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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
(07-24-2020 07:39 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  If there that desperate, make it permanent.

If they're that..........
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(07-24-2020 04:53 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  They could work out a 10 game schedule, where the 4 w/SEC rivals only play 9 conference games.
The idea being proposed is 10+1, where you have 10 conference games and on OOC (the 11th game), it would allow for those ACC/SEC rivalries and ND could maintain their rivalry game with Navy.

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(07-25-2020 08:00 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-24-2020 07:39 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  If there that desperate, make it permanent.

If they're that..........

I need to proofread my sentences better before posting.
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
10+1 for a year is a Good move for everybody. BYU to the big 12 for a year or permanently should also be on the table. Another option would be BYU to the acc with ND for a year. Thus, each division would be 8 teams instead of unbalanced.

UVA, V tech, UNC, Duke, Wake, NC state, Clemson, G tech

BC, Cuse, Pitt, Lville, ND, BYU, FSU, Miami

Play a 7-3 format
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If all of this is true....I bet we will see Comcast add the ACCN this fall
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RE: Notre Dame in talks to join the ACC for 2020 football
All of this will be moot if there is no football this fall.

If they do play, would all players, managers and coaches be essentially quarantined for the entire season? There will be a lot of empty dorm rooms they can use. Be interesting to see if they perform better by abstaining from sex for several months.
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(07-25-2020 09:23 AM)ken d Wrote:  All of this will be moot if there is no football this fall.

If they do play, would all players, managers and coaches be essentially quarantined for the entire season? There will be a lot of empty dorm rooms they can use. Be interesting to see if they perform better by abstaining from sex for several months.

Tebow did alright.
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If Notre Dame football really does "join" the ACC for 2020, meaning being counted in the conference football standings, being eligible for the ACC title game and ACC side of the Orange Bowl bid, etc., the full shebang, than that will be a MAJOR breakthrough for the ACC in their attempt to lure ND permanently into the fold.

A major coup, as temporary things sometimes become permanent.
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(07-25-2020 10:00 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 09:23 AM)ken d Wrote:  All of this will be moot if there is no football this fall.

If they do play, would all players, managers and coaches be essentially quarantined for the entire season? There will be a lot of empty dorm rooms they can use. Be interesting to see if they perform better by abstaining from sex for several months.

Tebow did alright.

I could see a temporary increase in the number of team "managers" just for this season. 07-coffee3
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(07-25-2020 10:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  If Notre Dame football really does "join" the ACC for 2020, meaning being counted in the conference football standings, being eligible for the ACC title game and ACC side of the Orange Bowl bid, etc., the full shebang, than that will be a MAJOR breakthrough for the ACC in their attempt to lure ND permanently into the fold.

A major coup, as temporary things sometimes become permanent.

I believe this would have to last a lot longer than one season for that to happen.
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(07-24-2020 12:27 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Proposal would let Notre Dame vie for ACC title in 2020.

I wonder what, if anything, that would mean for the Orange Bowl? If ND is eligible for the ACC half of the Orange Bowl slot, would they still also be eligible for the other slot, the one they currently share with the SEC and B1G?
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(07-25-2020 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-24-2020 12:27 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Proposal would let Notre Dame vie for ACC title in 2020.

I wonder what, if anything, that would mean for the Orange Bowl? If ND is eligible for the ACC half of the Orange Bowl slot, would they still also be eligible for the other slot, the one they currently share with the SEC and B1G?

For many years, Notre Dame chose not to participate in any bowls. I wonder if they would do so again this year. That's assuming there are bowls at all. Much of the local money put up by the local Bowl committees is based on the benefit to the city from winter tourism. The Rose Parade has already been canceled. Might the Rose Bowl follow suit? Or will the games be played for TV, with reduced payouts to the CFP?
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(07-25-2020 10:22 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-24-2020 12:27 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Proposal would let Notre Dame vie for ACC title in 2020.

I wonder what, if anything, that would mean for the Orange Bowl? If ND is eligible for the ACC half of the Orange Bowl slot, would they still also be eligible for the other slot, the one they currently share with the SEC and B1G?

For many years, Notre Dame chose not to participate in any bowls. I wonder if they would do so again this year. That's assuming there are bowls at all. Much of the local money put up by the local Bowl committees is based on the benefit to the city from winter tourism. The Rose Parade has already been canceled. Might the Rose Bowl follow suit? Or will the games be played for TV, with reduced payouts to the CFP?

If there is a CFP, I can't imagine ND being eligible for it and declining to participate.

We all know the situation is fluid, any day now the season might be canceled entirely. Or it might get canceled four games in, or even if games generally go on, a particular team might get an outbreak of CV19 that affects many players and coaches and have to cancel its remaining games, etc. So much can happen. But I suspect if conditions are good enough to play the season out such that bowls will be held, then ND and most other teams will play the bowls.
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(07-25-2020 08:27 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 08:00 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-24-2020 07:39 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  If there that desperate, make it permanent.

If they're that..........

I need to proofread my sentences better before posting.

This happens more often the older we get....lol. I've done it plenty of times.
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(07-25-2020 11:16 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 08:27 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 08:00 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(07-24-2020 07:39 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  If there that desperate, make it permanent.

If they're that..........

I need to proofread my sentences better before posting.

This happens more often the older we get....lol. I've done it plenty of times.

And don't pay attention to freakin auto correct or the 'smart' guessing....but yeah, lol, it does happen more as we get older.
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(07-24-2020 12:31 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I am okay with it, too....for one year.

Either way, its a Brave New Covid World.

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(07-25-2020 09:23 AM)ken d Wrote:  All of this will be moot if there is no football this fall.

If they do play, would all players, managers and coaches be essentially quarantined for the entire season? There will be a lot of empty dorm rooms they can use. Be interesting to see if they perform better by abstaining from sex for several months.

Most schools are bringing kids on campus.
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(07-25-2020 10:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:22 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-24-2020 12:27 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Proposal would let Notre Dame vie for ACC title in 2020.

I wonder what, if anything, that would mean for the Orange Bowl? If ND is eligible for the ACC half of the Orange Bowl slot, would they still also be eligible for the other slot, the one they currently share with the SEC and B1G?

For many years, Notre Dame chose not to participate in any bowls. I wonder if they would do so again this year. That's assuming there are bowls at all. Much of the local money put up by the local Bowl committees is based on the benefit to the city from winter tourism. The Rose Parade has already been canceled. Might the Rose Bowl follow suit? Or will the games be played for TV, with reduced payouts to the CFP?

If there is a CFP, I can't imagine ND being eligible for it and declining to participate.

We all know the situation is fluid, any day now the season might be canceled entirely. Or it might get canceled four games in, or even if games generally go on, a particular team might get an outbreak of CV19 that affects many players and coaches and have to cancel its remaining games, etc. So much can happen. But I suspect if conditions are good enough to play the season out such that bowls will be held, then ND and most other teams will play the bowls.

That other article showed that the NY6 and title game produced 34% of ESPN's ad revenue. That is one thing they want to keep if at all possible.
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(07-27-2020 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:22 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-24-2020 12:27 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Proposal would let Notre Dame vie for ACC title in 2020.

I wonder what, if anything, that would mean for the Orange Bowl? If ND is eligible for the ACC half of the Orange Bowl slot, would they still also be eligible for the other slot, the one they currently share with the SEC and B1G?

For many years, Notre Dame chose not to participate in any bowls. I wonder if they would do so again this year. That's assuming there are bowls at all. Much of the local money put up by the local Bowl committees is based on the benefit to the city from winter tourism. The Rose Parade has already been canceled. Might the Rose Bowl follow suit? Or will the games be played for TV, with reduced payouts to the CFP?

If there is a CFP, I can't imagine ND being eligible for it and declining to participate.

We all know the situation is fluid, any day now the season might be canceled entirely. Or it might get canceled four games in, or even if games generally go on, a particular team might get an outbreak of CV19 that affects many players and coaches and have to cancel its remaining games, etc. So much can happen. But I suspect if conditions are good enough to play the season out such that bowls will be held, then ND and most other teams will play the bowls.

That other article showed that the NY6 and title game produced 34% of ESPN's ad revenue. That is one thing they want to keep if at all possible.

Yes, I don't think it's any surprise that there seems to be a correlation between money and desire to play. Conferences like the SWAC and Ivy that do not generate much football revenue are more willing to cancel or postpone the season to the spring than are the P5.

Of course we also see the same with the pro leagues, who have even more money at stake. NBA, NFL, MLB etc. are all forging ahead with plans to play, or have actually started playing.
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(07-27-2020 10:53 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-27-2020 10:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:22 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(07-25-2020 10:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I wonder what, if anything, that would mean for the Orange Bowl? If ND is eligible for the ACC half of the Orange Bowl slot, would they still also be eligible for the other slot, the one they currently share with the SEC and B1G?

For many years, Notre Dame chose not to participate in any bowls. I wonder if they would do so again this year. That's assuming there are bowls at all. Much of the local money put up by the local Bowl committees is based on the benefit to the city from winter tourism. The Rose Parade has already been canceled. Might the Rose Bowl follow suit? Or will the games be played for TV, with reduced payouts to the CFP?

If there is a CFP, I can't imagine ND being eligible for it and declining to participate.

We all know the situation is fluid, any day now the season might be canceled entirely. Or it might get canceled four games in, or even if games generally go on, a particular team might get an outbreak of CV19 that affects many players and coaches and have to cancel its remaining games, etc. So much can happen. But I suspect if conditions are good enough to play the season out such that bowls will be held, then ND and most other teams will play the bowls.

That other article showed that the NY6 and title game produced 34% of ESPN's ad revenue. That is one thing they want to keep if at all possible.

Yes, I don't think it's any surprise that there seems to be a correlation between money and desire to play. Conferences like the SWAC and Ivy that do not generate much football revenue are more willing to cancel or postpone the season to the spring than are the P5.

Of course we also see the same with the pro leagues, who have even more money at stake. NBA, NFL, MLB etc. are all forging ahead with plans to play, or have actually started playing.

And over half of Division III conferences have shut down sports for the fall.
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