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NAIA-style districts for NCAA Division I schools
Yep, I decided to be a meanie and broke up all but one D-I conference and put them in old NAIA-style districts: Here are the results:

District 1 Boston College, Boston University, Holy Cross, Maine, UMass, UMass Lowell, Merrimack, New Hampshire, Northeastern, Vermont
District 2 Bryant, Central Connecticut State, UConn, Fairfield, Hartford, Providence, Quinnipiac, Rhode Island, Sacred Heart. Stony Brook
District 3 Albany, Army, Buffalo, Canisius, Colgate, Marist, Niagara, St. Bonaventure, Siena, Syracuse
District 4 Fordham, Hofstra, Iona, Long Island, Manhattan, NJIT, St. Francis Brooklyn, St. John's, St. Peter's, Wagner
District 5 Drexel, FDU, La Salle, Monmouth, Rider, Rutgers, Saint Joseph's, Seton Hall, Temple, Villanova
District 6 Binghamton, Bucknell, Duquesne, Lafayette, Lehigh, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Robert Morris, St. Francis(PA), West Virginia
District 7 Coppin State, Delaware, Delaware State, Loyola Maryland, UMBC, UMES, Morgan State, Mount St. Mary's, Navy, Towson
District 8 American, George Mason, George Washington, Georgetown, Howard, James Madison, Maryland, Richmond, Virginia, VCU
District 9 Campbell, Duke, East Carolina, Hampton, Norfolk State, UNCW, North Carolina Central, North Carolina State, Old Dominion, William & Mary
District 10 Elon, High Point, Liberty, Longwood, North Carolina, UNCG, North Carolina A&T, Radford, VMI, Virginia Tech
District 11 Appalachian State, Charlotte, Davidson, Gardner-Webb, UNC Asheville, USC Upstate, Wake Forest, Western Carolina, Winthrop, Wofford
District 12 Charleston, Charleston Southern, The Citadel, Clemson, Coastal Carolina, Furman, Georgia Southern, Presbyterian, South Carolina, South Carolina State
District 13 Auburn, Florida, Florida A&M, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia State, Georgia Tech, Jacksonville State, Kennesaw State, Mercer
District 14 Bethune-Cookman, UCF, Florida Atlantic, FGCU, FIU, Jacksonville, Miami(FL), North Florida, South Florida, Stetson
District 15 Alabama, UAB, Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, North Alabama, Samford, South Alabama, Troy
District 16 Austin Peay, Belmont, Chattanooga, Lipscomb, Memphis, Middle Tennessee, UT Martin, Tennessee State, Tennessee Tech, Vanderbilt
District 17 ETSU, Eastern Kentucky, Kentucky, Marshall, Morehead State, Murray State, Northern Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, Western Kentucky
District 18 Akron, Cincinnati, Cleveland State, Dayton, Kent State, Miami(OH), Ohio State, Wright State, Xavier, Youngstown State
District 19 Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Detroit, Eastern Michigan, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Oakland, Toledo, Western Michigan
District 20 Ball State, Bellarmine, Butler, Evansville, Indiana, IUPUI, Indiana State, Louisville, Purdue, Purdue Fort Wayne
District 21 Bradley, Chicago State, DePaul, Eastern Illinois, Illinois, UIC, Illinois State, Loyola Chicago, Northwestern, Valparaiso
District 22 Green Bay, Marquette, Milwaukee, Minnesota, North Dakota, North Dakota State, St. Thomas, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Wisconsin
District 23 Creighton, Drake, Iowa, Iowa State, Missouri, Nebraska, Northern Illinois, UNI, Omaha, Western Illinois
District 24 Kansas, Kansas City, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Oral Roberts, SMU, UT-Arlington, Tulsa, Wichita State
District 25 Arkansas, UAPB, Arkansas State, Central Arkansas, Little Rock, Missouri State, Saint Louis, Southeast Missouri State, Southern Illinois, SIUE
District 26 Alcorn State, Grambling, Jackson State, UL-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, Mississippi Valley State, New Orleans, Southeastern Louisiana, Southern Miss, Tulane
District 27 Houston, Lamar, Louisiana, LSU, McNeese State, Nicholls State, Northwestern State, Rice, Southern, Texas Southern
District 28 Houston Baptist, Incarnate Word, Prairie View A&M, Sam Houston State, Stephen F. Austin, UTRGV, UTSA, Texas A&M, TAMU-CC, Texas State
District 29 Abilene Christian, Baylor, New Mexico, New Mexico State, North Texas, Tarleton State, Texas, UTEP, TCU, Texas Tech
District 30 Air Force, Colorado, Colorado State, Denver, Idaho State, Montana, Montana State, Northern Colorado, Utah State, Wyoming
District 31 Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, Dixie State, Grand Canyon, Northern Arizona, Southern Utah, Utah, Utah Valley, Weber State
District 32 UC Irvine, UC Riverside, UC San Diego, California Baptist, Cal State Fullerton, Long Beach State, Loyola Marymount, San Diego, San Diego State, Southern California
District 33UCLA, UCSB, Cal Poly, Cal State Bakersfield, Cal State Northridge, Fresno State, Hawai'i, UNLV, Pacific, Pepperdine
District 34 California, UC Davis, Nevada, Oregon, Sacramento State, Saint Mary's, San Francisco, San Jose State, Santa Clara, Stanford
District 35 Boise State, Eastern Washington, Gonzaga, Idaho, Oregon State, Portland, Portland State, Seattle, Washington, Washington State
Ivy League Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, Yale

C'mon you guys, you think I would voluntarily break the Ivy League up?
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Nah. Siena would want at least one or two New York City area rivals. Getting ‘Cuse at home sounds fun, but not if they’re always in the way of a tourney bid.
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Loved the old NAIA districts. 32 districts, 32 automatic bids to the NAIA national basketball tournament in Kansas City. Had to win 5 games in 6 days to win the national championship. If you had a great team but lost in your district tournament, you stayed home. Rivalries were fierce.

A good chunk of those schools are now in the NCAA, scattered across Divisions I, II, and III. The NAIA is a shadow of its former self, but is bouncing back. It offers small schools a chance to have a lower budget athletic program with a limited number of sports and a limited amount of scholarships. I wish them well.
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(07-24-2020 06:06 PM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  Nah. Siena would want at least one or two New York City area rivals. Getting ‘Cuse at home sounds fun, but not if they’re always in the way of a tourney bid.

Naia districts were assigned, not what a school "wanted" lol.
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(07-24-2020 09:01 PM)johnintx Wrote:  Loved the old NAIA districts. 32 districts, 32 automatic bids to the NAIA national basketball tournament in Kansas City. Had to win 5 games in 6 days to win the national championship. If you had a great team but lost in your district tournament, you stayed home. Rivalries were fierce.

A good chunk of those schools are now in the NCAA, scattered across Divisions I, II, and III. The NAIA is a shadow of its former self, but is bouncing back. It offers small schools a chance to have a lower budget athletic program with a limited number of sports and a limited amount of scholarships. I wish them well.

But many, many Naia schools have HUGE numbers of sports and virtually unlimited scholarships in the way the Ncaa would count them.
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District only bids sucked, and that's why they changed. It wasn't unusual for 2 top 5 teams to beIN the same district, but only 1 got to go to KC.
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To do this right, we also need to assign each school the high schools closest to them geographically, and only allow them to recruit athletes from those high schools. Of course, there would have to be rules preventing parents from moving for the purpose of getting assigned to the "right" university.
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CofC was in the NAIA throughout the 80s. They won a national title during this time in 1983. They made it every year but one from ‘83 to ‘89.

CofC’s district, District 6, basically had all the SC schools playing basketball except for Carolina, Clemson, Furman, Citadel, Baptist College (now Charleston Southern) and SC State. It was very competitive.

Presbyterian, USC Spartanburg (now USC Upstate), Coastal Carolina, USC-Aiken, Francis Marion, Winthrop, Newberry, Erskine, Lander, Voorhees, Allen all played with CofC in this league. Limestone, Claflin, Coker, Morris, Central Wesleyan and Wofford also played there at one time.

The year CofC won the national title, District 6 had 16 teams in their district make the playoffs. They had to win four games in the district tourney just to get in, then the 6 games in the national tourney.

They’d play those games, then Baptist and Citadel (usually twice a year), add in a few non-con games, and that’d be who they play each year.

At one point, NAIA District 6 was 18 teams, and NC’s district (District 26) was 21 teams.
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Need to swap out UAB and Jacksonville State... that makes no sense what so ever...
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(07-25-2020 10:28 AM)sctvman Wrote:  CofC was in the NAIA throughout the 80s. They won a national title during this time in 1983. They made it every year but one from ‘83 to ‘89.

CofC’s district, District 6, basically had all the SC schools playing basketball except for Carolina, Clemson, Furman, Citadel, Baptist College (now Charleston Southern) and SC State. It was very competitive.

Presbyterian, USC Spartanburg (now USC Upstate), Coastal Carolina, USC-Aiken, Francis Marion, Winthrop, Newberry, Erskine, Lander, Voorhees, Allen all played with CofC in this league. Limestone, Claflin, Coker, Morris, Central Wesleyan and Wofford also played there at one time.

The year CofC won the national title, District 6 had 16 teams in their district make the playoffs. They had to win four games in the district tourney just to get in, then the 6 games in the national tourney.

They’d play those games, then Baptist and Citadel (usually twice a year), add in a few non-con games, and that’d be who they play each year.

At one point, NAIA District 6 was 18 teams, and NC’s district (District 26) was 21 teams.

I remember when College of Charleston won the NAIA national championship!

Yes, the districts were primarily based on state lines. District 9 in Oklahoma had as many as 17 teams. District 10 in Kansas had even more. There were usually multiple conferences in each district, but postseason was determined through the district. Each district determined its own qualification system to qualify for the postseason tournament. For example, our district used the Dunkel ratings most years. It was funky.

Yes, good teams had to stay home from the national tournament, and that is why the system had to be changed. The old system made for higher stakes and intense local rivalries, but at-large bids increased the quality of the national tournament and rewarded quality teams.
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Just finished updating my original post, and yes, the Ivy League remains the same. Though you would've noticed in the first 6 districts or so.
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(07-25-2020 10:28 AM)sctvman Wrote:  CofC was in the NAIA throughout the 80s. They won a national title during this time in 1983. They made it every year but one from ‘83 to ‘89.

CofC’s district, District 6, basically had all the SC schools playing basketball except for Carolina, Clemson, Furman, Citadel, Baptist College (now Charleston Southern) and SC State. It was very competitive.

Presbyterian, USC Spartanburg (now USC Upstate), Coastal Carolina, USC-Aiken, Francis Marion, Winthrop, Newberry, Erskine, Lander, Voorhees, Allen all played with CofC in this league. Limestone, Claflin, Coker, Morris, Central Wesleyan and Wofford also played there at one time.

The year CofC won the national title, District 6 had 16 teams in their district make the playoffs. They had to win four games in the district tourney just to get in, then the 6 games in the national tourney.

They’d play those games, then Baptist and Citadel (usually twice a year), add in a few non-con games, and that’d be who they play each year.

At one point, NAIA District 6 was 18 teams, and NC’s district (District 26) was 21 teams.

A lot of districts were huge but had separate DI and DII qualifiers for some of the years.
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Wow we got screwed
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(07-27-2020 06:59 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Wow we got screwed

Yeah, RIP Southern. Looking over the fence at all the fun in District 13 while they're stuck in 12.

Generally curious, since I'm not familiar, but what is/was the criteria for NAIA districts?
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(07-27-2020 08:55 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Generally curious, since I'm not familiar, but what is/was the criteria for NAIA districts?

NAIA districts were driven solely by geography. There was no hard cap on number of schools in a district. They mostly kept all schools within a certain state together. As mentioned in the example above, the SC district had 16 schools, while the NC district had upwards of 21 schools. Generally, all of the schools within one state were in one district, except for cases where there were few NAIA schools in a state. Some states with fewer NAIA schools were combined.

There were conferences in this system, as well. A district could have multiple conferences. However, playoff qualification was channeled through the districts.

The NAIA no longer operates under a district system, but solely with conferences.

In the old days, only district champions qualified for the NAIA national tournament. If there were two highly ranked teams that happened to be in the same district, only one advanced. The district system was dumped in favor of a conference qualification system with automatic and at-large bids.
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The top 16 teams would get seeded into the event, then there would be the rest of the teams. In ‘83, a district champ was kicked out, so West Virginia Wesleyan took their place even though they didn’t win their district.

Starting this year (2020-21, if there is a season), the NAIA championships will be expanded to 64, but only the winners of the 16 regional sites will play in Kansas City.

The NAIA was 32 teams as far back as 1938 in KC, before the NCAAs even started.
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(07-27-2020 11:39 AM)sctvman Wrote:  The top 16 teams would get seeded into the event, then there would be the rest of the teams. In ‘83, a district champ was kicked out, so West Virginia Wesleyan took their place even though they didn’t win their district.

Starting this year (2020-21, if there is a season), the NAIA championships will be expanded to 64, but only the winners of the 16 regional sites will play in Kansas City.

The NAIA was 32 teams as far back as 1938 in KC, before the NCAAs even started.

Nobody I've talked to is in favor of the new format, including me. But I admit it has potential. Their goal is for the opening round tournaments to be hosted by local organizers, not schools, in nice arenas and attract big crowds. They have that so far in 2 locations in the Kansas area and one in Alexandria LA. They've got a ways to go. The key will be on if they follow through on making sure top local teams aren't placed into the same region. When the plan came out they were committed to that. Recently, because of COVID 19, they are waffling. On more sports than basketball. The baseball coaches rebelled and found a way to get them to recommit to the original plan. I hope the others do too.
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Whipped up my own and tried to keep it within state borders. Delaware kind of tripped me up a bit. I can see why this was such a bad idea.

District 1 (Arkansas and Oklahoma): 9 teams
Arkansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Tulsa, Arkansas State, UALR, UAPB, UCA, Oral Roberts
District 2 (Kansas, Nebraska, and Missouri): 11 teams
Kansas, Kansas State, Wichita State, Missouri, UMKC, Saint Louis, Missouri State, SE Missouri State, Nebraska, Creighton, Omaha
District 3 (Illinois): 13 teams
Bradley, Chicago State, DePaul, Eastern Illinios, UIC, Illinois, Illinois St., Loyola-Chicago, NIU, Northwestern, Southern Illinois, SIU-Edwardsville, Western Illinois
District 4 (Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa): 10 teams
Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Iowa State, Drake, Northern Iowa, St. Thomas, UW-Milwaukee, UW-Green Bay, Marquette
District 5 (Coastal/East Texas): 12 teams
Houston, Texas A&M, Texas Southern, Rice, Baylor, Sam Houston St., Stephen F. Austin, PVAMU, Lamar, A&M-CC, UTRGV, Houston Baptist
District 6 (North/Central/West Texas): 12 teams
SMU, TCU, N. Texas, Texas Tech, Texas, Texas State, UT-Arlington, UTEP, UTSA, Incarnate Word, Abilene Christian, Tarleton St.
District 7 (Dakotas, Montana, Idaho): 10 teams
North Dakota, North Dakota State, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Montana, Montana State, Idaho, Idaho State, Boise State, Augustana
District 8 (Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming): 8 teams
Colorado, Colorado State, Denver, N. Colorado, Air Force, Wyoming, New Mexico, New Mexico State
District 9 (Arizona, Nevada, Utah): 13 teams
Arizona, Arizona State, Northern Arizona, Grand Canyon, Nevada, UNLV, Utah, Utah State, Southern Utah, BYU, Weber State, Utah Valley, Dixie State
District 10 (Washington, Oregon, Hawaii): 10 teams
Washington, Washington State, Gonzaga, Eastern Washington, Seattle, Oregon, Oregon State, Portland, Portland State, Hawaii
District 11 (Northern/Central California): 12 teams
California, UC-Davis, Cal Poly, Fresno State, Stanford, San Jose State, Santa Clara, San Francisco, St. Mary's, Sacramento State, CS-Bakersfield, Pacific
District 12 (Southern California): 14 teams
USC, UCLA, UC-Irvine, UC-Riverside, UC-Santa Barbara, CS-Fullerton, Long Beach, CS-Northridge, Loyola Marymount, Pepperdine, San Diego, San Diego State, Cal Baptist, UC-San Diego
District 13 (Indiana): 10 teams
Notre Dame, Indiana, Purdue, PU-Fort Wayne, IUPUI, Butler, Ball State, Indiana State, Evansville, Valparaiso
District 14 (Michigan): 7 teams
Michigan, Michigan State, Detroit, Oakland, Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan
District 15 (Ohio): 13 teams
Akron, Bowling Green, Toledo, Wright St., Dayton, Cincinnati, Ohio State, Ohio, Kent St., Akron, Miami-OH, Youngstown St., Xavier
District 16 (Kentucky, West Virginia): 10 teams
Kentucky, Louisville, West Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, Western Kentucky, Marshall, Murray State, Morehead State, Northern Kentucky, Bellarmine
District 17 (Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont): 12 teams
UMass, UMass-Lowell, Merrimack, Boston College, Boston U. Harvard, Northeastern, Holy Cross, Vermont, Dartmouth, New Hampshire, Maine
District 18 (Louisiana): 12 teams
LSU, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana, UL-Monroe, Tulane, McNeese St., Northwestern St., Grambling St., Southern, New Orleans, Nicholls St., SE Louisiana
District 19 (Mississippi/W. Tennessee): 13 teams
Mississippi, Mississippi St., MVSU, Southern Miss, Jackson St., Alcorn St., Memphis, Vanderbilt, Belmont, Lipscomb, Austin Peay, MTSU, UT Martin
District 20 (Alabama): 10 teams
Alabama, Auburn, Alabama St., Alabama A&M, Jacksonville St., N. Alabama, S. Alabama, UAB, Samford, Troy
District 21 (Florida): 13 teams
Florida, Florida St., Miami, FIU, FAU, FGCU, USF, UCF, UNF, Florida A&M, Bethune-Cookman, Jacksonville, Stetson
District 22 (Georgia/E. Tennessee ): 11 teams
Georgia, Georgia Tech, Georgia St., Georgia Southern, Kennesaw St., Tennessee, Tennessee State, Chattanooga, ETSU, Tennessee Tech, Mercer
District 23 (South Carolina): 12 teams
South Carolina, Clemson, CofC, Coastal Carolina, Furman, Citadel, Charleston Southern, Presbyterian, S. Carolina St., USC-Upstate, Winthrop, Wofford
District 24 (W. North Carolina): 9 teams
Appalachian St., Davidson, Gardner-Webb, UNC-Asheville, UNC-Charlotte, Wake Forest, High Point, Elon, Western Carolina
District 25 (E. North Carolina): 9 teams
North Carolina, NC State, Duke, East Carolina, UNC-Wilmington, Campbell UNC-Greensboro, NC A&T, NC-Central
District 26 (Virginia): 14 teams
Virginia, Virginia Tech, Liberty, VMI, Richmond, James Madison, VCU, Norfolk St., Old Dominion, Hampton, George Mason, Longwood, Radford, William & Mary
District 27 (DC & Maryland): 13 teams
American, Georgetown, George Washington, Howard, Maryland, UMES, UMBC, Navy, Morgan State, Mt. St. Mary's, Towson, Loyola-Maryland, Coppin St.
District 28 (Pennsylvania): 14 teams
Villanova, Temple, La Salle, Penn, Drexel, St. Joe's, Bucknell, Duquesne, Lafayette, Lehigh, Penn St., Pittsburgh, Robert Morris, St. Francis (PA)
District 29 (Connecticut & Rhode Island): 11 teams
UConn, CCSU, Hartford, Yale, Fairfield, Sacred Heart, Quinnipiac, Brown, Bryant, Providence, Rhode Island
District 30 (New Jersey & Delaware): 10 teams
Rutgers, Seton Hall, Fairleigh Dickinson, Rider, Princeton, NJIT, St. Peter's, Monmouth, Delaware, Delaware St.
District 31 (NYC Metro): 11 teams
Columbia, Fordham, Hofstra, Iona, LIU, Manhattan, St. Francis (NY), St. John's, Stony Brook, Army, Wagner
District 32 (Upstate NY): 11 teams
Albany, Binghamton, Buffalo, Canisius, Colgate, Cornell, Niagara, St. Bonaventure, Syracuse, Siena, Marist
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If you guys want to do this right you need to use the original NAIA districts:

https://sites.google.com/site/naiahistor...ganization
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(07-27-2020 11:54 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  If you guys want to do this right you need to use the original NAIA districts:

https://sites.google.com/site/naiahistor...ganization
A 27-team District 3 and a 3-team District 11 seems kind of silly.
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