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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(Yesterday 03:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  No Navy/ND game for the first time in 93 years.

Bummer.

Really disappointed with Notre Dame on this one. Even if it ment it was the only game on the schedule Notre Dame should have played Navy. There is something to be said about loyalty, and Notre Dame didnt live up to the ideals with this one. I’m not sure I will watch a single Notre Dame game this year.

How do you know it wasn't Navy being unwilling to give up a home game?

ACC scheduling rules for 2020 precluded ND going to Annapolis.

To be able to play that game on that date, Navy would have had to go to South Bend or play ND in an ACC state.

Navy would undoubtedly prefer to play ND at home, or at a neutral site where Navy gets the revenue like they were planning to do in 2020. Maybe Navy will get the home game next season.

Also, if Navy is playing only two non-con games this fall, they might have wanted to reserve those places for Army and Air Force.
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Navy is playing three. BYU replaced Notre Dame. I honestly expect Army to also play BYU.

Well if there is any college football this year, which I think there wont be.

ND meanwhile put nearby Western Michigan on the schedule as their OOC. ACC really surprised me by having non-rivalry OOC games. The only interesting one is UCF vs GT
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(Yesterday 04:07 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  No Navy/ND game for the first time in 93 years.

Bummer.

Really disappointed with Notre Dame on this one. Even if it ment it was the only game on the schedule Notre Dame should have played Navy. There is something to be said about loyalty, and Notre Dame didnt live up to the ideals with this one. I’m not sure I will watch a single Notre Dame game this year.

How do you know it wasn't Navy being unwilling to give up a home game?

ACC scheduling rules for 2020 precluded ND going to Annapolis.

To be able to play that game on that date, Navy would have had to go to South Bend or play ND in an ACC state.

Navy would undoubtedly prefer to play ND at home, or at a neutral site where Navy gets the revenue like they were planning to do in 2020. Maybe Navy will get the home game next season.

Also, if Navy is playing only two non-con games this fall, they might have wanted to reserve those places for Army and Air Force.

I presume it is probably Navy either reserving those spots for their 2 big rivals and wanting ND at home, not on the road.
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(Yesterday 04:44 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Navy is playing three. BYU replaced Notre Dame. I honestly expect Army to also play BYU.

Well if there is any college football this year, which I think there wont be.

ND meanwhile put nearby Western Michigan on the schedule as their OOC. ACC really surprised me by having non-rivalry OOC games. The only interesting one is UCF vs GT

Western Michigan was already on the schedule, at ND.

It was just kept there, same date and all.
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(Yesterday 03:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  No Navy/ND game for the first time in 93 years.

Bummer.

Really disappointed with Notre Dame on this one. Even if it ment it was the only game on the schedule Notre Dame should have played Navy. There is something to be said about loyalty, and Notre Dame didnt live up to the ideals with this one. I’m not sure I will watch a single Notre Dame game this year.

How do you know it wasn't Navy being unwilling to give up a home game?

ACC scheduling rules for 2020 precluded ND going to Annapolis.

To be able to play that game on that date, Navy would have had to go to South Bend or play ND in an ACC state.

I assume it was Navy being unwilling to go to South Bend, but it's still the ACC's fault, because it was Navy's year to be the home team. If it's your turn to be the home team, you have every right to be unwilling to give that up.

FWIW, the very last part of your post is incorrect. The ACC rules said Navy would have had to travel to Indiana. The game didn't necessarily have to be in South Bend, it could have been in say Indianapolis, but it had to be in the home state of the ACC team being played, not just any ACC state.

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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(Yesterday 07:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  No Navy/ND game for the first time in 93 years.

Bummer.

Really disappointed with Notre Dame on this one. Even if it ment it was the only game on the schedule Notre Dame should have played Navy. There is something to be said about loyalty, and Notre Dame didnt live up to the ideals with this one. I’m not sure I will watch a single Notre Dame game this year.

How do you know it wasn't Navy being unwilling to give up a home game?

ACC scheduling rules for 2020 precluded ND going to Annapolis.

To be able to play that game on that date, Navy would have had to go to South Bend or play ND in an ACC state.

I assume it was Navy being unwilling to go to South Bend, but it's still the ACC's fault, because it was Navy's year to be the home team. If it's your turn to be the home team, you have every right to be unwilling to give that up.

FWIW, the very last part of your post is incorrect. The ACC rules said Navy would have had to travel to Indiana. The game didn't necessarily have to be in South Bend, it could have been in say Indianapolis, but it had to be in the home state of the ACC team being played, not just any ACC state.

07-coffee3

Not a good start for ND being in a conference, first action by the ACC strong armed ND's only remaining rivalry game of 2020 off the schedule.
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(Yesterday 07:25 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  No Navy/ND game for the first time in 93 years.

Bummer.

Really disappointed with Notre Dame on this one. Even if it ment it was the only game on the schedule Notre Dame should have played Navy. There is something to be said about loyalty, and Notre Dame didnt live up to the ideals with this one. I’m not sure I will watch a single Notre Dame game this year.

How do you know it wasn't Navy being unwilling to give up a home game?

ACC scheduling rules for 2020 precluded ND going to Annapolis.

To be able to play that game on that date, Navy would have had to go to South Bend or play ND in an ACC state.

I assume it was Navy being unwilling to go to South Bend, but it's still the ACC's fault, because it was Navy's year to be the home team. If it's your turn to be the home team, you have every right to be unwilling to give that up.

FWIW, the very last part of your post is incorrect. The ACC rules said Navy would have had to travel to Indiana. The game didn't necessarily have to be in South Bend, it could have been in say Indianapolis, but it had to be in the home state of the ACC team being played, not just any ACC state.

07-coffee3

Not a good start for ND being in a conference, first action by the ACC strong armed ND's only remaining rivalry game of 2020 off the schedule.

Yes, the ACC announced its 10+1 schedule plan with a lot of fanfare about preserving rivalries, but Notre Dame vs Navy is as big a rivalry as any of them, and it was given total short-shrift in their plan.
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(Yesterday 07:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  No Navy/ND game for the first time in 93 years.

Bummer.

Really disappointed with Notre Dame on this one. Even if it ment it was the only game on the schedule Notre Dame should have played Navy. There is something to be said about loyalty, and Notre Dame didnt live up to the ideals with this one. I’m not sure I will watch a single Notre Dame game this year.

How do you know it wasn't Navy being unwilling to give up a home game?

ACC scheduling rules for 2020 precluded ND going to Annapolis.

To be able to play that game on that date, Navy would have had to go to South Bend or play ND in an ACC state.

I assume it was Navy being unwilling to go to South Bend, but it's still the ACC's fault, because it was Navy's year to be the home team. If it's your turn to be the home team, you have every right to be unwilling to give that up.

FWIW, the very last part of your post is incorrect. The ACC rules said Navy would have had to travel to Indiana. The game didn't necessarily have to be in South Bend, it could have been in say Indianapolis, but it had to be in the home state of the ACC team being played, not just any ACC state.

07-coffee3

The details of what options were explored or offered or rejected may never be known for sure by those of us (i.e. EVERYONE on these or other message boards) NOT in the room where it happened.
My preference would obviously have been NMCMS. That would have required a THIRD party to approve, beyond the schools, so it is what it is.
A Navy "home" game in Indianapolis would have been okay - much like any other Navy home game in an NFL stadium, AND would have delivered valuable content to the AAC-ESPN contract. There are any number of reasons that could have just been too hard - maybe even if both institutions wanted that.
2020 game in South Bend would have made me queasy - whether pretending Navy was the home team or juggling a couple years of the rotation. But as a fan, I probably still would have preferred that to ending the longest continuous intersectional rivalry in college football.
My initial reaction was to call ND cowards or fools or both, but I guess Ive stepped back from that. Maybe I'll pull it out at some later date.
BYU is a meh+ consolation prize.
Extension to 2032 may mean more to me than the addition of BYU home and home does.

I guess I'll say "yes" if the ticket office offers me a shot at the Labor Day game. Heck novelty of a night game is a thing, I guess.

Still disappointed overall.
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Navy is flying to Provo, Utah to face BYU in place of Notre Dame.

How is that better than flying to South Bend, Indiana?
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(Yesterday 09:10 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Navy is flying to Provo, Utah to face BYU in place of Notre Dame.

How is that better than flying to South Bend, Indiana?

Isn't it the other way around? BYU is the visitor?

I thought that game was still in Annapolis.
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you're right. I read it backwards.

ND wanted to play in Ireland. When that was off, so was the game.
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(Yesterday 07:25 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)pki1998 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 08:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  No Navy/ND game for the first time in 93 years.

Bummer.

Really disappointed with Notre Dame on this one. Even if it ment it was the only game on the schedule Notre Dame should have played Navy. There is something to be said about loyalty, and Notre Dame didnt live up to the ideals with this one. I’m not sure I will watch a single Notre Dame game this year.

How do you know it wasn't Navy being unwilling to give up a home game?

ACC scheduling rules for 2020 precluded ND going to Annapolis.

To be able to play that game on that date, Navy would have had to go to South Bend or play ND in an ACC state.

I assume it was Navy being unwilling to go to South Bend, but it's still the ACC's fault, because it was Navy's year to be the home team. If it's your turn to be the home team, you have every right to be unwilling to give that up.

FWIW, the very last part of your post is incorrect. The ACC rules said Navy would have had to travel to Indiana. The game didn't necessarily have to be in South Bend, it could have been in say Indianapolis, but it had to be in the home state of the ACC team being played, not just any ACC state.

07-coffee3

Not a good start for ND being in a conference, first action by the ACC strong armed ND's only remaining rivalry game of 2020 off the schedule.

Whiskey...Notre Dame knew what they were getting. Is it the ACC's fault that Notre Dame has an 11 game schedule and full distribution of ACC TV money this year and access to all the bowls? I think ND came out very well.

Not playing Navy one year isn't the end of the world...heck we aren't even sure limited fans will be allowed and games played. Strange times...
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(Yesterday 11:30 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  you're right. I read it backwards.

ND wanted to play in Ireland. When that was off, so was the game.

On what planet?

There are these things like Covid and an ACC schedule mandate that you seem to have forgotten.

Anti-ND bias is a powerful thing, facts be damned.

The game was scheduled for Annapolis after Dublin was scrapped.

ND joining a conference, with conference restrictions, killed that game.

See why ND doesn't want to join a football conference? Too damn restrictive.
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(Today 07:54 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(Yesterday 11:30 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  you're right. I read it backwards.

ND wanted to play in Ireland. When that was off, so was the game.

On what planet?

There are these things like Covid and an ACC schedule mandate that you seem to have forgotten.

Anti-ND bias is a powerful thing, facts be damned.

The game was scheduled for Annapolis after Dublin was scrapped.

ND joining a conference, with conference restrictions, killed that game.

See why ND doesn't want to join a football conference? Too damn restrictive.

Newsflash Terry...you joined one04-cheers

At least for a year03-lmfao
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