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(07-27-2020 09:01 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 08:54 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 08:50 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I'm so glad you the scientist has no doubt.

Most of the scientists and medical experts supported the shutdown measures and that's why I formed the opinion, so this isn't as good of a burn as you think it is.

Also, theres this from more recently: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/...irus-surge

Only the ones that you saw on CNN and MSNBC, but you keep on believing the narrative.

CNN and especially MSNBC are the last things I'd ever put on my TV but go off king
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(07-27-2020 09:14 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:01 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 08:54 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 08:50 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  I'm so glad you the scientist has no doubt.

Most of the scientists and medical experts supported the shutdown measures and that's why I formed the opinion, so this isn't as good of a burn as you think it is.

Also, theres this from more recently: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/...irus-surge

Only the ones that you saw on CNN and MSNBC, but you keep on believing the narrative.

CNN and especially MSNBC are the last things I'd ever put on my TV but go off king
Do you think there's a difference in political motive between CNN or MSNBC & the other possible sources you get your information from? Where do you think your sources get their information from?
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He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.
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(07-27-2020 09:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.

All I've said is the same thing we get from medical experts. I don't watch TV news but I have dealt with public health directly and learned from that.

Meanwhile you're spewing stuff either out of your a$$ or getting it from right wing media I guess? But sure you have all the credibility.
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(07-27-2020 09:25 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.

All I've said is the same thing we get from medical experts. I don't watch TV news but I have dealt with public health directly and learned from that.

Meanwhile you're spewing stuff either out of your a$$ or getting it from right wing media I guess? But sure you have all the credibility.

Why are the BLM protests/riots/'summer of love' okay but conservative protests not? That doesn't come from medical experts.
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(07-27-2020 09:25 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.

All I've said is the same thing we get from medical experts. I don't watch TV news but I have dealt with public health directly and learned from that.

Meanwhile you're spewing stuff either out of your a$$ or getting it from right wing media I guess? But sure you have all the credibility.

CDC Confirms Extremely Low COVID-19 Death Rate
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(07-27-2020 09:50 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:25 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.

All I've said is the same thing we get from medical experts. I don't watch TV news but I have dealt with public health directly and learned from that.

Meanwhile you're spewing stuff either out of your a$$ or getting it from right wing media I guess? But sure you have all the credibility.

CDC Confirms Extremely Low COVID-19 Death Rate

Cool a misleading article from a conspiracy website lol

The CDC hasn't "confirmed" anything. Yes it appears the death rate is significantly lower than feared. Doesn't make this a total non-issue though.
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(07-27-2020 09:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 08:57 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  People lying on top of each other in protest by the thousands is apparently okay tho, as well as burning our cities down. Virus knows not to touch Marxists. In fact, twas encouraged.

You're comparing people outside largely in masks to people dancing and making out drunk in bars, dude. And one of those activities, even if you disagree with the aim, is a bit more important to those people.

The protesting is certainly not ideal for COVID management but there are more risky things out there.

Some people would say dancing and making out drunk is more important to them. And it actually is for the survival of the species.04-cheers
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(07-27-2020 09:27 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:25 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.

All I've said is the same thing we get from medical experts. I don't watch TV news but I have dealt with public health directly and learned from that.

Meanwhile you're spewing stuff either out of your a$$ or getting it from right wing media I guess? But sure you have all the credibility.

Why are the BLM protests/riots/'summer of love' okay but conservative protests not? That doesn't come from medical experts.

I never said the conservative protests should have been shut down. If some actually did say that (not they personally disagree with the reopen protests, but if they actually said they shouldn't be allowed), they are hypocrites.

Also there's this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2...6c461a7dac
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(07-27-2020 10:00 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:27 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:25 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.

All I've said is the same thing we get from medical experts. I don't watch TV news but I have dealt with public health directly and learned from that.

Meanwhile you're spewing stuff either out of your a$$ or getting it from right wing media I guess? But sure you have all the credibility.

Why are the BLM protests/riots/'summer of love' okay but conservative protests not? That doesn't come from medical experts.

I never said the conservative protests should have been shut down. If some actually did say that (not they personally disagree with the reopen protests, but if they actually said they shouldn't be allowed), they are hypocrites.

Also there's this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2...6c461a7dac

Big Gretch & her cronies.
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OK. I'm no big fan of Whitmer anyway. But you'll have to take it up with someone else, not my argument
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(07-27-2020 09:59 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 08:57 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  People lying on top of each other in protest by the thousands is apparently okay tho, as well as burning our cities down. Virus knows not to touch Marxists. In fact, twas encouraged.

You're comparing people outside largely in masks to people dancing and making out drunk in bars, dude. And one of those activities, even if you disagree with the aim, is a bit more important to those people.

The protesting is certainly not ideal for COVID management but there are more risky things out there.

Some people would say dancing and making out drunk is more important to them. And it actually is for the survival of the species.04-cheers

I mean.. when I was in college I certainly would've thought so.
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(07-27-2020 10:04 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  OK. I'm no big fan of Whitmer anyway. But you'll have to take it up with someone else, not my argument

In regards to the Forbes link, so if scientists determined large gatherings in the thousands all across the country didn't cause a spike in covid cases, why are non-BLM large outdoor gatherings strongly discouraged?
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(07-27-2020 10:06 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:04 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  OK. I'm no big fan of Whitmer anyway. But you'll have to take it up with someone else, not my argument

So if scientists determined large gatherings in the thousands all across the country didn't cause a spike in covid cases, why are other large outdoor gatherings forbidden?

Well I'm not really sure how to feel about that.

“Officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.” NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.

I would think at the least, places like beaches, parks, golf courses have no real reason to stay closed. Maybe outdoors in general should all be open. Not sure what most states have done. We don't really have any restrictions outside and outdoor dining is heavily encouraged vs. indoor seating.
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(07-27-2020 10:10 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:06 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:04 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  OK. I'm no big fan of Whitmer anyway. But you'll have to take it up with someone else, not my argument

So if scientists determined large gatherings in the thousands all across the country didn't cause a spike in covid cases, why are other large outdoor gatherings forbidden?

Well I'm not really sure how to feel about that.

“Officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.” NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.

I would think at the least, places like beaches, parks, golf courses have no real reason to stay closed. Maybe outdoors in general should all be open. Not sure what most states have done. We don't really have any restrictions outside and outdoor dining is heavily encouraged vs. indoor seating.

I think I'll leave you here for the night, but personally I don't buy any of those reasons.
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(07-27-2020 09:58 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:50 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:25 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 09:17 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  He has absolutely NO credibility at this point.

All I've said is the same thing we get from medical experts. I don't watch TV news but I have dealt with public health directly and learned from that.

Meanwhile you're spewing stuff either out of your a$$ or getting it from right wing media I guess? But sure you have all the credibility.

CDC Confirms Extremely Low COVID-19 Death Rate

Cool a misleading article from a conspiracy website lol

The CDC hasn't "confirmed" anything. Yes it appears the death rate is significantly lower than feared. Doesn't make this a total non-issue though.

Yes, but it DOES tell you that you simply can't take all this "scientific" advice as gospel. Scientist have been wrong throughout this pandemic yet everyone keeps telling us to "listed to the scientist".
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What makes me really question the effectiveness of the lockdowns is I suspect the virus had been here long before the first confirmed case.
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(07-27-2020 10:06 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:04 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  OK. I'm no big fan of Whitmer anyway. But you'll have to take it up with someone else, not my argument

In regards to the Forbes link, so if scientists determined large gatherings in the thousands all across the country didn't cause a spike in covid cases, why are non-BLM large outdoor gatherings strongly discouraged?


It wasn’t even “scientists”, it was a team of economists.
In most cases you can’t get 2 economists to agree on anything en total.
You could ask them how many slices do you want your pizza cut in to? One will say “eight slices, I’m hungry I can eat four.” The other will say, “No, only four slices, I can never eat more than two”. If you’re relying on 60 economists for this, you’re doing it wrong.

Somehow this virus can discern between BLM rioters and looters and those going with their families to the beach for a weekend. Those chinese are some clever mo-fo’s!
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(07-27-2020 10:16 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:10 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:06 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:04 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  OK. I'm no big fan of Whitmer anyway. But you'll have to take it up with someone else, not my argument

So if scientists determined large gatherings in the thousands all across the country didn't cause a spike in covid cases, why are other large outdoor gatherings forbidden?

Well I'm not really sure how to feel about that.

“Officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.” NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.

I would think at the least, places like beaches, parks, golf courses have no real reason to stay closed. Maybe outdoors in general should all be open. Not sure what most states have done. We don't really have any restrictions outside and outdoor dining is heavily encouraged vs. indoor seating.

I think I'll leave you here for the night, but personally I don't buy any of those reasons.

Its just too politically correct. A bunch of scientists signed a letter saying protests were no risk before there was any data. New York banned their people from asking if people had been at protests. Now 1000 people in a bar vs. 1000 people at an outdoor protest, yes the bar will be more likely to spread it. But the latter definitely spread it as well. A few liberal city mayors (LA for one) have said it spread the virus. Houston had a spike a couple weeks after the massive funeral parade/protest and there were stories of people getting sick.
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(07-27-2020 10:16 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:10 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:06 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:04 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  OK. I'm no big fan of Whitmer anyway. But you'll have to take it up with someone else, not my argument

So if scientists determined large gatherings in the thousands all across the country didn't cause a spike in covid cases, why are other large outdoor gatherings forbidden?

Well I'm not really sure how to feel about that.

“Officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.” NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.

I would think at the least, places like beaches, parks, golf courses have no real reason to stay closed. Maybe outdoors in general should all be open. Not sure what most states have done. We don't really have any restrictions outside and outdoor dining is heavily encouraged vs. indoor seating.

I think I'll leave you here for the night, but personally I don't buy any of those reasons.

Its just too politically correct. A bunch of scientists signed a letter saying protests were no risk before there was any data. New York banned their people from asking if people had been at protests. Now 1000 people in a bar vs. 1000 people at an outdoor protest, yes the bar will be more likely to spread it. But the latter definitely spread it as well. A few liberal city mayors (LA for one) have said it spread the virus. Houston had a spike a couple weeks after the massive funeral parade/protest and there were stories of people getting sick.

regardless, how many fk'n died?!!!

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