essentially flat, and cases are nowhere near what they were in NY and NJ in the beginning.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at MLB. The Marlins now have 19 positive cases. Instead of panicking and shutting down their season, or even all of MLB, they are dealing with it:

"In light of the Marlins' outbreak, MLB is encouraging players not to leave hotels in road cities except for games, mandating the use of surgical masks instead of cloth masks during travel and requiring every team to travel with a compliance officer who ensures players and staff properly follow the league's protocol, sources told ESPN on Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564...g-total-19

Oh, and here's an article on the effect on child hunger, worldwide. Estimated 10,000 deaths a month, tied to lockdowns.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...-1.5041282

I love it when folks come on sports forums to ***** about the fact we are trying/wanting to play. Jesus ... most of us are here to talk sports. As of today, all we got is opinions on whose best ... who recruited best, whose gonna be best. Dude ... go mow your lawn !!! Not you Trip

(07-27-2020 04:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 04:13 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 03:37 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  It's costing the NBA 180 million I read to host it at Disney and house the players for 3 months. That's for roughly like 350 players and then a much smaller support staff and coaches. Each team only gets like 30 people total, and that's 22 teams 6 of which go home very soon after playing 8 games and not making the playoffs and it will be cut down each week or so after that.

It would cost an enormous amount of money to put up a football team and their TV deal isn't like the NBA's. The NBA gets 600 million for just for each team playing 8 games and meeting the TV deal minimum threshold of games. So even though it's expensive they still will make money and more than anything it's about finishing the season and keeping the sport viable and as a trial run in case this has to be done next season. .

Even with all the protocols they have already caught players inviting girls into the bubble or going to strip clubs when they got family funeral emergency leave. They will be fortunate to not have an outbreak as stupid as some of them are risking a 180 million dollar enterprise and people uprooting their life to get chicken wings at a strip club as the excuse. That was a 33 year old, not a stupid 23 year old. I can't even imagine how badly that would go with 100 college age dudes even if they could try.

And they can't get the players to actually comply with the bubble... Several have been placed into quarantine because they have broken the bubble, including crossing the street to get food delivered.

We all need hot wings from a titty bar every now and then.

I work up a sweat at hooters !!

(07-30-2020 02:41 PM)steves Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 12:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

Neither is cowering inside, abandoning any sense of a normal life, and waiting for a vaccine to save everybody, while we wreck our economy and cause untold other deaths and destruction with suicides, domestic violence, child hunger, ruined lives without jobs, businesses shuttered forever, etc., when the data shows people under 29 rarely have serious cases (much less dangerous to that age group than the flu), and aren't necessarily effective carriers.

Funny, we first had a lockdown to "flatten the curve" and prevent overwhelming our hospitals, so more people wouldn't needlessly die due to lack of health care. But that never happened, nor is it close even with this recent surge. But somehow, the goalposts have shifted to "We can't allow any cases to spread," even though the death rate is essentially flat, and cases are nowhere near what they were in NY and NJ in the beginning.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at MLB. The Marlins now have 19 positive cases. Instead of panicking and shutting down their season, or even all of MLB, they are dealing with it:

"In light of the Marlins' outbreak, MLB is encouraging players not to leave hotels in road cities except for games, mandating the use of surgical masks instead of cloth masks during travel and requiring every team to travel with a compliance officer who ensures players and staff properly follow the league's protocol, sources told ESPN on Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564...g-total-19

Oh, and here's an article on the effect on child hunger, worldwide. Estimated 10,000 deaths a month, tied to lockdowns.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...-1.5041282

I love it when folks come on sports forums to ***** about the fact we are trying/wanting to play. Jesus ... most of us are here to talk sports. As of today, all we got is opinions on whose best ... who recruited best, whose gonna be best. Dude ... go mow your lawn !!! Not you Trip

Thanks, Steve. You had me confused for a minute.

(07-30-2020 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 12:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

Neither is cowering inside, abandoning any sense of a normal life, and waiting for a vaccine to save everybody, while we wreck our economy and cause untold other deaths and destruction with suicides, domestic violence, child hunger, ruined lives without jobs, businesses shuttered forever, etc., when the data shows people under 29 rarely have serious cases (much less dangerous to that age group than the flu), and aren't necessarily effective carriers.

Funny, we first had a lockdown to "flatten the curve" and prevent overwhelming our hospitals, so more people wouldn't needlessly die due to lack of health care. But that never happened, nor is it close even with this recent surge. But somehow, the goalposts have shifted to "We can't allow any cases to spread," even though the death rate is essentially flat, and cases are nowhere near what they were in NY and NJ in the beginning.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at MLB. The Marlins now have 19 positive cases. Instead of panicking and shutting down their season, or even all of MLB, they are dealing with it:

"In light of the Marlins' outbreak, MLB is encouraging players not to leave hotels in road cities except for games, mandating the use of surgical masks instead of cloth masks during travel and requiring every team to travel with a compliance officer who ensures players and staff properly follow the league's protocol, sources told ESPN on Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564...g-total-19

Oh, and here's an article on the effect on child hunger, worldwide. Estimated 10,000 deaths a month, tied to lockdowns.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...-1.5041282

IIRC, at some point, the "experts" talked about how great herd immunity would be, for this "novel virus". i may (probably?) be looking at this wrong, but doesn't more cases, more recoveries and no spike in the death rate equate to the herd developing immunity? - i know that there are posters on here who will post a 3,000 word reply telling me why i'm wrong, thats fine. but, does anybody have a SHORT thought

(07-27-2020 07:51 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 04:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 04:13 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 03:37 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  It's costing the NBA 180 million I read to host it at Disney and house the players for 3 months. That's for roughly like 350 players and then a much smaller support staff and coaches. Each team only gets like 30 people total, and that's 22 teams 6 of which go home very soon after playing 8 games and not making the playoffs and it will be cut down each week or so after that.

It would cost an enormous amount of money to put up a football team and their TV deal isn't like the NBA's. The NBA gets 600 million for just for each team playing 8 games and meeting the TV deal minimum threshold of games. So even though it's expensive they still will make money and more than anything it's about finishing the season and keeping the sport viable and as a trial run in case this has to be done next season. .

Even with all the protocols they have already caught players inviting girls into the bubble or going to strip clubs when they got family funeral emergency leave. They will be fortunate to not have an outbreak as stupid as some of them are risking a 180 million dollar enterprise and people uprooting their life to get chicken wings at a strip club as the excuse. That was a 33 year old, not a stupid 23 year old. I can't even imagine how badly that would go with 100 college age dudes even if they could try.

And they can't get the players to actually comply with the bubble... Several have been placed into quarantine because they have broken the bubble, including crossing the street to get food delivered.

We all need hot wings from a titty bar every now and then.

Best reply of 2020... and titty bar wings are delicious.

You can have the wings. I’ll take the breasts.

(07-27-2020 09:00 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 08:17 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 07:54 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 04:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 04:13 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  And they can't get the players to actually comply with the bubble... Several have been placed into quarantine because they have broken the bubble, including crossing the street to get food delivered.

We all need hot wings from a titty bar every now and then.

Sounds like a plan to me.

TO PICK UP NIU FOR OUR TICKET TO THE AAC BUBBLE?! OH JOY, A WONDEROUS DAY!!!

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(07-31-2020 07:24 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 12:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

Neither is cowering inside, abandoning any sense of a normal life, and waiting for a vaccine to save everybody, while we wreck our economy and cause untold other deaths and destruction with suicides, domestic violence, child hunger, ruined lives without jobs, businesses shuttered forever, etc., when the data shows people under 29 rarely have serious cases (much less dangerous to that age group than the flu), and aren't necessarily effective carriers.

Funny, we first had a lockdown to "flatten the curve" and prevent overwhelming our hospitals, so more people wouldn't needlessly die due to lack of health care. But that never happened, nor is it close even with this recent surge. But somehow, the goalposts have shifted to "We can't allow any cases to spread," even though the death rate is essentially flat, and cases are nowhere near what they were in NY and NJ in the beginning.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at MLB. The Marlins now have 19 positive cases. Instead of panicking and shutting down their season, or even all of MLB, they are dealing with it:

"In light of the Marlins' outbreak, MLB is encouraging players not to leave hotels in road cities except for games, mandating the use of surgical masks instead of cloth masks during travel and requiring every team to travel with a compliance officer who ensures players and staff properly follow the league's protocol, sources told ESPN on Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564...g-total-19

Oh, and here's an article on the effect on child hunger, worldwide. Estimated 10,000 deaths a month, tied to lockdowns.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...-1.5041282

IIRC, at some point, the "experts" talked about how great herd immunity would be, for this "novel virus". i may (probably?) be looking at this wrong, but doesn't more cases, more recoveries and no spike in the death rate equate to the herd developing immunity? - i know that there are posters on here who will post a 3,000 word reply telling me why i'm wrong, thats fine. but, does anybody have a SHORT thought

Here's a short answer - right now the confirmed cases amount to about one and a half percent of the population. With that, as of today we have a little over a hundred fifty thousand deaths. I understand it takes about 60 to 70% of the population being affected before you would have the 'herd immunity" needed to reverse the spread of this virus. So extrapolate that out - that's a lot of deaths. That's a lot of disability. We really need a vaccine that's the answer.

(07-30-2020 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 12:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

Neither is cowering inside, abandoning any sense of a normal life, and waiting for a vaccine to save everybody, while we wreck our economy and cause untold other deaths and destruction with suicides, domestic violence, child hunger, ruined lives without jobs, businesses shuttered forever, etc., when the data shows people under 29 rarely have serious cases (much less dangerous to that age group than the flu), and aren't necessarily effective carriers.

Funny, we first had a lockdown to "flatten the curve" and prevent overwhelming our hospitals, so more people wouldn't needlessly die due to lack of health care. But that never happened, nor is it close even with this recent surge. But somehow, the goalposts have shifted to "We can't allow any cases to spread," even though the death rate is essentially flat, and cases are nowhere near what they were in NY and NJ in the beginning.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at MLB. The Marlins now have 19 positive cases. Instead of panicking and shutting down their season, or even all of MLB, they are dealing with it:

"In light of the Marlins' outbreak, MLB is encouraging players not to leave hotels in road cities except for games, mandating the use of surgical masks instead of cloth masks during travel and requiring every team to travel with a compliance officer who ensures players and staff properly follow the league's protocol, sources told ESPN on Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564...g-total-19

Oh, and here's an article on the effect on child hunger, worldwide. Estimated 10,000 deaths a month, tied to lockdowns.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...-1.5041282

Amen brother.

(07-31-2020 10:38 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(07-31-2020 07:24 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 12:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 12:00 PM)colohank Wrote:  As if collegiate athletics are the most important thing in the world. I have a novel idea: let's concentrate on controlling the spread of Covid in the general population until better treatments and a vaccine are available, and then all of our more trivial interests will take care of themselves. Acting like a bunch of privileged, spoiled brats isn't helpful.

Neither is cowering inside, abandoning any sense of a normal life, and waiting for a vaccine to save everybody, while we wreck our economy and cause untold other deaths and destruction with suicides, domestic violence, child hunger, ruined lives without jobs, businesses shuttered forever, etc., when the data shows people under 29 rarely have serious cases (much less dangerous to that age group than the flu), and aren't necessarily effective carriers.

Funny, we first had a lockdown to "flatten the curve" and prevent overwhelming our hospitals, so more people wouldn't needlessly die due to lack of health care. But that never happened, nor is it close even with this recent surge. But somehow, the goalposts have shifted to "We can't allow any cases to spread," even though the death rate is essentially flat, and cases are nowhere near what they were in NY and NJ in the beginning.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at MLB. The Marlins now have 19 positive cases. Instead of panicking and shutting down their season, or even all of MLB, they are dealing with it:

"In light of the Marlins' outbreak, MLB is encouraging players not to leave hotels in road cities except for games, mandating the use of surgical masks instead of cloth masks during travel and requiring every team to travel with a compliance officer who ensures players and staff properly follow the league's protocol, sources told ESPN on Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564...g-total-19

Oh, and here's an article on the effect on child hunger, worldwide. Estimated 10,000 deaths a month, tied to lockdowns.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronaviru...-1.5041282

IIRC, at some point, the "experts" talked about how great herd immunity would be, for this "novel virus". i may (probably?) be looking at this wrong, but doesn't more cases, more recoveries and no spike in the death rate equate to the herd developing immunity? - i know that there are posters on here who will post a 3,000 word reply telling me why i'm wrong, thats fine. but, does anybody have a SHORT thought

Here's a short answer - right now the confirmed cases amount to about one and a half percent of the population. With that, as of today we have a little over a hundred fifty thousand deaths. I understand it takes about 60 to 70% of the population being affected before you would have the 'herd immunity" needed to reverse the spread of this virus. So extrapolate that out - that's a lot of deaths. That's a lot of disability. We really need a vaccine that's the answer.

Yep.....not to mention we have been having 1,000+ deaths per day. Until there is a vaccine, nothing goes back to normal.

Sports won’t be normal until next Spring or Summer. Professional and college athletics know this. Especially college....they don’t have the money and these are amateur athletes.

It’s going to get worse before it gets better. You can pretend that it will go away but reality is a different story.


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Oh by the way, MLB is talking about shutting it down after a week. Thats what handling it looks like.


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