k2tigers
Hall of Famer
Posts: 18,117
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 953
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-21-2020 09:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: Love Finch and Dana, but Cal was the best recruiter. (Present coach excepted, since he hasn't been here long enough yet.)
Cal recruited nationally, as well as getting who he wanted from the city. Finch and Dana - different times, to be sure - but they recruited 99% locally. Their success depended upon how strong the city classes were. Fortunately, we had some strong city classes back then.
After we had fallen and were having trouble getting back up (sound familiar?), Cal managed to convince kids from Chicago, Detroit, Camden, Boston, etc. to come rebuild our program. And he did it going toe-to-toe with programs like Kansas and Kentucky for the players he wanted. He was a great recruiter.
|
|
07-21-2020 10:25 AM |
|
MvETigers
Special Teams
Posts: 552
Joined: Oct 2019
Reputation: 101
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-20-2020 11:36 AM)ImaTiger Wrote: (07-20-2020 10:52 AM)MvETigers Wrote: I will pick the mic up and bash you with it. However, feel free to walk off because you don't really add to the discussion other than comic relief.
Now Now, don't resort to crass personal attacks. For sure don't physically threaten anyone. Belittles you and our board.
When losing a debate best to sit back an analyze how you lost. Typically it's you didn't grasp all the facts and didn't understand the frame of the question or oppositions argument. In this case; you did all 3.
Welcome to our board BTW; you've almost been her a year. Good luck making it to 2.
If you don't know that I meant bash you with words from the mic, I can't help you. The only thing that belittles me is having to put up with ignorance from posters like you. I believe I lose IQ points having to read your inept statements.
Since your post is still clueless and misses the OP statement, I laugh at your insults.
Yes, I have been reading this board for years and joined about a year ago. The only reason I won't be here for years to come is if other great posters leave and I'm left reading the stupidity of the uninformed.
|
|
07-21-2020 04:51 PM |
|
ImaTiger
We fight like Tigers!
Posts: 2,714
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 318
I Root For: I am a 901Tiger
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-21-2020 04:51 PM)MvETigers Wrote: I can't help you.
Found something we can agree on!
|
|
07-21-2020 05:07 PM |
|
holyterror
Hall of Famer
Posts: 16,881
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 1074
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
At this rate Penny is gonna cause folks to revise their rankings.
|
|
07-21-2020 08:13 PM |
|
uskjtc02
Heisman
Posts: 7,631
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 596
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location: Tunica
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-21-2020 08:13 PM)holyterror Wrote: At this rate Penny is gonna cause folks to revise their rankings.
Penny will be #1 before he’s finished. Without a doubt.
|
|
07-21-2020 09:04 PM |
|
memphisike
Heisman
Posts: 9,816
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 320
I Root For: memphis tigers
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
I see a lot of u Dudes agree with Ike
BTW, Penny will ultimately be our best recruiter, He'll sign plenty of Memphis Dudes and He's
Already recruiting nationally.
|
|
07-22-2020 06:31 PM |
|
Browning Hall
All American
Posts: 3,949
Joined: Nov 2008
Reputation: 1107
I Root For: Mayhem
Location: World Wide Web
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-22-2020 06:31 PM)memphisike Wrote: I see a lot of u Dudes agree with Ike
BTW, Penny will ultimately be our best recruiter, He'll sign plenty of Memphis Dudes and He's
Already recruiting nationally.
Thank you, Ike. It’s neat that you share with us.
|
|
07-22-2020 08:44 PM |
|
Marc Mensa
You'll Get Nothing and Like It
Posts: 14,173
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 673
I Root For: The Underdog
Location: Samaria
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
|
|
07-23-2020 10:55 AM |
|
holyterror
Hall of Famer
Posts: 16,881
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 1074
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Agree, up to a point, Marc.
I wonder-if the sheer DOLLARS that are available to some of today's kids had been available in Larry's tenure, which (if any) Memphis kids might have gone for the payday? Purely conjecture, what do you think?
|
|
07-23-2020 11:04 AM |
|
Marc Mensa
You'll Get Nothing and Like It
Posts: 14,173
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 673
I Root For: The Underdog
Location: Samaria
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 11:04 AM)holyterror Wrote: (07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Agree, up to a point, Marc.
I wonder-if the sheer DOLLARS that are available to some of today's kids had been available in Larry's tenure, which (if any) Memphis kids might have gone for the payday? Purely conjecture, what do you think?
It was a different time during Larry’s tenure. The NBA really didn’t take kids out of HS except in rare cases... Shawn Kemp and Moses Malone come to mind... so he didn’t have to compete with them. Too, SEC schools, outside of Kentucky, Tennessee & later Arkansas weren’t spending squat on basketball, so it made keeping local kids home a little easier. The world was just smaller.
Memphis kids didn’t go to Memphis until Larry stayed home, so he had an authentic story to tell. Larry was just a good dude.
|
|
07-23-2020 11:18 AM |
|
uskjtc02
Heisman
Posts: 7,631
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 596
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location: Tunica
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Times were different. Most kids stayed home if their school was high caliber.
|
|
07-23-2020 11:27 AM |
|
memphisike
Heisman
Posts: 9,816
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 320
I Root For: memphis tigers
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
U r welcome Browning Hall,
Ike is always trying to keep u Dudes enlightened in all things,
I'm sure you r aware JTII, took the road of locking down D.C., wasn't a player in the city he didn't sign if he really wanted him. Then some Dude named Ewing signed out of Boston and JTII became a national recruiter.
Ike thinks Penny is following the map of JTII and will eventually be our best recruiter and land the national title.
I'ke will be on the street tonite to see if any news on local 5 star football player as of now Ike is getting conflicting
News.
|
|
07-23-2020 11:37 AM |
|
holyterror
Hall of Famer
Posts: 16,881
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 1074
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 11:18 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (07-23-2020 11:04 AM)holyterror Wrote: (07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Agree, up to a point, Marc.
I wonder-if the sheer DOLLARS that are available to some of today's kids had been available in Larry's tenure, which (if any) Memphis kids might have gone for the payday? Purely conjecture, what do you think?
It was a different time during Larry’s tenure. The NBA really didn’t take kids out of HS except in rare cases... Shawn Kemp and Moses Malone come to mind... so he didn’t have to compete with them. Too, SEC schools, outside of Kentucky, Tennessee & later Arkansas weren’t spending squat on basketball, so it made keeping local kids home a little easier. The world was just smaller.
Memphis kids didn’t go to Memphis until Larry stayed home, so he had an authentic story to tell. Larry was just a good dude.
This whole G League loophole bugs me but IIWII.
|
|
07-23-2020 12:32 PM |
|
Tiger87
Hall of Famer
Posts: 19,054
Joined: Jan 2012
Reputation: 1239
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Cal had more ability to do so, but less desire. He got who he wanted locally.
Kirk had success at the same level as Finch. Of course, Finch was part of Kirk's success, but we're talking HC recruiting.
|
|
07-23-2020 02:00 PM |
|
450bench
Moderator
Posts: 30,771
Joined: Feb 2005
Reputation: 2301
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Memphis
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
That wasn’t the question.
|
|
07-24-2020 10:49 AM |
|
memphisike
Heisman
Posts: 9,816
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 320
I Root For: memphis tigers
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
Ike has answered the question, He even took the liberty to break it down for u Dudes
Ike recommends u shut this thread down
|
|
07-26-2020 11:57 AM |
|
rolexjames
Heisman
Posts: 8,059
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 207
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 02:00 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Cal had more ability to do so, but less desire. He got who he wanted locally.
Kirk had success at the same level as Finch. Of course, Finch was part of Kirk's success, but we're talking HC recruiting.
Except Thaddeus Young. I think Thaddeus could have helped us replace Shawne Williams and make the final 4.
|
|
07-26-2020 03:30 PM |
|
k2tigers
Hall of Famer
Posts: 18,117
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 953
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
It (07-26-2020 03:30 PM)rolexjames Wrote: (07-23-2020 02:00 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Cal had more ability to do so, but less desire. He got who he wanted locally.
Kirk had success at the same level as Finch. Of course, Finch was part of Kirk's success, but we're talking HC recruiting.
Except Thaddeus Young. I think Thaddeus could have helped us replace Shawne Williams and make the final 4.
True
I think Cal knew he was playing from behind. He would have been a game changer.
Nike, Mr. Raveling had their claws in.
Plus, Georgia Tech is a helluva helluva engineering school.
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2020 06:01 PM by k2tigers.)
|
|
07-26-2020 05:57 PM |
|
jsw3ent
Heisman
Posts: 9,816
Joined: Nov 2007
Reputation: 616
I Root For: memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-26-2020 03:30 PM)rolexjames Wrote: (07-23-2020 02:00 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Cal had more ability to do so, but less desire. He got who he wanted locally.
Kirk had success at the same level as Finch. Of course, Finch was part of Kirk's success, but we're talking HC recruiting.
Except Thaddeus Young. I think Thaddeus could have helped us replace Shawne Williams and make the final 4.
Except WHO ?
|
|
07-26-2020 09:32 PM |
|
MvETigers
Special Teams
Posts: 552
Joined: Oct 2019
Reputation: 101
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Was Coach Finch Best Recruiting Coach?
(07-23-2020 11:04 AM)holyterror Wrote: (07-23-2020 10:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Larry was the best we’ve had at convincing high profile Memphis kids to stay here.
Agree, up to a point, Marc.
I wonder-if the sheer DOLLARS that are available to some of today's kids had been available in Larry's tenure, which (if any) Memphis kids might have gone for the payday? Purely conjecture, what do you think?
Ummmm, apparently you never heard about the Keith Lee shoebox story. It wasn't size 7 shoebox either.
There was a lot of money in it back then, but that was also a two way street.
|
|
08-24-2020 10:22 PM |
|