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WHAT’S IT GONNA BE BOY

I think they're waiting to see if there's any way to preserve all those ACC/SEC match-ups.

Clemson v S Carolina
FSU v Florida
GT v Georgia
Louisville v Kentucky
UNC v Auburn
NC State v Miss State
Virginia v Georgia

Possibly even Notre Dame v Arkansas?

This year it's a lot more than just 4 games at stake.

Obviously it is easier to cancel a huge event than schedule one at the last minute...

There are lots of moving parts to a game.

I think it is a given at best, we see capacities at games of 25-50%. The latest spike has hit areas really not too affected save for areas like Miami and LA. So even SEC schools' realize "It doesn't always mean more".

Staffing and food prep will be easier with less fans. Ticketing will have issues but computers help. Large season ticket holder bases will have lots of pissed off fans. For Food n merchandise: I think schools will go cashless and use touchless pay as much as possible. Hand sanitizer will be a high growth business for years.

All that said you still need 3-4 weeks minimum notice to cancel. IMHO, the ACC could delay final call to early August. The league's first game is the Wednesday before Labor Day.

Syracuse is the school most affected by this. Being indoors they likely will be very restricted on capacity. Ironically, they could be in the best situation for basketball.

(07-10-2020 04:25 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I think they're waiting to see if there's any way to preserve all those ACC/SEC match-ups.

Clemson v S Carolina
FSU v Florida
GT v Georgia
Louisville v Kentucky
UNC v Auburn
NC State v Miss State
Virginia v Georgia

Possibly even Notre Dame v Arkansas?

This year it's a lot more than just 4 games at stake.

$0.02: It's smarter to cancel. In what universe is Cavman going to even do respectable against UGAg? How about GT still fielding a team over 50% designed for the option? You feel good about Coach Dadgummit 2.0 against Auburn? A reeling FSU against UF?

(07-11-2020 12:54 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 04:25 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I think they're waiting to see if there's any way to preserve all those ACC/SEC match-ups.

Clemson v S Carolina
FSU v Florida
GT v Georgia
Louisville v Kentucky
UNC v Auburn
NC State v Miss State
Virginia v Georgia

Possibly even Notre Dame v Arkansas?

This year it's a lot more than just 4 games at stake.

$0.02: It's smarter to cancel. In what universe is Cavman going to even do respectable against UGAg? How about GT still fielding a team over 50% designed for the option? You feel good about Coach Dadgummit 2.0 against Auburn? A reeling FSU against UF?

What was I thinking? The ACC should probably have everyone except Clemson cancel football. The Tigers can pick up all those cancelled ACC/SEC games and play Georgia and Auburn the first week, Mississippi State, a few byes, then Notre Dame, a few more byes to rest until Rivalry Week -- they'll need it in order to play Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Kentucky all in the same weekend!

But hey, that's a very impressive 8-game schedule. Go 8-0 or 7-1 against that bunch and they'll be sure to get a playoff spot -- if only there IS a playoff!

(07-11-2020 01:01 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  What was I thinking? The ACC should probably have everyone except Clemson cancel football. The Tigers can pick up all those cancelled ACC/SEC games and play Georgia and Auburn the first week, Mississippi State, a few byes, then Notre Dame, a few more byes to rest until Rivalry Week -- they'll need it in order to play Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Kentucky all in the same weekend!

But hey, that's a very impressive 8-game schedule. Go 8-0 or 7-1 against that bunch and they'll be sure to get a playoff spot -- if only there IS a playoff!

Everybody but Clemson in those matchups is either down or coming back from being very down. FSU, GT, UNC, and UofL will all be dramatically better in another season.

The delay is to work out he Notre Dame question.
Interesting story out of Durham.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...games-2020

The ACC has considered moving to a conference-only schedule, according to sources, but no decision has been made. Stadium reported that Notre Dame could be a part of that plan, too, but Cutcliffe said any inclusion of the Fighting Irish should be contingent on revenue sharing.

“If they’re willing to share their money, sure,” Cutcliffe said. “But nobody gets something for nothing.”

Either somebody is in favor of taking advantage of the situation or the bloom is off of the Rose.

(07-11-2020 01:04 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-11-2020 01:01 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  What was I thinking? The ACC should probably have everyone except Clemson cancel football. The Tigers can pick up all those cancelled ACC/SEC games and play Georgia and Auburn the first week, Mississippi State, a few byes, then Notre Dame, a few more byes to rest until Rivalry Week -- they'll need it in order to play Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Kentucky all in the same weekend!

But hey, that's a very impressive 8-game schedule. Go 8-0 or 7-1 against that bunch and they'll be sure to get a playoff spot -- if only there IS a playoff!

Everybody but Clemson in those matchups is either down or coming back from being very down. FSU, GT, UNC, and UofL will all be dramatically better in another season.

None of that is the issue. The issue is that the only way conference's can still maintain or even slightly grow their revenue is to have all games in house. You get reduced revenue at neutral venues. So the conference loses half of the value and percentages more go to the venue site. So each participating schools walks away if they are lucky with 30% of the revenue or less. Let Auburn or UNC play a conference game and the conference gains 70% or more for that one telecast and all its member schools earn gate instead of losing it to an away OOC game or a neutral venue.

This purely about salvaging revenue in a crappy situation, nothing more. Even if the SEC and ACC have 6 games with each other both conferences lose revenue or gate on half of the games even if they are all home and away which they aren't.

This year the SEC would make more with Georgia replacing Tech with L.S.U., Florida replacing FSU with Auburn, South Carolina replacing Clemson with Alabama, and Kentucky replacing Louisville with Ole Miss. The neutral site or other OOC P games between us will lose one or the other conference revenue and the only one wanting to keep those games outside of the home team in the rivalry games is ESPN. ESPN gets paid either way. We don't. Own both sides of the contest and the conference wins. So this is one time when what is in ESPN's best interest is not necessarily in the best interests of the SEC and ACC.

(07-11-2020 03:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-11-2020 01:04 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-11-2020 01:01 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  What was I thinking? The ACC should probably have everyone except Clemson cancel football. The Tigers can pick up all those cancelled ACC/SEC games and play Georgia and Auburn the first week, Mississippi State, a few byes, then Notre Dame, a few more byes to rest until Rivalry Week -- they'll need it in order to play Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Kentucky all in the same weekend!

But hey, that's a very impressive 8-game schedule. Go 8-0 or 7-1 against that bunch and they'll be sure to get a playoff spot -- if only there IS a playoff!

Everybody but Clemson in those matchups is either down or coming back from being very down. FSU, GT, UNC, and UofL will all be dramatically better in another season.

None of that is the issue. The issue is that the only way conference's can still maintain or even slightly grow their revenue is to have all games in house. You get reduced revenue at neutral venues. So the conference loses half of the value and percentages more go to the venue site. So each participating schools walks away if they are lucky with 30% of the revenue or less. Let Auburn or UNC play a conference game and the conference gains 70% or more for that one telecast and all its member schools earn gate instead of losing it to an away OOC game or a neutral venue.

This purely about salvaging revenue in a crappy situation, nothing more. Even if the SEC and ACC have 6 games with each other both conferences lose revenue or gate on half of the games even if they are all home and away which they aren't.

This year the SEC would make more with Georgia replacing Tech with L.S.U., Florida replacing FSU with Auburn, South Carolina replacing Clemson with Alabama, and Kentucky replacing Louisville with Ole Miss. The neutral site or other OOC P games between us will lose one or the other conference revenue and the only one wanting to keep those games outside of the home team in the rivalry games is ESPN. ESPN gets paid either way. We don't. Own both sides of the contest and the conference wins. So this is one time when what is in ESPN's best interest is not necessarily in the best interests of the SEC and ACC.

I was thinking the same thing that the B1G and Pac 12 are not thinking about the student athletes or some safety reason. It is all about the $$$$. By having all conference games you are bringing in all of the $$ for all of the games to the conference. Given the liklihood that there will be no fans at the games, they have to boost the number of TV games for the conference which is why all of the Power 5 conferences will probably go in house and only play within the conference.
This makes sense after listening to Duke's football coach commenting about Notre Dame sharing the revenue with the ACC, so it is the dollars that are the big concern for the Power 5 conference commissioners.