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Will we survive?
I know there's not much to talk about (and not much excitement anyway) in regards to the upcoming season, but I did want to discuss this.

Will we survive if football is cancelled this year? I know we're already one of the poorest athletic departments in the country, so I'm concerned we may be dropping from D1 without revenue from the sport that literally funds everything else we have.

But I won't pretend to be privy on insider information regarding our finances outside of what is widely reported and known. Does anyone else know more than I do?
07-13-2020 11:01 AM
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(07-13-2020 11:01 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  I know there's not much to talk about (and not much excitement anyway) in regards to the upcoming season, but I did want to discuss this.

Will we survive if football is cancelled this year? I know we're already one of the poorest athletic departments in the country, so I'm concerned we may be dropping from D1 without revenue from the sport that literally funds everything else we have.

But I won't pretend to be privy on insider information regarding our finances outside of what is widely reported and known. Does anyone else know more than I do?

In my opinion the short answer is No. We have no leadership at USM and the budget is already horrible.
07-13-2020 02:39 PM
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not in any capacity relative to matter with Bennett as president....

we have the lowest budget of all d1 at this point....now we have toby/Reeves rinos pulling 'strings'...........gfl with that trio of ineptitude....

make a wish upon a star....you got a better chance = 1
07-14-2020 02:53 PM
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My bigger fear is a lot of the P5 conferences are announcing conference only schedules. It could be the prelude to them agreeing to only play P5 competition going forward.
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(07-16-2020 01:06 PM)Bleacher Eagle Wrote:  My bigger fear is a lot of the P5 conferences are announcing conference only schedules. It could be the prelude to them agreeing to only play P5 competition going forward.

nobody saw the tv contracts expiring going into '21................nope, not a soul....

we have the shiTTTiest budget out of however many d1 teams.....southern miss isn't the puss in the pimple anymore anywhere anytime....
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(07-13-2020 11:01 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Will we survive if football is cancelled this year?

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07-20-2020 12:57 PM
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(07-13-2020 11:01 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  I know there's not much to talk about (and not much excitement anyway) in regards to the upcoming season, but I did want to discuss this.

Will we survive if football is cancelled this year? I know we're already one of the poorest athletic departments in the country, so I'm concerned we may be dropping from D1 without revenue from the sport that literally funds everything else we have.

But I won't pretend to be privy on insider information regarding our finances outside of what is widely reported and known. Does anyone else know more than I do?

Your question implies we were alive before this. My personal feeling is we were dead before the last conference realignment - otherwise we wouldn't be where we are. I suppose it's all relative though, and how you define "death" and "survival".
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RE: Will we survive?
Short answer, no.

Long answer,
It has been dead. I have been a fan my entire life and have had zero desire to go to Hattiesburg to watch a game against UTSA, UAB, whoever for the last couple of years. The biggest goal to root for is a CUSA title (and who cares about that).

But to be fair, i can see the SEC booting state or ole miss in the coming years and they will be in the exact same boat. Probably worse since Hattiesburg is the best college town in the state.
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RE: Will we survive?
Well, the SEC has agreed to a conference only season. So there goes our money game with Auburn. But we'll still have to pay Hopson and staff, plus travel expenses to Denton, TX, El Paso, TX, Bowling Green, KY and Lynchburg, VA. I imagine in some way we'll survive to next season if things return to normal, but we'll probably be on life support.

The point made by Bleacher Eagle is very valid. With the Power 5 conferences playing only conference games, it could be the catalyst to rejecting the status quo. I could see them seeing a shortened season as a good thing. The obstacle to an expanded playoff has been the 12 game seasons. They may figure they can have a shortened season and an expanded 16 or 32 team playoff scenario (power conference teams ONLY). And even if they don't, they may decide to play a power conference only OOC schedule. If anything like that happens it will essentially be the death of Southern Miss football. At least the way most people have historically viewed it. If we were in a position that we never played a power conference team again, I see fan support vanishing. It wouldn't surprise me if average attendance was 5000 or less. The Group of Five teams will be the new FCS.
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I don’t see the P5 surrendering two home games each (and the revenue that comes with it) for a mild chance they may make the playoff (80% of P5 teams don’t have a chance). I also don’t see P5 teams stopping buy games, as 60% need them to pad their records and make bowls.
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(08-01-2020 08:36 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  I don’t see the P5 surrendering two home games each (and the revenue that comes with it) for a mild chance they may make the playoff (80% of P5 teams don’t have a chance). I also don’t see P5 teams stopping buy games, as 60% need them to pad their records and make bowls.

I don't see how the flagship schools don't break off and form an entire entity devoid of the NCAA...

the leftovers will align as required...

watch it happen ....

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(08-01-2020 08:36 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  I don’t see the P5 surrendering two home games each (and the revenue that comes with it) for a mild chance they may make the playoff (80% of P5 teams don’t have a chance). I also don’t see P5 teams stopping buy games, as 60% need them to pad their records and make bowls.

The 2 regular season games wouldn't matter. I'm sure with a bigger playoff system there would be so much money in that, the money would be shared in a way that they would all end of with more money than the 2 games bring. Attendance has been dropping for everyone - not just the little guys. So, they'd give up the revenue of 2 home games for a share of the playoff money. Also - it probably won't be 2 home games anyway if they decide to play P5 teams in OOC schedule. They'd have to travel for one of those game which means travel cost for one. They'll gladly sit at home and watch the other teams play and get a check.

JMHO 04-cheers
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(08-01-2020 03:53 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I don't see how the flagship schools don't break off and form an entire entity devoid of the NCAA...

the leftovers will align as required...

watch it happen ....

@muhTVcontracts

The rumblings have started. Should the NCAA call off fall championships, the P5 are discussing having their own because calling off everything but football isn’t viable and they’re by gosh going to play football because of that mountain of money:
Power 5 Leaders Exploring Possibility of Staging Their Own Fall Sports Championships

Really, though, one way or another, the monster’s eventually going to eat itself.
Why A Large Group of Pac-12 Players Are Prepared to Sit Out the Football Season
Quote: The student athletes are calling for specific health and safety protections as it relates to the COVID-19 pandemic (including player-approved standards and third-party oversight), preservation of non-revenue sports, a joint task force to address racial injustice issues, and economic freedom and equity—including guaranteed medical coverage, name, image and likeness rights, and fair-market pay based on a revenue-sharing model.
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(08-02-2020 10:26 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 03:53 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I don't see how the flagship schools don't break off and form an entire entity devoid of the NCAA...

the leftovers will align as required...

watch it happen ....

@muhTVcontracts

The rumblings have started. Should the NCAA call off fall championships, the P5 are discussing having their own because calling off everything but football isn’t viable and they’re by gosh going to play football because of that mountain of money:
Power 5 Leaders Exploring Possibility of Staging Their Own Fall Sports Championships

Really, though, one way or another, the monster’s eventually going to eat itself.
Why A Large Group of Pac-12 Players Are Prepared to Sit Out the Football Season
Quote: The student athletes are calling for specific health and safety protections as it relates to the COVID-19 pandemic (including player-approved standards and third-party oversight), preservation of non-revenue sports, a joint task force to address racial injustice issues, and economic freedom and equity—including guaranteed medical coverage, name, image and likeness rights, and fair-market pay based on a revenue-sharing model.

one is lining a cavern or living in a cave if one didn't see this coming...
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(08-02-2020 06:42 PM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  https://www.westernjournal.com/victor-da...xRVi_J1k3w

lol....why do I need a university for such....

Quote:Soon, popular fury will beget more dangerous questions for American universities. Maybe the country should subsidize the training of more essential electricians, plumbers, contractors and masons instead of unemployable environmental and ethnic studies majors.

If a university president wanted to devise a plan for how to destroy his university, he could not have come up with a better one than what has happened on campus in recent decades.


another ding-dong w/o a clue...

policy drives direction.....therefore, ya get dipshites like ol' benneTTT...

come play in the spin room if'n wanna talk edjumication.....you'd have a fk'n blast with that cast...
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Update on the Pac-12 situation.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/...all-season

Per Football Scoop, a separate press release attached the names of 12 players from 9 schools to this.
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(08-02-2020 08:47 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  Update on the Pac-12 situation.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/...all-season

Per Football Scoop, a separate press release attached the names of 12 players from 9 schools to this.

that's a shiteload of "because"...

#aproposIdiots

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i love the SEC conference only schedule. I hope MSU and Ole Miss enjoy those 3-7 4-6 records. They will never have another winning season if the P5 breaks away and they only play P5 schedules. Also Monken eluded to this his last year here if i remember correctly.
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(08-02-2020 07:54 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  Why do I need a university for such....

Obviously it wasn't for the pursuit of intelligence.
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