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Exclamation XFL relaunch, relaunching(USFL relaunch)
The XFL is for sale with bids due by July 30. If things play out as some see it, with no fall football at any level, the next football we could see would be the XFL. If you didn’t watch before, would you watch then??? Also, could make for some interesting rosters depending on who is ready to play, wants to play, and leaves college without playing this season.

If this happens, and this is the next football we get, I hope for some expansion, 8 teams is not enough.
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Unless they allow ownership of individual franchises this is dead on arrival.

Add to that the fact that for most player the significant virus risk will not be with it of the pay is at the AAFL or XFL levels. You already have CFL players from the states (James Wilder Jr is one) retiring or sitting out this season

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I will certainly watch. And might actually pick a team to root for this time...
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(07-09-2020 06:12 PM)panama Wrote:  Unless they allow ownership of individual franchises this is dead on arrival.

Add to that the fact that for most player the significant virus risk will not be with it of the pay is at the AAFL or XFL levels. You already have CFL players from the states (James Wilder Jr is one) retiring or sitting out this season

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This. The owners are just trying to cut their losses. They know it’s doomed but are hoping some sucker is out there that will take it off their plate.
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First, we are talking about a season that would be 6 months away. Who knows how all this BS will be working in 6 months.

Second, I agree, it needs to be franchises. As far as pay goes, I think the AAF and the XFL over paid for their talent. Unless you are trying to pull guys off the benches of NFL rosters, you don’t pay NFL wages to guys that would probably play for half of what they were paid.
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(07-09-2020 08:12 PM)Usajags Wrote:  First, we are talking about a season that would be 6 months away. Who knows how all this BS will be working in 6 months.

Second, I agree, it needs to be franchises. As far as pay goes, I think the AAF and the XFL over paid for their talent. Unless you are trying to pull guys off the benches of NFL rosters, you don’t pay NFL wages to guys that would probably play for half of what they were paid.

And The Rock buys the XFL for $15 million

https://www.si.com/xfl/2020/08/03/dwyne-...15-million
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Could the XFL be the answer the NCAA needs to the rising desire for college football players to be paid???
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(08-03-2020 09:06 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(07-09-2020 08:12 PM)Usajags Wrote:  First, we are talking about a season that would be 6 months away. Who knows how all this BS will be working in 6 months.

Second, I agree, it needs to be franchises. As far as pay goes, I think the AAF and the XFL over paid for their talent. Unless you are trying to pull guys off the benches of NFL rosters, you don’t pay NFL wages to guys that would probably play for half of what they were paid.

And The Rock buys the XFL for $15 million

https://www.si.com/xfl/2020/08/03/dwyne-...15-million

Looking forward to seeing where this goes.
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(08-03-2020 12:25 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(08-03-2020 09:06 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  
(07-09-2020 08:12 PM)Usajags Wrote:  First, we are talking about a season that would be 6 months away. Who knows how all this BS will be working in 6 months.

Second, I agree, it needs to be franchises. As far as pay goes, I think the AAF and the XFL over paid for their talent. Unless you are trying to pull guys off the benches of NFL rosters, you don’t pay NFL wages to guys that would probably play for half of what they were paid.

And The Rock buys the XFL for $15 million

https://www.si.com/xfl/2020/08/03/dwyne-...15-million

Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

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It will be a total bust again
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Still think not selling franchises is a big mistake.

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(08-05-2020 02:25 PM)panama Wrote:  Still think not selling franchises is a big mistake.

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I’ve also not understood the no franchise decision. Why not run it like every other pro sports, except MLS, in this country. Even minor league sports are franchises not owned by the league.
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I'm hoping the XFL could be a way to deal with the players not getting "paid" that really don't want to go to college. I hope they can keep it to spring league and not try to compete with college and pro sports. Maybe kids go can straight out of high school to XFL?
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(08-06-2020 09:20 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I'm hoping the XFL could be a way to deal with the players not getting "paid" that really don't want to go to college. I hope they can keep it to spring league and not try to compete with college and pro sports. Maybe kids go can straight out of high school to XFL?

That is exactly what it needs to become. A true minor league to the NFL and an option outside of college. You don’t want the education/college experience, you need/want to make money now, go XFL.
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They need to decide what they are. Either you're a semi pro feeder league like Arena Football League or youre a spring Pro Football League. If you're a feeder minor league then you do not need to be in 50k seat stadiums. And they need to recognize that if ownership is centralized that ends up being an enormous weekly cost in operating costs.

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(08-06-2020 02:45 PM)panama Wrote:  They need to decide what they are. Either you're a semi pro feeder league like Arena Football League or youre a spring Pro Football League. If you're a feeder minor league then you do not need to be in 50k seat stadiums. And they need to recognize that if ownership is centralized that ends up being an enormous weekly cost in operating costs.

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They need to be in non major league cities, where they are the big name on town. It ridiculous to think you can go into an NFL city and anyone will care. Now, take it into Birmingham, San Antonio, Orlando and you get noticed, and they all have stadiums that need to be used. The AAF had it right when they were trying to work with the NFL, you have got to be minor league system in support of the NFL.
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(08-06-2020 03:55 PM)Usajags Wrote:  They need to be in non major league cities, where they are the big name on town. It ridiculous to think you can go into an NFL city and anyone will care. Now, take it into Birmingham, San Antonio, Orlando and you get noticed, and they all have stadiums that need to be used. The AAF had it right when they were trying to work with the NFL, you have got to be minor league system in support of the NFL.

You NAILED it.

Those cities you actually listed (Birmingham, Orlando, and San Antonio) had the highest average attendance when the AAF had their short-lived season.

San Antonio was #1
Orlando was #2
Birmingham was #4.

Someone needs to get this through their heads. The support will be stronger when you locate your club in smaller metro areas, because the locals will take pride in it.

Now, if those teams wound up growing substantially, I think that's when you look into making a move to a bigger city to compete with an NFL franchise for support.
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(08-06-2020 03:55 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(08-06-2020 02:45 PM)panama Wrote:  They need to decide what they are. Either you're a semi pro feeder league like Arena Football League or youre a spring Pro Football League. If you're a feeder minor league then you do not need to be in 50k seat stadiums. And they need to recognize that if ownership is centralized that ends up being an enormous weekly cost in operating costs.

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They need to be in non major league cities, where they are the big name on town. It ridiculous to think you can go into an NFL city and anyone will care. Now, take it into Birmingham, San Antonio, Orlando and you get noticed, and they all have stadiums that need to be used. The AAF had it right when they were trying to work with the NFL, you have got to be minor league system in support of the NFL.
Still have to figure out who you are. Are you Arena League or USFL. A spring league in medium and large cities could work but I think they need to sell franchises to folks with deep pockets and sizeable egos.

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(08-06-2020 05:50 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(08-06-2020 03:55 PM)Usajags Wrote:  They need to be in non major league cities, where they are the big name on town. It ridiculous to think you can go into an NFL city and anyone will care. Now, take it into Birmingham, San Antonio, Orlando and you get noticed, and they all have stadiums that need to be used. The AAF had it right when they were trying to work with the NFL, you have got to be minor league system in support of the NFL.

You NAILED it.

Those cities you actually listed (Birmingham, Orlando, and San Antonio) had the highest average attendance when the AAF had their short-lived season.

San Antonio was #1
Orlando was #2
Birmingham was #4.

Someone needs to get this through their heads. The support will be stronger when you locate your club in smaller metro areas, because the locals will take pride in it.

Now, if those teams wound up growing substantially, I think that's when you look into making a move to a bigger city to compete with an NFL franchise for support.
I partially agree. The USFL had a good mix of cities with no NFL team and major TV markets.

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The AAF had it more right on the cities they were in. In the spring there is a desire for football on TV, the USFL screwed up when they decided to up against the NFL in the fall.

They do need to play in stadiums that are the proper size, not 80k+ seat stadiums, but in stadiums that are under 50k.
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