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RE: FSU slashes athletic budget
(07-14-2020 04:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 03:39 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 02:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Still, ESPN has all of that minus 50% of the Big 12 rights right now and they are only having to pay the SEC schools more than 35 million with a side deal for Kansas and Texas. I don't see any financial incentive for them to head there.


The motivation is the full realization of what Disney does when it acquires things.

Buy Star Wars. Produce crap load of new merch and movies and wring it like a sponge.

Buy DC/Marvel. Produce crap load of new merch and movies and wring it like a sponge.

Buy college sports. Produce crap load of new merch non-live sports programming to cover it and movies marquee games and wring it like a sponge.


College sports, if treated as a league, is second behind only the NFL in the US IIRC? Disney will have effectively acquired the assets though for less than what it would have cost to get 50/50 ownership of all the NHL media rights. Classic Disney. Buy low. Exploit the fandom. Sell high when it's tapped out or coast on it.

That package represents nothing less than a fully autonomous unit of collegiate athletics. That's CFB content from August to January. That's CBB content from October to March. That's college baseball content from March to June. Pepper in gymnastics, volleyball, women's basketball, wrestling, wtf-ever-else you feel like broadcasting since the production studios are on campus and the people staffing them are on campus payrolls, and you've got a near year round cash cow that fills huge chunks of time. I see dump trucks full of cash and Scrooge McDuck bank vaults full of reasons for Disney to do exactly what I said. GoR contracts and politicians are the primary obstacles to bringing that mint online.

Possibly, but what the NCAA P schools should consider is breaking away from the NCAA pool their rights, produce their own product, and stream it all for subscription fees. If you keep all of the advertising revenue it will NET out at around 350-400 million per school. The threat of that gets Disney off of the 70 million mark as the zenith and maybe we get a share closer to 175-200 million per school for all sports. No threat, no leverage! We already have production facilities at all schools. We just need the shared cost of a couple of satellites delivered by SpaceX.

Even at 70 million per school in media rights if you do the math you'll see exactly what Disney is making off of us. They are paying us 50% of NET Profit, but they get to decide what is overhead. It's all in the bookkeeping and our school presidents are too damn lazy to do the math and check the expenditures.

There's you difference to get it done and make it worthwhile.

Agree with that completely.
07-14-2020 04:37 PM
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RE: FSU slashes athletic budget
(07-14-2020 04:37 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 04:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 03:39 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 02:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Still, ESPN has all of that minus 50% of the Big 12 rights right now and they are only having to pay the SEC schools more than 35 million with a side deal for Kansas and Texas. I don't see any financial incentive for them to head there.


The motivation is the full realization of what Disney does when it acquires things.

Buy Star Wars. Produce crap load of new merch and movies and wring it like a sponge.

Buy DC/Marvel. Produce crap load of new merch and movies and wring it like a sponge.

Buy college sports. Produce crap load of new merch non-live sports programming to cover it and movies marquee games and wring it like a sponge.


College sports, if treated as a league, is second behind only the NFL in the US IIRC? Disney will have effectively acquired the assets though for less than what it would have cost to get 50/50 ownership of all the NHL media rights. Classic Disney. Buy low. Exploit the fandom. Sell high when it's tapped out or coast on it.

That package represents nothing less than a fully autonomous unit of collegiate athletics. That's CFB content from August to January. That's CBB content from October to March. That's college baseball content from March to June. Pepper in gymnastics, volleyball, women's basketball, wrestling, wtf-ever-else you feel like broadcasting since the production studios are on campus and the people staffing them are on campus payrolls, and you've got a near year round cash cow that fills huge chunks of time. I see dump trucks full of cash and Scrooge McDuck bank vaults full of reasons for Disney to do exactly what I said. GoR contracts and politicians are the primary obstacles to bringing that mint online.

Possibly, but what the NCAA P schools should consider is breaking away from the NCAA pool their rights, produce their own product, and stream it all for subscription fees. If you keep all of the advertising revenue it will NET out at around 350-400 million per school. The threat of that gets Disney off of the 70 million mark as the zenith and maybe we get a share closer to 175-200 million per school for all sports. No threat, no leverage! We already have production facilities at all schools. We just need the shared cost of a couple of satellites delivered by SpaceX.

Even at 70 million per school in media rights if you do the math you'll see exactly what Disney is making off of us. They are paying us 50% of NET Profit, but they get to decide what is overhead. It's all in the bookkeeping and our school presidents are too damn lazy to do the math and check the expenditures.

There's you difference to get it done and make it worthwhile.

Agree with that completely.

And the schools all lose their tax exempt status.

Good times
07-14-2020 04:48 PM
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RE: FSU slashes athletic budget
(07-14-2020 04:48 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 04:37 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 04:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 03:39 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(07-14-2020 02:00 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Still, ESPN has all of that minus 50% of the Big 12 rights right now and they are only having to pay the SEC schools more than 35 million with a side deal for Kansas and Texas. I don't see any financial incentive for them to head there.


The motivation is the full realization of what Disney does when it acquires things.

Buy Star Wars. Produce crap load of new merch and movies and wring it like a sponge.

Buy DC/Marvel. Produce crap load of new merch and movies and wring it like a sponge.

Buy college sports. Produce crap load of new merch non-live sports programming to cover it and movies marquee games and wring it like a sponge.


College sports, if treated as a league, is second behind only the NFL in the US IIRC? Disney will have effectively acquired the assets though for less than what it would have cost to get 50/50 ownership of all the NHL media rights. Classic Disney. Buy low. Exploit the fandom. Sell high when it's tapped out or coast on it.

That package represents nothing less than a fully autonomous unit of collegiate athletics. That's CFB content from August to January. That's CBB content from October to March. That's college baseball content from March to June. Pepper in gymnastics, volleyball, women's basketball, wrestling, wtf-ever-else you feel like broadcasting since the production studios are on campus and the people staffing them are on campus payrolls, and you've got a near year round cash cow that fills huge chunks of time. I see dump trucks full of cash and Scrooge McDuck bank vaults full of reasons for Disney to do exactly what I said. GoR contracts and politicians are the primary obstacles to bringing that mint online.

Possibly, but what the NCAA P schools should consider is breaking away from the NCAA pool their rights, produce their own product, and stream it all for subscription fees. If you keep all of the advertising revenue it will NET out at around 350-400 million per school. The threat of that gets Disney off of the 70 million mark as the zenith and maybe we get a share closer to 175-200 million per school for all sports. No threat, no leverage! We already have production facilities at all schools. We just need the shared cost of a couple of satellites delivered by SpaceX.

Even at 70 million per school in media rights if you do the math you'll see exactly what Disney is making off of us. They are paying us 50% of NET Profit, but they get to decide what is overhead. It's all in the bookkeeping and our school presidents are too damn lazy to do the math and check the expenditures.

There's you difference to get it done and make it worthwhile.

Agree with that completely.

And the schools all lose their tax exempt status.

Good times

That's not a given. It depends on how the new structure is incorporated or structured. Mandatory reinvestment in academics out of the Athletic profits would go a long way to eliminating that and remember these are state schools. Their legislatures don't want their state schools to lose that status because it costs them more. But it is time to petition for the right of the schools to set aside 2 years worth of revenue for calamities like this so they aren't all facing financial ruin when sports can't be played.
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