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(07-10-2020 03:04 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:13 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 12:32 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Pretty certain that we will not have football this year which is going to be absolutely devastating to most CFB programs, including Cincinnati's. How our federal government and several states (mostly in the South) have handled this crisis is absolutely abysmal and now we are reaping what they have sown. Death rates are rising again after a steady decline just as anticipated after the spike in COVID cases from states opening too early. Can't wait to see what flawed logic the righties on this board come up with to defend our country's horrible response and lack of leadership. America makes the same mistakes over and over again, we always prioritize short term quarterly profits over long term growth. How many people and small businesses need to die before we understand that? "bUt LoOk At tHE sTOcK MarKEt?" Give me a break...our country doesn't deserve college football this year, most of this board doesn't deserve college football this year.

And all those protest super spreaders.

Funny, how is it that New York, one of the epicenters of the BLM protests, has gotten COVID under control whereas Texas, which opened too fast, is seeing major spikes?



Maybe a couple of thousand protesters don't have as much of an impact as millions of people operating as if COVID isn't a thing? But okay, keep clamoring herp derp TDS...maybe a canceled football season will finally get it through your thick skulls, which is sad because you'd think record unemployment and 120,000+ death count would be enough.

IMO, the daily change maps appear to be indicating that New York and New Jersey have reached herd immunity. I think Texas and Florida locked down before it was widespread unlike the north east, and what they are seeing is just their first wave of cases.

(07-10-2020 03:40 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:04 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:13 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 12:32 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Pretty certain that we will not have football this year which is going to be absolutely devastating to most CFB programs, including Cincinnati's. How our federal government and several states (mostly in the South) have handled this crisis is absolutely abysmal and now we are reaping what they have sown. Death rates are rising again after a steady decline just as anticipated after the spike in COVID cases from states opening too early. Can't wait to see what flawed logic the righties on this board come up with to defend our country's horrible response and lack of leadership. America makes the same mistakes over and over again, we always prioritize short term quarterly profits over long term growth. How many people and small businesses need to die before we understand that? "bUt LoOk At tHE sTOcK MarKEt?" Give me a break...our country doesn't deserve college football this year, most of this board doesn't deserve college football this year.

And all those protest super spreaders.

Funny, how is it that New York, one of the epicenters of the BLM protests, has gotten COVID under control whereas Texas, which opened too fast, is seeing major spikes?



Maybe a couple of thousand protesters don't have as much of an impact as millions of people operating as if COVID isn't a thing? But okay, keep clamoring herp derp TDS...maybe a canceled football season will finally get it through your thick skulls, which is sad because you'd think record unemployment and 120,000+ death count would be enough.

IMO, the daily change maps appear to be indicating that New York and New Jersey have reached herd immunity. I think Texas and Florida locked down before it was widespread unlike the north east, and what they are seeing is just their first wave of cases.

Experts generally say ~60-70% of the population needs to be infected to achieve herd immunity, the estimated infected rate in NYC is around 25% currently. People are wearing masks and businesses that are high-risk for infection (indoor restaurants, gyms, boutique fitness studios, bars, etc.) are still closed. Additionally, public transit (buses and subways) are used sparingly by most New Yorkers. I don't think herd immunity is a major contributor to the decline. Increased testing leading to quarantine for positive tests and taking the necessary precautions seems to be the leading factor. NYC's response has been far from perfect, I'll be the first to admit that, but at least we seem to be on the right track now.

(07-10-2020 03:04 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:13 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 12:32 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Pretty certain that we will not have football this year which is going to be absolutely devastating to most CFB programs, including Cincinnati's. How our federal government and several states (mostly in the South) have handled this crisis is absolutely abysmal and now we are reaping what they have sown. Death rates are rising again after a steady decline just as anticipated after the spike in COVID cases from states opening too early. Can't wait to see what flawed logic the righties on this board come up with to defend our country's horrible response and lack of leadership. America makes the same mistakes over and over again, we always prioritize short term quarterly profits over long term growth. How many people and small businesses need to die before we understand that? "bUt LoOk At tHE sTOcK MarKEt?" Give me a break...our country doesn't deserve college football this year, most of this board doesn't deserve college football this year.

And all those protest super spreaders.

Funny, how is it that New York, one of the epicenters of the BLM protests, has gotten COVID under control whereas Texas, which opened too fast, is seeing major spikes?



Maybe a couple of thousand protesters don't have as much of an impact as millions of people operating as if COVID isn't a thing? But okay, keep clamoring herp derp TDS...maybe a canceled football season will finally get it through your thick skulls, which is sad because you'd think record unemployment and 120,000+ death count would be enough.

The record unemployment is because of the shutdowns...cause, meet effect.

You know...that goose and gander thing.

Oh...and just for perspective

Top causes of death in the US

Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Covid would go around here at the highest estimates
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

(07-10-2020 04:33 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:04 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:13 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 12:32 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Pretty certain that we will not have football this year which is going to be absolutely devastating to most CFB programs, including Cincinnati's. How our federal government and several states (mostly in the South) have handled this crisis is absolutely abysmal and now we are reaping what they have sown. Death rates are rising again after a steady decline just as anticipated after the spike in COVID cases from states opening too early. Can't wait to see what flawed logic the righties on this board come up with to defend our country's horrible response and lack of leadership. America makes the same mistakes over and over again, we always prioritize short term quarterly profits over long term growth. How many people and small businesses need to die before we understand that? "bUt LoOk At tHE sTOcK MarKEt?" Give me a break...our country doesn't deserve college football this year, most of this board doesn't deserve college football this year.

And all those protest super spreaders.

Funny, how is it that New York, one of the epicenters of the BLM protests, has gotten COVID under control whereas Texas, which opened too fast, is seeing major spikes?



Maybe a couple of thousand protesters don't have as much of an impact as millions of people operating as if COVID isn't a thing? But okay, keep clamoring herp derp TDS...maybe a canceled football season will finally get it through your thick skulls, which is sad because you'd think record unemployment and 120,000+ death count would be enough.

The record unemployment is because of the shutdowns...cause, meet effect.

You know...that goose and gander thing.

Oh...and just for perspective

Top causes of death in the US

Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Covid would go around here at the highest estimates
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

These statistics are the 2017 causes of death for the year in the United States. COVID is up to 136K deaths as of today and the significant number of deaths from the virus started in April, basically 3.5 months. You do the math on what that number would look like for an entire year. Multiply that by some factor if the states weren't actively taking precautionary measures.

Also maybe do some research on how the change in US unemployment numbers are fairing against most other first world countries. I'll wait.

Let’s hear it for America. Panic porn for anyone who wants to gobble it up.

COVID is not even the biggest infectious disease we face.

Cases:
Influenza: 1 billion infections per year
Malaria: 300-600 million
COVID: 12.6 million confirmed so far

Deaths:
Flu: 291,000 to 646,000
Malaria: over 1 million
COVID: 560,000 so far

COVID's death rate is high because the first wave took doctors by surprise, and they didn't know how to treat it at first. But the death rate has been dropping steadily as it works its way around the globe.

(07-10-2020 03:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Can we get back to hating the B10 instead of bringing politics into yet another thread? We have 2-3 of those going if you all want to take it there.

....Nope...

Shocking that you morons would derail another thread. Go play on Reddit or wherever your crap will be lionized, and you can feel good about your leanings in an echo chamber of your own making. This is pathetic.

(07-10-2020 01:30 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  The US comprises 4.4% of the total world population.

The US also comprises 24.3% of all Covid-deaths.

TDS is convincing yourself that the richest country in the world has somehow done an admirable job.

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Did China write that graph? The fact of the matter is no one knows what to believe because no one can be trusted anymore. How am I supposed to listen to politicians say to shut down businesses and wear masks while on the other hand it is ok to gather in the streets with thousands of protesters. The protests ruined any chance of them looking credible, so there you have it we don't give a damn anymore.

(07-10-2020 03:18 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Can we get back to hating the B10 instead of bringing politics into yet another thread? We have 2-3 of those going if you all want to take it there.

COVID is not political, it's f*cking science. Most on this board don't seem to understand that. Cause meet effect.

You sound a bit like one of Greta Thunberg’s goons...of course they largely abandoned her recently to use the exact same how dare you tactics for a different vein of panic porn.

Relax. This will all vanish quietly by mid November.

(07-10-2020 09:24 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:18 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Can we get back to hating the B10 instead of bringing politics into yet another thread? We have 2-3 of those going if you all want to take it there.

COVID is not political, it's f*cking science. Most on this board don't seem to understand that. Cause meet effect.

You sound a bit like one of Greta Thunberg’s goons...of course they largely abandoned her recently to use the exact same how dare you tactics for a different vein of panic porn.

Relax. This will all vanish quietly by mid November.

Be quite convenient won't it

(07-10-2020 09:24 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:18 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:06 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Can we get back to hating the B10 instead of bringing politics into yet another thread? We have 2-3 of those going if you all want to take it there.

COVID is not political, it's f*cking science. Most on this board don't seem to understand that. Cause meet effect.

You sound a bit like one of Greta Thunberg’s goons...of course they largely abandoned her recently to use the exact same how dare you tactics for a different vein of panic porn.

Relax. This will all vanish quietly by mid November.

Damn, it's wild that the rest of the world has bought into all this hysteria and tanked their economies over a US election.

Surprised jarr hasn't asked why Brannen isn't recruiting Barron at the 4.

(07-10-2020 05:11 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 04:33 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:04 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:13 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 12:32 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Pretty certain that we will not have football this year which is going to be absolutely devastating to most CFB programs, including Cincinnati's. How our federal government and several states (mostly in the South) have handled this crisis is absolutely abysmal and now we are reaping what they have sown. Death rates are rising again after a steady decline just as anticipated after the spike in COVID cases from states opening too early. Can't wait to see what flawed logic the righties on this board come up with to defend our country's horrible response and lack of leadership. America makes the same mistakes over and over again, we always prioritize short term quarterly profits over long term growth. How many people and small businesses need to die before we understand that? "bUt LoOk At tHE sTOcK MarKEt?" Give me a break...our country doesn't deserve college football this year, most of this board doesn't deserve college football this year.

And all those protest super spreaders.

Funny, how is it that New York, one of the epicenters of the BLM protests, has gotten COVID under control whereas Texas, which opened too fast, is seeing major spikes?



Maybe a couple of thousand protesters don't have as much of an impact as millions of people operating as if COVID isn't a thing? But okay, keep clamoring herp derp TDS...maybe a canceled football season will finally get it through your thick skulls, which is sad because you'd think record unemployment and 120,000+ death count would be enough.

The record unemployment is because of the shutdowns...cause, meet effect.

You know...that goose and gander thing.

Oh...and just for perspective

Top causes of death in the US

Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Covid would go around here at the highest estimates
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

These statistics are the 2017 causes of death for the year in the United States. COVID is up to 136K deaths as of today and the significant number of deaths from the virus started in April, basically 3.5 months. You do the math on what that number would look like for an entire year. Multiply that by some factor if the states weren't actively taking precautionary measures.

Also maybe do some research on how the change in US unemployment numbers are fairing against most other first world countries. I'll wait.

lol i as thinking the same thing, like did converll even try to do some simple math before posting?

We are at 135,000 and it’s not even flu season, and a good many of us are practicing social distancing, working from home, restricted travel, etc. Try normalizing your figures as if there were never any efforts to slow this thing down, then get back to us.

And the notion that the economy tanked because because of covid is downright false. The economy was already on the edge; covid merely nudged the inevitable.

There’s a reason the prez pushes for negative rates even as he brags it’s the best economy ever. The fed has been out tarping tarp since last sept, pumping the banking system with ungodly amounts of cash.

Wake up, fool.

But back to the topic at hand, all this conference only schedule garbage is irrelevant because there isn’t going to be a football season this year. That’s my prediction.

So if all conferences make this move, is there any chance the P5s petition to expand the playoff to 8 teams? Would cause an outrage if the SEC got two teams in a 4 team playoff despite not playing out of conference.

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(07-10-2020 11:24 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  But back to the topic at hand, all this conference only schedule garbage is irrelevant because there isn’t going to be a football season this year. That’s my prediction.

i predict that there will be CFB. Compressed schedule (conference schedule only), no fans, constant testing, medical DNPs for players/staff diagnosed for COVID, strict shelter-in-place (online academics and no/little contact with general student population). Universities and colleges will do the best they can to shield their players and staff, and roll the dice. Maybe not every conference but the p5s make too much money off of TV not to have something on tv, even if it's in-conference only and the ccg. The only issue that will require some more thought is how to handle the referee situation, especially if one of them contracts COVID. Do they have a deep enough pool to have alternates on-site in case they need substitutes, or do they just go with a "skeleton" crew?

The season will definitely have an asterisk but this is not about crowning a true CFB champion, it's more about trying to salvage as much of the TV money as possible.

(07-11-2020 07:44 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  So if all conferences make this move, is there any chance the P5s petition to expand the playoff to 8 teams? Would cause an outrage if the SEC got two teams in a 4 team playoff despite not playing out of conference.

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i can't see how they can possibly have a playoff when the criteria for determining participants is so materially affected. if i had to predict i think they go back to old school bowl game affiliations and just play it out. if they are dead set on crowning a champ then it's the old AP/Coaches poll voting to crown the champ. As i said in a previous post, this season will have an asterisk regardless so, ultimately, i don't know if it matters all that much how they come to that conclusion.

Well, that's why I think an 8 team playoff could make sense. Especially if they're only down to 10 games. You could give AQs to the P5 champs, take the best G5, two wild cards, and maybe even do a 2 week bubble system to play the games at the end. Imagine if the end result of this is UC miraculously making their first playoff?

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(07-10-2020 11:10 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 05:11 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 04:33 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 03:04 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:13 PM)doss2 Wrote:  And all those protest super spreaders.

Funny, how is it that New York, one of the epicenters of the BLM protests, has gotten COVID under control whereas Texas, which opened too fast, is seeing major spikes?



Maybe a couple of thousand protesters don't have as much of an impact as millions of people operating as if COVID isn't a thing? But okay, keep clamoring herp derp TDS...maybe a canceled football season will finally get it through your thick skulls, which is sad because you'd think record unemployment and 120,000+ death count would be enough.

The record unemployment is because of the shutdowns...cause, meet effect.

You know...that goose and gander thing.

Oh...and just for perspective

Top causes of death in the US

Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Covid would go around here at the highest estimates
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

These statistics are the 2017 causes of death for the year in the United States. COVID is up to 136K deaths as of today and the significant number of deaths from the virus started in April, basically 3.5 months. You do the math on what that number would look like for an entire year. Multiply that by some factor if the states weren't actively taking precautionary measures.

Also maybe do some research on how the change in US unemployment numbers are fairing against most other first world countries. I'll wait.

lol i as thinking the same thing, like did converll even try to do some simple math before posting?

We are at 135,000 and it’s not even flu season, and a good many of us are practicing social distancing, working from home, restricted travel, etc. Try normalizing your figures as if there were never any efforts to slow this thing down, then get back to us.

And the notion that the economy tanked because because of covid is downright false. The economy was already on the edge; covid merely nudged the inevitable.

There’s a reason the prez pushes for negative rates even as he brags it’s the best economy ever. The fed has been out tarping tarp since last sept, pumping the banking system with ungodly amounts of cash.

Wake up, fool.

Complain complain complain...OK, here are the running 2020 disease numbers:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/leading-cau...awjbkmrst4

Oh...shutdowns and the economy:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/state-coron...9n6bqrbuly

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/24/coronavi...harts.html

Red vs. Blue prior to corona:

https://www.city-journal.org/red-states-...-advantage

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4666...mic-future

So, you know, chew on that.