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272 NYPD Officers File For Retirement Since George Floyd Protests…
Quote:Cops are hanging up their handcuffs in huge numbers.

The flurry of Finest farewells began after the police-involved killing of George Floyd on May 25, with 272 uniformed cops putting in retirement papers from then through June 24, the NYPD says.

That’s a 49 percent spike from the 183 officers who filed during the same period last year, according to the department.

An NYPD source suggested the recent departures could signal a coming crisis for the 36,000-member department, which also faces a $1 billion budget reduction amid the “defund the police” furor.

“We are worried about a surge in attrition reducing our headcount beyond what we can sustain without new recruits, and are afraid the City Council has not taken the surge into account,” he said.

Police Benevolent Association president Patrick Lynch said cops are “at their breaking point, whether they have 20 years on the job or only two. We are all asking the same question: ‘How can we keep doing our job in this environment?’ And that is exactly what the anti-cop crowd wants. If we have no cops because no one wants to be a cop, they will have achieved their ultimate goal.”

Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, said an “exodus” from the NYPD has begun. He said nearly 80 of his members have recently filed for retirement, and that morale is “at the lowest levels I’ve seen in 38 years.”

The fiery union leader added, “People have had enough and no longer feel it’s worth risking their personal well-being for a thankless position.”

“There is no leadership, no direction, no training for new policies,” he said. “Department brass is paralyzed (and) too afraid to uphold their sworn oath in fear of losing their jobs. Sadly, the people of this city will soon experience what New York City was like in the 1980s.”

Outrage over Floyd’s death sparked nationwide protests, and some NYPD officers see themselves as collateral damage.

“It’s an all-out war on cops and we have no support,” said one veteran Brooklyn cop, who is retiring next month. “I wanted to wait for my 30th anniversary in October, but the handwriting is on the wall.”

Many men and women in blue are fed up, feeling targeted and frustrated that they are expected to fight crime with fewer tools than ever, while getting no backing from politicians, injured in protests, and constantly scrutinized, according to agitated officers and angry police unions.

The weary rank and file also wonder if one bad decision on the job could get them arrested and charged with a crime.

“If you have your time in and have an opportunity to do something else, get out while you can,” advised Joseph Giacalone, a retired NYPD sergeant and adjunct professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan.

Giacalone said he’d received three emails in “the past week or so” from students asking for advice about changing their career choice. Giacalone said he has not gotten “these kinds” of emails since the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, Missouri, in August 2014.

He said he “never discourages anyone” about the job, he just “lays out the pros and cons” and also reminds students there are federal law enforcement jobs.

On Thursday, The Post exclusively reported that Bronx NYPD precinct commander Richard Brea is quitting to protest the department’s handling of police reform and anti-brutality protests. The Deputy Inspector, who led the Bronx’s 46th Precinct, will retire after nearly three decades on the force.

NYPD Sgt. Joseph Imperatrice, founder of Blue Lives Matter, which formed after NYPD officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos were assassinated in 2014 , claims close to a dozen cops per day are putting in their papers. Imperatrice believes the number is “noticeably higher” than usual and due to the “anti-police and anti-criminal accountability” climate.

Imperatrice contends the number of cops leaving the job since the end of March is “approaching the 700 to 1,000 range between COVID and the anti-police narrative.”

“I feel sorry for the cops who just began their career and have 20 years to go,” Imperatrice said. “Morale across the nation for anybody who puts on that uniform is at an all-time low … Officers are showing up to work putting on their uniform and within a few days thereafter being put into handcuffs.”

He said one “fed-up” Manhattan detective, a 22-year-veteran with a wife and kids, is just waiting to hear back about a new job and then he’s putting in his papers and moving to Arizona. He believes the city is “going down the tubes quick and it’s not going to turn around anytime soon.”

Imperatrice said the heartbroken mom of an anti-crime unit cop killed in the line of duty recently contacted him, “beside herself” because the NYPD disbanded the unit and thus “disbanded the legacy of her son.”

“The politicians are spitting in the faces of families of cops killed in the line of duty and now they’re handing over the keys to the city to these criminals. This is insane,” Imperatrice fumed.

“Of course, if a police officer is acting criminal or abusing their authority, they should be held accountable. But the majority of incidents we are seeing do not warrant officers losing their job and being locked up.”

Said John Jay professor Giacalone: “We are living in the Twilight Zone — where the good guys are the bad guys and the bad guys are the good guys. No bail, no jail, selective prosecution — unless you’re a cop, then game on.

“People have lost their collective minds.”

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I would do the exact same thing.
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My cousin is one of those that retired in NYC. He’s a detective in his 30th year. He said city leaders just don’t have their backs and haven’t since Gulliani, who everybody loved.
As a side note, he said every cop in the city he knows is now voting for Trump. Every singe one.
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RE: 272 NYPD Officers File For Retirement Since George Floyd Protests…
Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?
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(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Can't have the bolded in a 'defund the police' era where the egregious actions of a few reflect negatively upon the entire group.
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(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

If you ever need a cop, you should call a social worker or Colin Kapernick instead.
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(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Honest question: Do you want to live in a city which has no police department?
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Personally, I don't blame every cop that is able to retire to retire now. I mean, why not? The vast majority, IMO, are good cops being linked with bad apples. TBH, if qualified immunity is totally taken away, I don't know why anyone would want to become a cop.
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There are over 38k officers in the NYPD, this is a rounding error
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(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Wow...
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(06-29-2020 10:02 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Wow...

Agreed. You can thank the media for that mindset.
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(06-29-2020 08:56 AM)fsquid Wrote:  There are over 38k officers in the NYPD, this is a rounding error

What do you mean?

The article said last year 183, this year 272 are retiring... That's 49% more than the previous year.
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(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Using Occam's razor....both demographics.
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(06-29-2020 08:56 AM)fsquid Wrote:  There are over 38k officers in the NYPD, this is a rounding error

Maybe you're right and it's nothing more than sensationalism trying to increase sales of papers, clicks, subscriptions, etc... However, it may be an accelerating trend in reaction to the lack of support in these metropolitan areas as the leaders of these cities try to kowtow to BLM, ANTIFA and whatever other SJW types protesting and rioting.
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(06-29-2020 08:56 AM)fsquid Wrote:  There are over 38k officers in the NYPD, this is a rounding error

This is just the ones retiring. How many who aren't at retirement age are quitting?


A friend of mine who was a paramedic prior to switching over to law enforcement told me the other day he had already contacted DHEC to determine the steps needed to bring his lapsed paramedic certification back up to date. This is a man who is the highest ranked supervisor in the patrol division of a decent sized municipal department in a fairly conservative and cop friendly city & county. He's the odds on favorite to replace the current Chief of Police when he retires in the next 2-3 years. Well respected by everyone. When the guys like that are looking at escape plans the **** is getting real.
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(06-29-2020 03:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(06-29-2020 08:56 AM)fsquid Wrote:  There are over 38k officers in the NYPD, this is a rounding error

This is just the ones retiring. How many who aren't at retirement age are quitting?


A friend of mine who was a paramedic prior to switching over to law enforcement told me the other day he had already contacted DHEC to determine the steps needed to bring his lapsed paramedic certification back up to date. This is a man who is the highest ranked supervisor in the patrol division of a decent sized municipal department in a fairly conservative and cop friendly city & county. He's the odds on favorite to replace the current Chief of Police when he retires in the next 2-3 years. Well respected by everyone. When the guys like that are looking at escape plans the **** is getting real.

I also know an officer that is close to retirement that is quitting and taking a completely different job with the state under the same retirement plan. He states other are looking at this same option even if it means a pay cut.
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(06-29-2020 08:00 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Honest question: Do you want to live in a city which has no police department?

No, but that is neither here nor there.
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(06-29-2020 08:00 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Honest question: Do you want to live in a city which has no police department?

You are asking the wrong person to be honest.
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(06-29-2020 10:02 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Wow...

Wow what? Do you deny that the NYPD has been called out for corruption? Do you disagree that a not-insignificant number of these retirees probably made careers out of playing the NYPD numbers game? NYPD has been faced with lots of allegations over the years. Entire precincts. 30 to 50 people a pop at times. It's not out of the question that a lot of these retirees have found ways to game the system and get their way over the years (or just keep silent so they don't rock the boat). I also don't think it's out of the question to suggest that a significant amount of those retirees SHOULD be retiring.

Now, I don't work for NYPD. But I work with small-town deputies every day. We just had some wink wink retirements, "reassignments", and leavers because of the light placed on the county by corruption. The leavers and unexpected retirees will tell you that it's because the Sheriff doesn't support the good guys. The Sheriff will tell you that it's because he didn't permit the same "stuff" as the last one.
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(06-29-2020 10:11 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(06-29-2020 12:09 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Are these the cops who NEEDED to retire in the first place? The NYPD isn’t exactly known for a lack of corruption and careerism over the years. Are these retirees the ones who’s careers depended on the amount of stops, frisks, and summons they could hand out (or have others hand out) on a given night? Or are they the ones who a better department would truly miss because they could’ve been depended on to be the face of non-19th century policing in this country?

Using Occam's razor....both demographics.

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