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(07-20-2020 02:38 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well I had 3 friends that went to get tested because one of their co-workers tested positive.. While standing in line to get tested they filled out the paperwork.. The wait once they got there was said to be at least an hour.. an hour and a half later the line had moved maybe half way so they just turned in the paperwork and said they would come back later in the week.. 3 days later they were called and were told they were all positive for Covid.. They told them they were not even tested yet and all they did was turn in the paperwork to come back at a later time.. What an Absolute Joke.. They finally got tested somewhere else and were all negative..

Same thing happened to a friend of mine in Nashville. Exactly the same thing.
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(07-20-2020 02:51 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(07-20-2020 02:38 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well I had 3 friends that went to get tested because one of their co-workers tested positive.. While standing in line to get tested they filled out the paperwork.. The wait once they got there was said to be at least an hour.. an hour and a half later the line had moved maybe half way so they just turned in the paperwork and said they would come back later in the week.. 3 days later they were called and were told they were all positive for Covid.. They told them they were not even tested yet and all they did was turn in the paperwork to come back at a later time.. What an Absolute Joke.. They finally got tested somewhere else and were all negative..

Same thing happened to a friend of mine in Nashville. Exactly the same thing.
The numbers are so skewed in more ways than one.. People dying and being shown as covid death when it wasn’t, it’s become ridiculous..
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(07-20-2020 02:56 PM)tigergg Wrote:  
(07-20-2020 02:51 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(07-20-2020 02:38 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Well I had 3 friends that went to get tested because one of their co-workers tested positive.. While standing in line to get tested they filled out the paperwork.. The wait once they got there was said to be at least an hour.. an hour and a half later the line had moved maybe half way so they just turned in the paperwork and said they would come back later in the week.. 3 days later they were called and were told they were all positive for Covid.. They told them they were not even tested yet and all they did was turn in the paperwork to come back at a later time.. What an Absolute Joke.. They finally got tested somewhere else and were all negative..

Same thing happened to a friend of mine in Nashville. Exactly the same thing.
The numbers are so skewed in more ways than one.. People dying and being shown as covid death when it wasn’t, it’s become ridiculous..

Absolutely. It’s beyond ridiculous
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Calling BS on that anecdote.
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is the thought that mistakes that make the positives greater equal to the mistakes that make the negatives greater?

sounds like the voter fraud discussions.
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(07-20-2020 03:20 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Calling BS on that anecdote.

Ive seen it copy-pasted on Facebook about a dozen times. Almost to the word but with different city names.
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(07-20-2020 03:20 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Calling BS on that anecdote.

Sorry, not BS. And neither is the situation with blank swabs testing positive. Happening everywhere.
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where is andy wise when you need him ?
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(07-20-2020 03:20 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Calling BS on that anecdote.
You can think BS all you want but I wouldn’t have wasted my time typing it if it weren’t true..
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(07-20-2020 04:30 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(07-20-2020 03:20 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Calling BS on that anecdote.

Sorry, not BS. And neither is the situation with blank swabs testing positive. Happening everywhere.

And neither are the death numbers. They are counting deaths for anyone who has or thought to have Covid no matter what the cause of death is.
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OMG...

So there is a grand conspiracy going on across the nation of running the number up by any means necessary and the people doing it are so disciplined that that they are able to hide it from everyone across the country.

And not only are the testing centers running up the numbers...They have coordinated with the hospitals to make sure that areas that have higher numbers of positives also misreport their hospitalizations and deaths to make it more believable. These M'fers are gooooood


The world is flat...
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As part of the CARES act, anyone treated for COVID gets the hospital a 20% premium on medicare payments. Treating someone for the flu? Assume COVID and you get more money.

Hospitals get paid more for reporting the death as a COVID death. There are plenty of videos out there of officials clarifying how they decide it's COVID or not. Car accident? If you test positive for COVID it's coded as a COVID death. Die from the flu? It's a cardiovascular disease, so no reason to test... COVID death.

Even the CDC's death page (which looks really good) is throwing in "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza".

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid.../index.htm

Take a look at that first chart.
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I miss the days when we argued vociferously on here about sports.
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(07-21-2020 08:47 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  As part of the CARES act, anyone treated for COVID gets the hospital a 20% premium on medicare payments. Treating someone for the flu? Assume COVID and you get more money.

Hospitals get paid more for reporting the death as a COVID death. There are plenty of videos out there of officials clarifying how they decide it's COVID or not. Car accident? If you test positive for COVID it's coded as a COVID death. Die from the flu? It's a cardiovascular disease, so no reason to test... COVID death.

Even the CDC's death page (which looks really good) is throwing in "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza".

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid.../index.htm

Take a look at that first chart.
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Videos posted on social media.

Hmmmm...I wonder why they are getting removed.

Deep State?

Or could it be a more logical reason?

And for your chart...The data you posted is Filtered for Corona only...The chart contains all 3 of the measures if you select all deaths. Click to page 2 to see the details.

If you filter the chart for all deaths (Which includes Flu and and pneumonia)...There seems to be an uptick in total deaths that corresponds to when the Coronavirus Deaths spike. Logically that would indicate that all those additional deaths weren't misclassified.

Those darned facts.
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(07-21-2020 09:14 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(07-21-2020 08:47 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  As part of the CARES act, anyone treated for COVID gets the hospital a 20% premium on medicare payments. Treating someone for the flu? Assume COVID and you get more money.

Hospitals get paid more for reporting the death as a COVID death. There are plenty of videos out there of officials clarifying how they decide it's COVID or not. Car accident? If you test positive for COVID it's coded as a COVID death. Die from the flu? It's a cardiovascular disease, so no reason to test... COVID death.

Even the CDC's death page (which looks really good) is throwing in "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza".

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid.../index.htm

Take a look at that first chart.
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Videos posted on social media.

Hmmmm...I wonder why they are getting removed.

Deep State?

Or could it be a more logical reason?

I haven't heard of the legit ones being removed. You haven't seen them because you choose not to look.

Illinois
Dr. Ngozi Ezike, Illinois Department of Public Health director




And now she has changed what she said in April
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavi...s/2270810/
Quote:“We are trying to make sure that things that aren’t related at all to the COVID diagnosis are removed, but if someone has another illness, like heart disease, and then had a stroke or other event, it’s not as easy to separate that and say COVID didn’t exacerbate that existing illness. That would not be removed from the count,” she added.

Colorado (announcing it was changing the way they count deaths to the right way)
https://covid19.colorado.gov/press-relea...-reporting
Quote:DENVER (May 15, 2020): The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) today explained the way it has been counting deaths among people with COVID-19 and announced an addition to data reporting going forward.

CDPHE explained that to date, its data dashboard included deaths among all people who had COVID-19 at the time of death. This included deaths caused by COVID-19 and deaths among people who had COVID-19 at the time of death, but the cause or causes may not have been attributed to COVID-19 on the death certificate. This is the standard way states report to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
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(07-21-2020 08:47 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  As part of the CARES act, anyone treated for COVID gets the hospital a 20% premium on medicare payments. Treating someone for the flu? Assume COVID and you get more money.

Hospitals get paid more for reporting the death as a COVID death. There are plenty of videos out there of officials clarifying how they decide it's COVID or not. Car accident? If you test positive for COVID it's coded as a COVID death. Die from the flu? It's a cardiovascular disease, so no reason to test... COVID death.

Even the CDC's death page (which looks really good) is throwing in "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza".

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid.../index.htm

Take a look at that first chart.
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wow, you would think deaths were moving the opposite direction based on media coverage.
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(07-21-2020 09:40 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(07-21-2020 08:47 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  As part of the CARES act, anyone treated for COVID gets the hospital a 20% premium on medicare payments. Treating someone for the flu? Assume COVID and you get more money.

Hospitals get paid more for reporting the death as a COVID death. There are plenty of videos out there of officials clarifying how they decide it's COVID or not. Car accident? If you test positive for COVID it's coded as a COVID death. Die from the flu? It's a cardiovascular disease, so no reason to test... COVID death.

Even the CDC's death page (which looks really good) is throwing in "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza".

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid.../index.htm

Take a look at that first chart.
[Image: P4tNfPb.png?1]

wow, you would think deaths were moving the opposite direction based on media coverage.

They're saying that cases are still increasing significantly, but far less people are dying. Part of that is that the early deaths were the most vulnerable (immunocompromised and the elderly). Now younger people are getting it more frequently and they're not dying nearly as often from it. Not even close.

Plus, less people are dying from the flu because the flu is out of season... so those can no longer be counted as "COVID" deaths.
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I heard a pro athlete on the radio - can't recall which one, I think MLB - who has tested positive. He has no symptoms but is quarantining until he gets 2 consecutive negatives. He gets tested every day. He's had 6 positives so far. All of these multiple positive TESTS for the one singular case are getting reported as positive CASES by the media, as well.
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(07-21-2020 09:40 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(07-21-2020 08:47 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  As part of the CARES act, anyone treated for COVID gets the hospital a 20% premium on medicare payments. Treating someone for the flu? Assume COVID and you get more money.

Hospitals get paid more for reporting the death as a COVID death. There are plenty of videos out there of officials clarifying how they decide it's COVID or not. Car accident? If you test positive for COVID it's coded as a COVID death. Die from the flu? It's a cardiovascular disease, so no reason to test... COVID death.

Even the CDC's death page (which looks really good) is throwing in "Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza".

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid.../index.htm

Take a look at that first chart.
[Image: P4tNfPb.png?1]

wow, you would think deaths were moving the opposite direction based on media coverage.

Go read the actual source for that data, you will notice that the notes say that there is a 1-8 week lag in reporting. Whatever screenshot that is is from 7/11. Cumulative deaths have already increased to over 2.1K in that week. Any data after mid-May in that chart is incomplete.

Here is source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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Also, if you want to get rid of "Covid bias" in death reporting - you are in luck because its pretty easy. You just look total numbers of deaths from all causes in the US vs historical trends.

CDC tracks this data here (data through June 3): https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid...deaths.htm

Data shows that total deaths from all causes about 125K above the upper bound of models of expected deaths in 2020 through June 3rd.

Unless you think the US is also cooking the books on death certificates issued, that sounds like a problem
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