(07-14-2020 05:14 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 09:41 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:56 AM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 12:19 AM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 02:41 PM)AztecEmpire Wrote:  BYU/SDSU/BSU need to join the AAC for football yesterday. It's just too obvious and makes a 14 team conf on par with PAC and ACC(Save Clemson).

I think we would need an auto spot in an expanded playoff for those three to bite on an invitation. If one autobid for the G5 and the independents not named Notre Dame becomes available, then they would have no need to join the AAC. I think everything hinges on what an expanded 8 team playoff looks like.

Chicken & egg. If those 3 join at least as FB only (I think no reason not to go full member if all 3 are joining) then the next closest conference is tanked. Do you think the NY6 bowls and the P5 want a team from one of the G4's after the MWC is gutted? AAC's strength jumps the ACC & Pac12 to #4. I think the P5 & NY6 bowls would all be on board with the AAC getting an autobid from what was the "G5" spot.

Everyone's said that if we get an autobid they would all join but if we get one then we wont need them, we might take 1 to get to 12 but definitely not all 3.

Yeah, but with full, doesn't that leave you travelling to San Diego to play sports that don't matter like Softball and basketball? Seems counter-intuitive given the current discussions around shrinking the olympic sports footprint.

I guess we could still go with the plan of playing whoever you want in the garbage sports and meeting back up at the end of the year for the championship/tournament.

I think the travel is overrated, check the schedule of your non revenue sports... Most AAC members already travel out west.

Yeah but my understanding was that there is currently some kind of effort to stop doing that for sports that have rackets, paddles, and spherical balls but don't have fans or intrigue.

(07-14-2020 08:06 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 02:29 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 10:43 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:18 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Memphis played BYU in the Miami Beach Bowl a few years ago. My understanding is that BYU plays dirty football and caused a brawl after that game. Based on this data and other similar accounts regarding BYU, I would not want to see them in our conference.

These type incidents is what creates rilvaries... I assure you if BYU became a member of the AAC Memphis would circle BYU's matchups almost immediately... Plus we would see other great matchups vs BYU

Houston vs BYU
Cincinnati vs BYU
UCF vs BYU
Navy vs BYU
Temple vs BYU
SMU vs BYU

Anyways you get my drift... The addition of BYU however would bring endless of opportunities for everyone involved, IMHO.

Oh but a one year temporary invite is definitely a hard NO for the blue cougars.

Too true!

Other than the UConn series, pretty much every recent BYU v. AAC game has been competitive and exciting:

BYU v. Houston: two competitive games, including a 47-46 barn burner
BYU v. UCF: two single score games, including one in OT
BYU v. Memphis: double-overtime bowl game followed by a bench-clearing brawl
BYU v. Tulsa: single score bowl game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. USF: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. ECU: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. Cincinnati: come-from-behind win

And, BYU plays the SMU Holiday Bowl highlights on the big screen nearly every home game.

I really don't understand the marriage holdup between BYU and the AAC.

Heck I'm even going to throw this out there too... The AAC with BYU in it will be twice as better than when Utah, TCU and BYU shared a conference together.

Well, the primary motivations for independence are increased exposure and better fan access - which goals the BYU football program has met in spades (when compared to the pre-independence situation). Independence does provide a strong schedule of attractive home games and nationwide fan access to marquee venues and opponents, with most of our games on national television, while still able to play the three regional rivals.

I think AAC membership would continue to help BYU to meet these primary goals, but the BYU administration continues to feel that independence places BYU on a similar level to P5 schools and someday will give us a better opportunity to join the club.

What the administration has overlooked is that you get the very best exposure by having high rankings, playing for conference championships, and playing in marquee bowl games, which all come from nice-and-shiny win-loss records. The schedule is much more difficult, which means more inconsistency and fewer wins. For instance, last year we beat USC at home and Tennessee at Neyland in September, but we also got beat up by Utah and Washington. Four consecutive tough P5 games in September took its toll and we immediately lost to Toledo and South Florida in our next two games. There were similar patterns in 2018 and 2016 (the 2017 season will forever be cast away from my memory).

Another tough issue is that BYU has scheduled a bunch of games over the next few years. So, we can't just flip a switch to add 8 AAC conference games without major contract ramifications.

(07-15-2020 11:40 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:06 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 02:29 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 10:43 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:18 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Memphis played BYU in the Miami Beach Bowl a few years ago. My understanding is that BYU plays dirty football and caused a brawl after that game. Based on this data and other similar accounts regarding BYU, I would not want to see them in our conference.

These type incidents is what creates rilvaries... I assure you if BYU became a member of the AAC Memphis would circle BYU's matchups almost immediately... Plus we would see other great matchups vs BYU

Houston vs BYU
Cincinnati vs BYU
UCF vs BYU
Navy vs BYU
Temple vs BYU
SMU vs BYU

Anyways you get my drift... The addition of BYU however would bring endless of opportunities for everyone involved, IMHO.

Oh but a one year temporary invite is definitely a hard NO for the blue cougars.

Too true!

Other than the UConn series, pretty much every recent BYU v. AAC game has been competitive and exciting:

BYU v. Houston: two competitive games, including a 47-46 barn burner
BYU v. UCF: two single score games, including one in OT
BYU v. Memphis: double-overtime bowl game followed by a bench-clearing brawl
BYU v. Tulsa: single score bowl game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. USF: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. ECU: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. Cincinnati: come-from-behind win

And, BYU plays the SMU Holiday Bowl highlights on the big screen nearly every home game.

I really don't understand the marriage holdup between BYU and the AAC.

Heck I'm even going to throw this out there too... The AAC with BYU in it will be twice as better than when Utah, TCU and BYU shared a conference together.

Well, the primary motivations for independence are increased exposure and better fan access - which goals the BYU football program has met in spades (when compared to the pre-independence situation). Independence does provide a strong schedule of attractive home games and nationwide fan access to marquee venues and opponents, with most of our games on national television, while still able to play the three regional rivals.

I think AAC membership would continue to help BYU to meet these primary goals, but the BYU administration continues to feel that independence places BYU on a similar level to P5 schools and someday will give us a better opportunity to join the club.

What the administration has overlooked is that you get the very best exposure by having high rankings, playing for conference championships, and playing in marquee bowl games, which all come from nice-and-shiny win-loss records. The schedule is much more difficult, which means more inconsistency and fewer wins. For instance, last year we beat USC at home and Tennessee at Neyland in September, but we also got beat up by Utah and Washington. Four consecutive tough P5 games in September took its toll and we immediately lost to Toledo and South Florida in our next two games. There were similar patterns in 2018 and 2016 (the 2017 season will forever be cast away from my memory).

Another tough issue is that BYU has scheduled a bunch of games over the next few years. So, we can't just flip a switch to add 8 AAC conference games without major contract ramifications.

(07-15-2020 11:40 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:06 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 02:29 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 10:43 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:18 AM)covingtontiger Wrote:  Memphis played BYU in the Miami Beach Bowl a few years ago. My understanding is that BYU plays dirty football and caused a brawl after that game. Based on this data and other similar accounts regarding BYU, I would not want to see them in our conference.

These type incidents is what creates rilvaries... I assure you if BYU became a member of the AAC Memphis would circle BYU's matchups almost immediately... Plus we would see other great matchups vs BYU

Houston vs BYU
Cincinnati vs BYU
UCF vs BYU
Navy vs BYU
Temple vs BYU
SMU vs BYU

Anyways you get my drift... The addition of BYU however would bring endless of opportunities for everyone involved, IMHO.

Oh but a one year temporary invite is definitely a hard NO for the blue cougars.

Too true!

Other than the UConn series, pretty much every recent BYU v. AAC game has been competitive and exciting:

BYU v. Houston: two competitive games, including a 47-46 barn burner
BYU v. UCF: two single score games, including one in OT
BYU v. Memphis: double-overtime bowl game followed by a bench-clearing brawl
BYU v. Tulsa: single score bowl game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. USF: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. ECU: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. Cincinnati: come-from-behind win

And, BYU plays the SMU Holiday Bowl highlights on the big screen nearly every home game.

I really don't understand the marriage holdup between BYU and the AAC.

Heck I'm even going to throw this out there too... The AAC with BYU in it will be twice as better than when Utah, TCU and BYU shared a conference together.

Well, the primary motivations for independence are increased exposure and better fan access - which goals the BYU football program has met in spades (when compared to the pre-independence situation). Independence does provide a strong schedule of attractive home games and nationwide fan access to marquee venues and opponents, with most of our games on national television, while still able to play the three regional rivals.

I think AAC membership would continue to help BYU to meet these primary goals, but the BYU administration continues to feel that independence places BYU on a similar level to P5 schools and someday will give us a better opportunity to join the club.

What the administration has overlooked is that you get the very best exposure by having high rankings, playing for conference championships, and playing in marquee bowl games, which all come from nice-and-shiny win-loss records. The schedule is much more difficult, which means more inconsistency and fewer wins. For instance, last year we beat USC at home and Tennessee at Neyland in September, but we also got beat up by Utah and Washington. Four consecutive tough P5 games in September took its toll and we immediately lost to Toledo and South Florida in our next two games. There were similar patterns in 2018 and 2016 (the 2017 season will forever be cast away from my memory).

Another tough issue is that BYU has scheduled a bunch of games over the next few years. So, we can't just flip a switch to add 8 AAC conference games without major contract ramifications.

BYU hasn't received an invitation from PAC12 or B12....what does BYUs fan think the reason is? Seems to me that BYU can join AAC (to make AAC and BYU stronger) and when PAC12 or B12 calls, they would leave like any other team in AAC.

(07-15-2020 03:44 PM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  

(07-15-2020 11:40 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:06 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 02:29 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 10:43 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  These type incidents is what creates rilvaries... I assure you if BYU became a member of the AAC Memphis would circle BYU's matchups almost immediately... Plus we would see other great matchups vs BYU

Houston vs BYU
Cincinnati vs BYU
UCF vs BYU
Navy vs BYU
Temple vs BYU
SMU vs BYU

Anyways you get my drift... The addition of BYU however would bring endless of opportunities for everyone involved, IMHO.

Oh but a one year temporary invite is definitely a hard NO for the blue cougars.

Too true!

Other than the UConn series, pretty much every recent BYU v. AAC game has been competitive and exciting:

BYU v. Houston: two competitive games, including a 47-46 barn burner
BYU v. UCF: two single score games, including one in OT
BYU v. Memphis: double-overtime bowl game followed by a bench-clearing brawl
BYU v. Tulsa: single score bowl game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. USF: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. ECU: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. Cincinnati: come-from-behind win

And, BYU plays the SMU Holiday Bowl highlights on the big screen nearly every home game.

I really don't understand the marriage holdup between BYU and the AAC.

Heck I'm even going to throw this out there too... The AAC with BYU in it will be twice as better than when Utah, TCU and BYU shared a conference together.

Well, the primary motivations for independence are increased exposure and better fan access - which goals the BYU football program has met in spades (when compared to the pre-independence situation). Independence does provide a strong schedule of attractive home games and nationwide fan access to marquee venues and opponents, with most of our games on national television, while still able to play the three regional rivals.

I think AAC membership would continue to help BYU to meet these primary goals, but the BYU administration continues to feel that independence places BYU on a similar level to P5 schools and someday will give us a better opportunity to join the club.

What the administration has overlooked is that you get the very best exposure by having high rankings, playing for conference championships, and playing in marquee bowl games, which all come from nice-and-shiny win-loss records. The schedule is much more difficult, which means more inconsistency and fewer wins. For instance, last year we beat USC at home and Tennessee at Neyland in September, but we also got beat up by Utah and Washington. Four consecutive tough P5 games in September took its toll and we immediately lost to Toledo and South Florida in our next two games. There were similar patterns in 2018 and 2016 (the 2017 season will forever be cast away from my memory).

Another tough issue is that BYU has scheduled a bunch of games over the next few years. So, we can't just flip a switch to add 8 AAC conference games without major contract ramifications.

BYU hasn't received an invitation from PAC12 or B12....what does BYUs fan think the reason is? Seems to me that BYU can join AAC (to make AAC and BYU stronger) and when PAC12 or B12 calls, they would leave like any other team in AAC.

Or they can join and help with our P6 campaign. At first I thought it was just a bs PR stunt but its gaining ground. What's amusing to me is if it works and we get power status BYU will 100% want to join. But at that point we wouldn't need them and would probably be better off bringing in a project add within our footprint.

(07-15-2020 05:28 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-15-2020 03:44 PM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  

(07-15-2020 11:40 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 08:06 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(07-14-2020 02:29 PM)YNot Wrote:  Too true!

Other than the UConn series, pretty much every recent BYU v. AAC game has been competitive and exciting:

BYU v. Houston: two competitive games, including a 47-46 barn burner
BYU v. UCF: two single score games, including one in OT
BYU v. Memphis: double-overtime bowl game followed by a bench-clearing brawl
BYU v. Tulsa: single score bowl game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. USF: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. ECU: single score game with a come-from-behind win
BYU v. Cincinnati: come-from-behind win

And, BYU plays the SMU Holiday Bowl highlights on the big screen nearly every home game.

I really don't understand the marriage holdup between BYU and the AAC.

Heck I'm even going to throw this out there too... The AAC with BYU in it will be twice as better than when Utah, TCU and BYU shared a conference together.

Well, the primary motivations for independence are increased exposure and better fan access - which goals the BYU football program has met in spades (when compared to the pre-independence situation). Independence does provide a strong schedule of attractive home games and nationwide fan access to marquee venues and opponents, with most of our games on national television, while still able to play the three regional rivals.

I think AAC membership would continue to help BYU to meet these primary goals, but the BYU administration continues to feel that independence places BYU on a similar level to P5 schools and someday will give us a better opportunity to join the club.

What the administration has overlooked is that you get the very best exposure by having high rankings, playing for conference championships, and playing in marquee bowl games, which all come from nice-and-shiny win-loss records. The schedule is much more difficult, which means more inconsistency and fewer wins. For instance, last year we beat USC at home and Tennessee at Neyland in September, but we also got beat up by Utah and Washington. Four consecutive tough P5 games in September took its toll and we immediately lost to Toledo and South Florida in our next two games. There were similar patterns in 2018 and 2016 (the 2017 season will forever be cast away from my memory).

Another tough issue is that BYU has scheduled a bunch of games over the next few years. So, we can't just flip a switch to add 8 AAC conference games without major contract ramifications.

BYU hasn't received an invitation from PAC12 or B12....what does BYUs fan think the reason is? Seems to me that BYU can join AAC (to make AAC and BYU stronger) and when PAC12 or B12 calls, they would leave like any other team in AAC.

Or they can join and help with our P6 campaign. At first I thought it was just a bs PR stunt but its gaining ground. What's amusing to me is if it works and we get power status BYU will 100% want to join. But at that point we wouldn't need them and would probably be better off bringing in a project add within our footprint.

Flip side of that coin is BYU joins and is then the bridge further west to bring Boise & SDSU in. With the waiver & being able to play uneven divisions if it's not renewed we're not in a dire situation at all but Aresco needs to be selling this.