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(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:24 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:04 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 10:51 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Do you have some kind of point you're trying to make?

Yeah, if you're going to **** on where I live, at least don't hide where you live that's so great.

Since I don't live in either Lynchburg or Philadelphia, where I live is irrelevant to those two locations that are being compared here. The reasons they are being compared is because some people have mentioned Temple and Liberty Universities which brought their locals into the discussion.

Big cities such as Philadelphia aren't for everybody, but they certainly are for some. Same can be said for smaller cities like Lynchburg and more rural areas as well. Some people like the hustle and bustle, and some don't. I don't think anyone prefers higher crime, higher prices, heavy traffic, etc., but some are more willing to put up with that than others just to experience some of the things that the biggest cities often provide (i.e. major sports teams, museums, fine dining, big name hotels, etc.).

I've had a lot of experience with big cities across the country and in different parts of the world. I've spent weeks at a time for work in big cities such as (Charleston; Los Angeles; Long Beach; New Orleans; San Diego; San Francisco; Sasebo, Japan; Seattle area; Singapore; and Yokosuka, Japan) since the mid 80's - and most of them I've been to multiple times. During the same time period I've spent up to a week at a time in big cities such as (Baltimore; Cleveland; Fukuoka, Japan; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; Providence; and Washington DC). Without getting specific, some of those were much more enjoyable to be in than others for a variety of reasons. Those more enjoyable places were the ones I always looked forward to visiting again when work necessitated me going there. My favorite work destination was a smaller city on the Mississippi Gulf Coast which I have been to at least a dozen times. Now that I am retired we get to go there just for the fun of it, and as soon as things get back to normal we plan on going back for another visit.

Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

It has been over 10 years since I have been and almost 20 since I lived there, but there were a few nice neighborhoods - Manayunk and Mt. Airey but they are more suburban, the old colonial area which was probably the only part of town commanding these prices, and the area immediately surrounding the art museum.

Philly, like any other city, has both nice parts of town and dilapidated parts of town. And every city has some great people while others suck to the Nth degree. But can you imagine caring so much about defending your city, to argue about it on another teams message board for multiple posts? Log off, bro. Get outside and enjoy your city.

(07-20-2020 08:51 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 08:40 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-16-2020 10:37 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  If one would tour Liberty, you would quickly find tremendous facilities and a vibrant campus. Fully understanding that the college is not everyone's cup of tea, but this school is primed to be successful and investing in infrastructure to make it happen.

You'd be willing to date somebody that was good looking but made your life miserable?

So every woman from Liberty would make a man miserable? Not getting your point? Or the convocation requirement? That is actually a "positive" in some people's perspective. Just because you are not in favor of it, does not mean that others are inclined to feel the same way. I am not in favor of the liberal indoctrination that has taken over most college campuses, but if that is where someone wants to fit in, not my place to discourage them.
Sorry, in the current environment, the hive and me are at odds and not seeing things the same way, so I choose otherwise. That does not make me right and you wrong, nor does that make either of us horrible people. We just disagree, and that used to be respected with dignity and class not too long ago.

The case for Liberty is that they have money and are local to our area.

The case against is that they are viewed as a diploma mill with lots of political baggage. It's graduates post on forums about their difficulties getting jobs. I interviewed with companies in Lynchburg who told me that they recruit from ODU and VT and will NOT ever consider looking at Liberty for talent.

I can understand the case for taking their money from time to time. I'm not happy about gold digging. However to willingly hang out partner with an institution with so many negatives is a bad path to take.

We can disagree. I fully support that and applaud that. But if your kid was hanging out with the school bully or the mean girls because they thought they would look cool or would somehow get ahead in life, I'm sure you'd have words to share with them about life choices.

(07-21-2020 09:39 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Philly, like any other city, has both nice parts of town and dilapidated parts of town. And every city has some great people while others suck to the Nth degree. But can you imagine caring so much about defending your city, to argue about it on another teams message board for multiple posts? Log off, bro. Get outside and enjoy your city.

Nothing like a mod telling other people what to do, bro.

(07-21-2020 08:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It has been over 10 years since I have been and almost 20 since I lived there, but there were a few nice neighborhoods - Manayunk and Mt. Airey but they are more suburban, the old colonial area which was probably the only part of town commanding these prices, and the area immediately surrounding the art museum.

I can tell it's been that long, because your post is way off. The 'old colonial area' is Old City, and while it's nice, it's far from the nicest area of the city, and definitely not the one commanding $2M+ for real estate. The area surrounding the Art Museum (which, surrounding doesn't make sense, because one side of it is the Schuylkill) is Fairmount and Spring Garden, which is 'gentrified' and probably wasn't terribly nice 10-20 years ago.

(07-21-2020 11:39 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 09:39 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Philly, like any other city, has both nice parts of town and dilapidated parts of town. And every city has some great people while others suck to the Nth degree. But can you imagine caring so much about defending your city, to argue about it on another teams message board for multiple posts? Log off, bro. Get outside and enjoy your city.

Nothing like a mod telling other people what to do, bro.

It’s merely a suggestion. Waste your time however you want.

But if we’re going to talk about Philly, someone has to share this classic.

(07-21-2020 11:43 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 08:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It has been over 10 years since I have been and almost 20 since I lived there, but there were a few nice neighborhoods - Manayunk and Mt. Airey but they are more suburban, the old colonial area which was probably the only part of town commanding these prices, and the area immediately surrounding the art museum.

I can tell it's been that long, because your post is way off. The 'old colonial area' is Old City, and while it's nice, it's far from the nicest area of the city, and definitely not the one commanding $2M+ for real estate. The area surrounding the Art Museum (which, surrounding doesn't make sense, because one side of it is the Schuylkill) is Fairmount and Spring Garden, which is 'gentrified' and probably wasn't terribly nice 10-20 years ago.

Looked at the map and the section I was referring to is called Society Hill... I don't see "Old City", but perhaps they are one in the same. Area surrounding the Art Museum was fine... definitely not $2M fine, but I would have lived there. I used to jog West River, through the museum land itself, and to Kelly Ave and the old bridge to make a loop. Now leave the park grounds toward the zoo and Drexel/Penn and that area was a schithole. The other side of the river was better... not great, but acceptable. Last time I was there we saw concert at the amphitheatre in the park, which I am a big fan of. It Pat's after the show and I was a bit disappointed in how far downhill South Philly had gone... it was acceptable when I lived there. Northeast was also acceptable (not great), but would have no reason to head that way again. Is it still ok? Where I actually lived was Overbrook, which appeared to be about 30 years past its heyday. Was fine when I was 20 years old... close to Manayunk where we tended to party, but I would not live there in this stage of my life. I don't think I'd live anywhere within the city limite at this stage in my life... maybe Mt. Airy if I had a few million in my bank account for a mansion on some acreage and private schools.

(07-21-2020 12:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 11:43 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 08:31 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  It has been over 10 years since I have been and almost 20 since I lived there, but there were a few nice neighborhoods - Manayunk and Mt. Airey but they are more suburban, the old colonial area which was probably the only part of town commanding these prices, and the area immediately surrounding the art museum.

I can tell it's been that long, because your post is way off. The 'old colonial area' is Old City, and while it's nice, it's far from the nicest area of the city, and definitely not the one commanding $2M+ for real estate. The area surrounding the Art Museum (which, surrounding doesn't make sense, because one side of it is the Schuylkill) is Fairmount and Spring Garden, which is 'gentrified' and probably wasn't terribly nice 10-20 years ago.

Looked at the map and the section I was referring to is called Society Hill... I don't see "Old City", but perhaps they are one in the same. Area surrounding the Art Museum was fine... definitely not $2M fine, but I would have lived there. I used to jog West River, through the museum land itself, and to Kelly Ave and the old bridge to make a loop. Now leave the park grounds toward the zoo and Drexel/Penn and that area was a schithole. The other side of the river was better... not great, but acceptable. Last time I was there we saw concert at the amphitheatre in the park, which I am a big fan of. It Pat's after the show and I was a bit disappointed in how far downhill South Philly had gone... it was acceptable when I lived there. Northeast was also acceptable (not great), but would have no reason to head that way again. Is it still ok? Where I actually lived was Overbrook, which appeared to be about 30 years past its heyday. Was fine when I was 20 years old... close to Manayunk where we tended to party, but I would not live there in this stage of my life. I don't think I'd live anywhere within the city limite at this stage in my life... maybe Mt. Airy if I had a few million in my bank account for a mansion on some acreage and private schools.

Old City is the neighborhood on the Delaware River near the Liberty Bell and all the historic stuff. Yes, Society Hill is one of the top 3 neighborhoods in the city.

It's been a while, because University City and South Philly are mostly very nice. South Philly real estate has been hot for the last 8-10 years. The only really ****** areas are mostly the closest areas to the stadiums, which has never been developed much.

There is nothing redeeming about NE Philly. It's basically just a giant suburb.

Overbrook is 30 years beyond its heyday. My dad grew up there. It used to be a nice Jewish area. Now it's crime ridden and dilapidated other than Overbrook Farms. I grew up on the other side of City Line.

I think you'd be pretty happy in Chestnut Hill, which is technically the city, but feels more like a suburb, and the median listing price is $1.3M.

(07-20-2020 08:51 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 08:40 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-16-2020 10:37 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  If one would tour Liberty, you would quickly find tremendous facilities and a vibrant campus. Fully understanding that the college is not everyone's cup of tea, but this school is primed to be successful and investing in infrastructure to make it happen.

You'd be willing to date somebody that was good looking but made your life miserable?

So every woman from Liberty would make a man miserable? Not getting your point? Or the convocation requirement? That is actually a "positive" in some people's perspective. Just because you are not in favor of it, does not mean that others are inclined to feel the same way. I am not in favor of the liberal indoctrination that has taken over most college campuses, but if that is where someone wants to fit in, not my place to discourage them.
Sorry, in the current environment, the hive and me are at odds and not seeing things the same way, so I choose otherwise. That does not make me right and you wrong, nor does that make either of us horrible people. We just disagree, and that used to be respected with dignity and class not too long ago.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have always thought of colleges and universities as being liberal by nature. Nothing new about that. Indoctrination is obviously over stated, unless you want to include the religious perspective of Liberty as indoctrination as well.

(07-21-2020 06:23 PM)VB Monarch Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:51 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 08:40 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(07-16-2020 10:37 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  If one would tour Liberty, you would quickly find tremendous facilities and a vibrant campus. Fully understanding that the college is not everyone's cup of tea, but this school is primed to be successful and investing in infrastructure to make it happen.

You'd be willing to date somebody that was good looking but made your life miserable?

So every woman from Liberty would make a man miserable? Not getting your point? Or the convocation requirement? That is actually a "positive" in some people's perspective. Just because you are not in favor of it, does not mean that others are inclined to feel the same way. I am not in favor of the liberal indoctrination that has taken over most college campuses, but if that is where someone wants to fit in, not my place to discourage them.
Sorry, in the current environment, the hive and me are at odds and not seeing things the same way, so I choose otherwise. That does not make me right and you wrong, nor does that make either of us horrible people. We just disagree, and that used to be respected with dignity and class not too long ago.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have always thought of colleges and universities as being liberal by nature. Nothing new about that. Indoctrination is obviously over stated, unless you want to include the religious perspective of Liberty as indoctrination as well.

Sorry but far from it. You should hear what has gone on by teachers and other leaders on Campus.

(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:24 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:04 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 10:51 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Do you have some kind of point you're trying to make?

Yeah, if you're going to **** on where I live, at least don't hide where you live that's so great.

Since I don't live in either Lynchburg or Philadelphia, where I live is irrelevant to those two locations that are being compared here. The reasons they are being compared is because some people have mentioned Temple and Liberty Universities which brought their locals into the discussion.

Big cities such as Philadelphia aren't for everybody, but they certainly are for some. Same can be said for smaller cities like Lynchburg and more rural areas as well. Some people like the hustle and bustle, and some don't. I don't think anyone prefers higher crime, higher prices, heavy traffic, etc., but some are more willing to put up with that than others just to experience some of the things that the biggest cities often provide (i.e. major sports teams, museums, fine dining, big name hotels, etc.).

I've had a lot of experience with big cities across the country and in different parts of the world. I've spent weeks at a time for work in big cities such as (Charleston; Los Angeles; Long Beach; New Orleans; San Diego; San Francisco; Sasebo, Japan; Seattle area; Singapore; and Yokosuka, Japan) since the mid 80's - and most of them I've been to multiple times. During the same time period I've spent up to a week at a time in big cities such as (Baltimore; Cleveland; Fukuoka, Japan; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; Providence; and Washington DC). Without getting specific, some of those were much more enjoyable to be in than others for a variety of reasons. Those more enjoyable places were the ones I always looked forward to visiting again when work necessitated me going there. My favorite work destination was a smaller city on the Mississippi Gulf Coast which I have been to at least a dozen times. Now that I am retired we get to go there just for the fun of it, and as soon as things get back to normal we plan on going back for another visit.

Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

I know Philly extremely well. My best friend lives in Philly and I visit him often - and have visited for work several times. Be proud of your city...but cesspool is kind - it’s a s-hole! It’s the only place I have seen a kids’ play area essentially caged in; trash bags on the streets; burned out cars on the street; drug deals in plain view; my friend who has to put his kids in private school b/c public is god awful. But be proud of your city! And, yes, Virginia is that much better.

(07-21-2020 08:40 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:24 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:04 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Yeah, if you're going to **** on where I live, at least don't hide where you live that's so great.

Since I don't live in either Lynchburg or Philadelphia, where I live is irrelevant to those two locations that are being compared here. The reasons they are being compared is because some people have mentioned Temple and Liberty Universities which brought their locals into the discussion.

Big cities such as Philadelphia aren't for everybody, but they certainly are for some. Same can be said for smaller cities like Lynchburg and more rural areas as well. Some people like the hustle and bustle, and some don't. I don't think anyone prefers higher crime, higher prices, heavy traffic, etc., but some are more willing to put up with that than others just to experience some of the things that the biggest cities often provide (i.e. major sports teams, museums, fine dining, big name hotels, etc.).

I've had a lot of experience with big cities across the country and in different parts of the world. I've spent weeks at a time for work in big cities such as (Charleston; Los Angeles; Long Beach; New Orleans; San Diego; San Francisco; Sasebo, Japan; Seattle area; Singapore; and Yokosuka, Japan) since the mid 80's - and most of them I've been to multiple times. During the same time period I've spent up to a week at a time in big cities such as (Baltimore; Cleveland; Fukuoka, Japan; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; Providence; and Washington DC). Without getting specific, some of those were much more enjoyable to be in than others for a variety of reasons. Those more enjoyable places were the ones I always looked forward to visiting again when work necessitated me going there. My favorite work destination was a smaller city on the Mississippi Gulf Coast which I have been to at least a dozen times. Now that I am retired we get to go there just for the fun of it, and as soon as things get back to normal we plan on going back for another visit.

Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

I know Philly extremely well. My best friend lives in Philly and I visit him often - and have visited for work several times. Be proud of your city...but cesspool is kind - it’s a s-hole! It’s the only place I have seen a kids’ play area essentially caged in; trash bags on the streets; burned out cars on the street; drug deals in plain view; my friend who has to put his kids in private school b/c public is god awful. But be proud of your city! And, yes, Virginia is that much better.

I've lived in the city proper for 12 years and seen none of that, so I don't believe you. You best friend sounds very poor if he encounters that, so no wonder his kid are in private school.

FYI, city public schools are awful in every single large city in the country. We do happen to have two elite public schools in the city, so tell your friend it's too bad his kids didn't get into Central or Masterman.

(07-21-2020 08:40 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:24 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:04 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Yeah, if you're going to **** on where I live, at least don't hide where you live that's so great.

Since I don't live in either Lynchburg or Philadelphia, where I live is irrelevant to those two locations that are being compared here. The reasons they are being compared is because some people have mentioned Temple and Liberty Universities which brought their locals into the discussion.

Big cities such as Philadelphia aren't for everybody, but they certainly are for some. Same can be said for smaller cities like Lynchburg and more rural areas as well. Some people like the hustle and bustle, and some don't. I don't think anyone prefers higher crime, higher prices, heavy traffic, etc., but some are more willing to put up with that than others just to experience some of the things that the biggest cities often provide (i.e. major sports teams, museums, fine dining, big name hotels, etc.).

I've had a lot of experience with big cities across the country and in different parts of the world. I've spent weeks at a time for work in big cities such as (Charleston; Los Angeles; Long Beach; New Orleans; San Diego; San Francisco; Sasebo, Japan; Seattle area; Singapore; and Yokosuka, Japan) since the mid 80's - and most of them I've been to multiple times. During the same time period I've spent up to a week at a time in big cities such as (Baltimore; Cleveland; Fukuoka, Japan; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; Providence; and Washington DC). Without getting specific, some of those were much more enjoyable to be in than others for a variety of reasons. Those more enjoyable places were the ones I always looked forward to visiting again when work necessitated me going there. My favorite work destination was a smaller city on the Mississippi Gulf Coast which I have been to at least a dozen times. Now that I am retired we get to go there just for the fun of it, and as soon as things get back to normal we plan on going back for another visit.

Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

I know Philly extremely well. My best friend lives in Philly and I visit him often - and have visited for work several times. Be proud of your city...but cesspool is kind - it’s a s-hole! It’s the only place I have seen a kids’ play area essentially caged in; trash bags on the streets; burned out cars on the street; drug deals in plain view; my friend who has to put his kids in private school b/c public is god awful. But be proud of your city! And, yes, Virginia is that much better.

Lynchburg may not have the Urban issues that Philly does, but it is a **** Hole in its own right. Lots of poverty, lots of inequity, and I have seen drug deals on the streets of Lynchburg just as often as I have on the streets of Philadelphia. And don't get me started on schools. Like Maury, Granby, Lake Taylor, BTW, and Norview are bastions of advanced learning. HA! The public schools in most of Virginia are no better than anywhere else, and in some cases are much worse.

Mod edit; changing the spelling of words to bypass the profanity filter is against the AUP.

You Pennsylvania folks sure are touchy about your cities. As long as you like where you live, who cares what anyone else thinks?

(07-21-2020 10:00 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 08:40 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:24 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Since I don't live in either Lynchburg or Philadelphia, where I live is irrelevant to those two locations that are being compared here. The reasons they are being compared is because some people have mentioned Temple and Liberty Universities which brought their locals into the discussion.

Big cities such as Philadelphia aren't for everybody, but they certainly are for some. Same can be said for smaller cities like Lynchburg and more rural areas as well. Some people like the hustle and bustle, and some don't. I don't think anyone prefers higher crime, higher prices, heavy traffic, etc., but some are more willing to put up with that than others just to experience some of the things that the biggest cities often provide (i.e. major sports teams, museums, fine dining, big name hotels, etc.).

I've had a lot of experience with big cities across the country and in different parts of the world. I've spent weeks at a time for work in big cities such as (Charleston; Los Angeles; Long Beach; New Orleans; San Diego; San Francisco; Sasebo, Japan; Seattle area; Singapore; and Yokosuka, Japan) since the mid 80's - and most of them I've been to multiple times. During the same time period I've spent up to a week at a time in big cities such as (Baltimore; Cleveland; Fukuoka, Japan; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; Providence; and Washington DC). Without getting specific, some of those were much more enjoyable to be in than others for a variety of reasons. Those more enjoyable places were the ones I always looked forward to visiting again when work necessitated me going there. My favorite work destination was a smaller city on the Mississippi Gulf Coast which I have been to at least a dozen times. Now that I am retired we get to go there just for the fun of it, and as soon as things get back to normal we plan on going back for another visit.

Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

I know Philly extremely well. My best friend lives in Philly and I visit him often - and have visited for work several times. Be proud of your city...but cesspool is kind - it’s a s-hole! It’s the only place I have seen a kids’ play area essentially caged in; trash bags on the streets; burned out cars on the street; drug deals in plain view; my friend who has to put his kids in private school b/c public is god awful. But be proud of your city! And, yes, Virginia is that much better.

Lynchburg may not have the Urban issues that Philly does, but it is a **** Hole in its own right. Lots of poverty, lots of inequity, and I have seen drug deals on the streets of Lynchburg just as often as I have on the streets of Philadelphia. And don't get me started on schools. Like Maury, Granby, Lake Taylor, BTW, and Norview are bastions of advanced learning. HA! The public schools in most of Virginia are no better than anywhere else, and in some cases are much worse.

Mod edit; changing the spelling of words to bypass the profanity filter is against the AUP.

Public schools in Newport News are good if you know how to work the system (magnets, administrative transfers based on lack of access to classes or programs). If you stick to your zoned schools, however, you will have a ****** school at some point no matter where you live.


Mod edit; stop changing the spelling of words to bypass the profanity filter. It’s against the AUP.

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(07-21-2020 10:40 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  You Pennsylvania folks sure are touchy about your cities. As long as you like where you live, who cares what anyone else thinks?

I freaking HATE Philly and Pennsylvania. I live here because I have to. I just don't think anyone who spends enough time in Lynchburg, which I have, can say that it is some sort of utopia. As I said, go hang out in Downtown Lynchburg, it has the same issues as Philly or any other city. And it has Liberty YUCK

(07-21-2020 10:00 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 08:40 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:24 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Since I don't live in either Lynchburg or Philadelphia, where I live is irrelevant to those two locations that are being compared here. The reasons they are being compared is because some people have mentioned Temple and Liberty Universities which brought their locals into the discussion.

Big cities such as Philadelphia aren't for everybody, but they certainly are for some. Same can be said for smaller cities like Lynchburg and more rural areas as well. Some people like the hustle and bustle, and some don't. I don't think anyone prefers higher crime, higher prices, heavy traffic, etc., but some are more willing to put up with that than others just to experience some of the things that the biggest cities often provide (i.e. major sports teams, museums, fine dining, big name hotels, etc.).

I've had a lot of experience with big cities across the country and in different parts of the world. I've spent weeks at a time for work in big cities such as (Charleston; Los Angeles; Long Beach; New Orleans; San Diego; San Francisco; Sasebo, Japan; Seattle area; Singapore; and Yokosuka, Japan) since the mid 80's - and most of them I've been to multiple times. During the same time period I've spent up to a week at a time in big cities such as (Baltimore; Cleveland; Fukuoka, Japan; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; Providence; and Washington DC). Without getting specific, some of those were much more enjoyable to be in than others for a variety of reasons. Those more enjoyable places were the ones I always looked forward to visiting again when work necessitated me going there. My favorite work destination was a smaller city on the Mississippi Gulf Coast which I have been to at least a dozen times. Now that I am retired we get to go there just for the fun of it, and as soon as things get back to normal we plan on going back for another visit.

Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

I know Philly extremely well. My best friend lives in Philly and I visit him often - and have visited for work several times. Be proud of your city...but cesspool is kind - it’s a s-hole! It’s the only place I have seen a kids’ play area essentially caged in; trash bags on the streets; burned out cars on the street; drug deals in plain view; my friend who has to put his kids in private school b/c public is god awful. But be proud of your city! And, yes, Virginia is that much better.

Lynchburg may not have the Urban issues that Philly does, but it is a **** Hole in its own right. Lots of poverty, lots of inequity, and I have seen drug deals on the streets of Lynchburg just as often as I have on the streets of Philadelphia. And don't get me started on schools. Like Maury, Granby, Lake Taylor, BTW, and Norview are bastions of advanced learning. HA! The public schools in most of Virginia are no better than anywhere else, and in some cases are much worse.

Mod edit; changing the spelling of words to bypass the profanity filter is against the AUP.

I was in Lynchburg for the first time a week ago to pick up a puppy from a breeder. We stayed at the Craddock Terry Hotel. I thought the city was charming.

(07-21-2020 09:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 08:40 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 01:24 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Since I don't live in either Lynchburg or Philadelphia, where I live is irrelevant to those two locations that are being compared here. The reasons they are being compared is because some people have mentioned Temple and Liberty Universities which brought their locals into the discussion.

Big cities such as Philadelphia aren't for everybody, but they certainly are for some. Same can be said for smaller cities like Lynchburg and more rural areas as well. Some people like the hustle and bustle, and some don't. I don't think anyone prefers higher crime, higher prices, heavy traffic, etc., but some are more willing to put up with that than others just to experience some of the things that the biggest cities often provide (i.e. major sports teams, museums, fine dining, big name hotels, etc.).

I've had a lot of experience with big cities across the country and in different parts of the world. I've spent weeks at a time for work in big cities such as (Charleston; Los Angeles; Long Beach; New Orleans; San Diego; San Francisco; Sasebo, Japan; Seattle area; Singapore; and Yokosuka, Japan) since the mid 80's - and most of them I've been to multiple times. During the same time period I've spent up to a week at a time in big cities such as (Baltimore; Cleveland; Fukuoka, Japan; Las Vegas; Philadelphia; Providence; and Washington DC). Without getting specific, some of those were much more enjoyable to be in than others for a variety of reasons. Those more enjoyable places were the ones I always looked forward to visiting again when work necessitated me going there. My favorite work destination was a smaller city on the Mississippi Gulf Coast which I have been to at least a dozen times. Now that I am retired we get to go there just for the fun of it, and as soon as things get back to normal we plan on going back for another visit.

Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

I know Philly extremely well. My best friend lives in Philly and I visit him often - and have visited for work several times. Be proud of your city...but cesspool is kind - it’s a s-hole! It’s the only place I have seen a kids’ play area essentially caged in; trash bags on the streets; burned out cars on the street; drug deals in plain view; my friend who has to put his kids in private school b/c public is god awful. But be proud of your city! And, yes, Virginia is that much better.

I've lived in the city proper for 12 years and seen none of that, so I don't believe you. You best friend sounds very poor if he encounters that, so no wonder his kid are in private school.

FYI, city public schools are awful in every single large city in the country. We do happen to have two elite public schools in the city, so tell your friend it's too bad his kids didn't get into Central or Masterman.

Believe what you want. I don’t care. The only thing I appreciate about Philly is its cultural diversity. Same as NYC - although NYC doesn’t have as many folks who think they’re Rocky.

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

Any city (Philly) that boos Santa Clause can go suck on rotten eggs for all I care.

(07-22-2020 07:31 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 09:52 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-21-2020 08:40 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 11:59 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-20-2020 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  Nice backhand. And Philly is most definitely a cesspool.

I don't think they build highrises and midrises starting at $2M and $3.5M in cesspools.

I know Philly extremely well. My best friend lives in Philly and I visit him often - and have visited for work several times. Be proud of your city...but cesspool is kind - it’s a s-hole! It’s the only place I have seen a kids’ play area essentially caged in; trash bags on the streets; burned out cars on the street; drug deals in plain view; my friend who has to put his kids in private school b/c public is god awful. But be proud of your city! And, yes, Virginia is that much better.

I've lived in the city proper for 12 years and seen none of that, so I don't believe you. You best friend sounds very poor if he encounters that, so no wonder his kid are in private school.

FYI, city public schools are awful in every single large city in the country. We do happen to have two elite public schools in the city, so tell your friend it's too bad his kids didn't get into Central or Masterman.

Believe what you want. I don’t care. The only thing I appreciate about Philly is its cultural diversity. Same as NYC - although NYC doesn’t have as many folks who think they’re Rocky.

I feel bad your friend lives in the hood.