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OT: Former Miss Kentucky in Jail
From Yahoo! News:
Quote:A former Miss Kentucky who admitted to exchanging sexual photos with a teenage student when she was working as a West Virginia school teacher has been sentenced to prison.

Ramsey BethAnn Bearse, 29, received her two-year sentence in Kanawha County Circuit Court on Tuesday. She was also sentenced to an additional 10 years of supervised release and must register as a sex offender for life, according to Kanawha Assistant Prosecutor Meshell Jarrett.

The former middle school educator pleaded guilty to one count of possessing material depicting minors in sexually explicit conduct in December 2019, news outlets reported. She was initially charged with four counts of sending obscene material to a minor.
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Miss Bearse is a graduate of the University of Kentucky.

Louisville fans, have at it: Name 3 things wrong with this story...
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Not a Ville fan but if she were a male teacher the prison time would be 10 years

Of course looking at her the boy was not harmed at all. LoL

When I was 14...this was Playboy Fantasy material
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(07-16-2020 03:18 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Not a Ville fan but if she were a male teacher the prison time would be 10 years

Of course looking at her the boy was not harmed at all. LoL

IDK. When a woman who looks like that can't find a man and opts for a boy instead... SOMETHING must be wrong with her!
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RE: OT: Former Miss Kentucky in Jail
(07-16-2020 03:12 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  From Yahoo! News:
Quote:A former Miss Kentucky who admitted to exchanging sexual photos with a teenage student when she was working as a West Virginia school teacher has been sentenced to prison.

Ramsey BethAnn Bearse, 29, received her two-year sentence in Kanawha County Circuit Court on Tuesday. She was also sentenced to an additional 10 years of supervised release and must register as a sex offender for life, according to Kanawha Assistant Prosecutor Meshell Jarrett.

The former middle school educator pleaded guilty to one count of possessing material depicting minors in sexually explicit conduct in December 2019, news outlets reported. She was initially charged with four counts of sending obscene material to a minor.
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Miss Bearse is a graduate of the University of Kentucky.

Louisville fans, have at it: Name 3 things wrong with this story...


Ok.... A Ville fan living in Lexghanistan.... originally from Eastern Kentucky.....

3. She left Kentucky for West Virginia.......... hmmmmmmmm
2. Did she have on shoes??????
1. No Family Member involved.... if she wasn't good enough for her family we know something is wrong.....




OK enough joking aside.... another example of double standards in our society... I doubt a male teacher with 15 year old female would have only been a 2 year sentence. I hope that she seeks some counseling to obtain help.
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My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.
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(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.

As he should. That is called rape. Any sex by an adult with a minor, even age 15, is legally rape. Full stop.

The female teacher would get less time, unless rape can be proven.

If it can, she should get 15 years as well. The article mentions her sending photos, but does not any allege sexual contact.
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RE: OT: Former Miss Kentucky in Jail
(07-17-2020 09:16 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.

As he should. That is called rape. Any sex by an adult with a minor, even age 15, is legally rape. Full stop.

The female teacher would get less time, unless rape can be proven.

If it can, she should get 15 years as well. The article mentions her sending photos, but does not any allege sexual contact.

^^^ This ^^^
So, what IS she guilty of?
Contributing to delinquency - yes.
Possibly guilty of child pornography, although it doesn't say that (but I'm suspicious that she showed him hers but never asked to see his...)
She'll do her 2 years then spend the rest of her life on the registered sex offenders list.
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RE: OT: Former Miss Kentucky in Jail
(07-17-2020 09:16 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.

As he should. That is called rape. Any sex by an adult with a minor, even age 15, is legally rape. Full stop.

The female teacher would get less time, unless rape can be proven.

If it can, she should get 15 years as well. The article mentions her sending photos, but does not any allege sexual contact.

When I was 15 I worked for an entire year in an effort to nail the German teacher.
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Hey, you don't have to be from UL hate on UK...

1. "school teacher in West Virginia" is an oxymoron.
2. she probably went to less class than Karl-Anthony Towns.
3. her defense was "hey, have you seen the grown men in kentucky?" [rim shot]
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RE: OT: Former Miss Kentucky in Jail
(07-17-2020 09:16 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.

As he should. That is called rape. Any sex by an adult with a minor, even age 15, is legally rape. Full stop.

The female teacher would get less time, unless rape can be proven.

If it can, she should get 15 years as well. The article mentions her sending photos, but does not any allege sexual contact.

That was the point I was making....a female teacher wouldn't get 15 years.

There has always been a double standard.
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(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.

There is no such thing as consent with a 15 year old. By law they have not reached the age to be able to give consent. It is straight up rape. If it was my daughter he wouldn't have lived to be tried. But I knew where my daughters were almost all the time. It is called parenting.
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RE: OT: Former Miss Kentucky in Jail
(07-18-2020 08:34 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(07-17-2020 09:16 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.

As he should. That is called rape. Any sex by an adult with a minor, even age 15, is legally rape. Full stop.

The female teacher would get less time, unless rape can be proven.

If it can, she should get 15 years as well. The article mentions her sending photos, but does not any allege sexual contact.

That was the point I was making....a female teacher wouldn't get 15 years.

There has always been a double standard.

Rape might have occurred, but either the boy didn't want to mention it or was ignored by law enforcement officers. Texanmark is right- there is a double standard, unless you go to a country like Iran. But, you would have double standard going the other way.
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(07-16-2020 03:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(07-16-2020 03:18 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Not a Ville fan but if she were a male teacher the prison time would be 10 years

Of course looking at her the boy was not harmed at all. LoL

IDK. When a woman who looks like that can't find a man and opts for a boy instead... SOMETHING must be wrong with her!

I have never lived in West Virginia but my co-workers have told me there are a lot of hillbillies there. I don't know whether they are being serious or not but maybe she did try dating adult men in West Virginia.
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(07-18-2020 08:34 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(07-17-2020 09:16 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.

As he should. That is called rape. Any sex by an adult with a minor, even age 15, is legally rape. Full stop.

The female teacher would get less time, unless rape can be proven.

If it can, she should get 15 years as well. The article mentions her sending photos, but does not any allege sexual contact.

That was the point I was making....a female teacher wouldn't get 15 years.

There has always been a double standard.

I have to agree, if a man did that he would be sent to Guantanamo Bay for 15 years
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(07-16-2020 05:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  My son's male cross country coach received 15 years in jail for consensual sex with a 15 year old female student.
(07-17-2020 09:16 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As he should. That is called rape. Any sex by an adult with a minor, even age 15, is legally rape. Full stop.

(07-18-2020 07:35 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  There is no such thing as consent with a 15 year old. By law they have not reached the age to be able to give consent. It is straight up rape. If it was my daughter he wouldn't have lived to be tried. But I knew where my daughters were almost all the time. It is called parenting.

You're both being obtuse. A 15-year old can't *legally* give consent to an adult, but don't pretend that a conscious 15 year old is just as helpless as someone who is passed out drunk. 15 year olds may make bad decisions, and some of them will do so frequently. But they still have agency.

There's not some magical fairy dust from the heavens that changes you from 0% judgement to 100% judgement on your 18th birthday. That's a legal fiction that we've established for the convenience of judges and prosecutors. It's convenient, but it's not always morally right. That's how we get cases like a 19 year old getting her life ruined for having consensual relations with her 16 year old boyfriend.

As a culture, we frequently confuse legal definitions with morality. They are not the same, and we need to stop pretending they are.
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(07-30-2020 10:15 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  As a culture, we frequently confuse legal definitions with morality. They are not the same, and we need to stop pretending they are.

Regardless of how anyone feels about the rest of the thread, this is a great takeaway.
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(07-30-2020 10:52 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 10:15 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  As a culture, we frequently confuse legal definitions with morality. They are not the same, and we need to stop pretending they are.

Regardless of how anyone feels about the rest of the thread, this is a great takeaway.

Yep! Wish I could give him 10 rep points for that post.
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