(07-01-2020 11:12 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 11:07 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 09:21 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:48 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  The Governor of Texas looks like a complete idiot for allowing Texas bars to reopen in the first place.

Disagree 1000%
Hide in your home if you’re afraid. Let the rest of us live.

Way to care about your fellow Americans? Enjoy the beer.


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How am I harming my fellow Americans??? I won’t be guilted into staying at home by myself anymore. I work alone from home and live alone.

You have zero reason to feel guilty about this. The same people who believe about the deadly disease, allow children and the working poor to man the front lines. These people have no problem with fast food restaurants and their teenage workers. They also have/had no problem of allowing a whole county of people saunter through Walmart and other large groceries to infect workers and other shoppers. I think that you have the right attitude. If you believe the virus is serious, self quarantine. Stay at home and live your life through media. I, on the other hand, would like to continue to enjoy my life. By self quarantine you decrease your odds of infection to zero.

To be fair, some Democratic Governors have also managed the pandemic poorly.

CA Gov. Newsome has overseen a policy which has allowed the number of new Covid-19 cases to increase markedly. Only today has he restricted indoor restaurant dining, and only in 19 of the State's counties. There were 8,000 new cases of Covid-19 reported today.

@BillyBobby777 sounds exactly the way I expected a BillyBobby to sound.

Reasons we may not have NCAA sports for 6-12 months...

1. Coronavirus
2. People like good ol' BillyBobby777

Use your brain, son

(07-01-2020 10:30 PM)indianashocker Wrote:   @BillyBobby777 sounds exactly the way I expected a BillyBobby to sound.

Reasons we may not have NCAA sports for 6-12 months...

1. Coronavirus
2. People like good ol' BillyBobby777

Use your brain, son

That's true, and not only that, but the economic consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic getting much worse in the U.S. are almost certainly going to be devastating.

Reopening without requiring wearing masks indoors & social distancing is an unmitigated disaster. To the rest of the world, the U.S. starting to look like a nation of idiots.

(07-01-2020 10:46 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:30 PM)indianashocker Wrote:   @BillyBobby777 sounds exactly the way I expected a BillyBobby to sound.

Reasons we may not have NCAA sports for 6-12 months...

1. Coronavirus
2. People like good ol' BillyBobby777

Use your brain, son

That's true, and not only that, but the economic consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic getting much worse in the U.S. are almost certainly going to be devastating.

Reopening without requiring wearing masks indoors & social distancing is an unmitigated disaster. To the rest of the world, the U.S. starting to look like a nation of idiots.

The rest of the world has known that for 3.5 years

(07-01-2020 10:30 PM)indianashocker Wrote:   @BillyBobby777 sounds exactly the way I expected a BillyBobby to sound.

Reasons we may not have NCAA sports for 6-12 months...

1. Coronavirus
2. People like good ol' BillyBobby777

Use your brain, son

You are weak son

(07-01-2020 06:53 PM)rosewater Wrote:  You have zero reason to feel guilty about this. The same people who believe about the deadly disease, allow children and the working poor to man the front lines. These people have no problem with fast food restaurants and their teenage workers.

I would have no problem shutting them down if they were super spreaders but a few people in a kitchen required to wear mask that work together often isn't really the issue driving this and spare us your crocodile tears, if they did shut them down you certainly would cry foul. You could clearly care less about them or anyone else if you want things like bars opened back up and to continue as if nothing is happening. I think they should shut down the dining rooms again. Indoor is where the problems are and take out is a fair compromise that keeps people working and fulfills as necessary of eating with low risk.

Quote:They also have/had no problem of allowing a whole county of people saunter through Walmart and other large groceries to infect workers and other shoppers.

Can we agree there are somethings that are essential like food and groceries? That's not the same as, bars, concerts, basketball games etc. Most of these stores require mask for employee's, shields for cashiers, morning allotted times for seniors etc. They take the best precautions possible . Personally I pick up my parents groceries so they don't have to shop when I pick up mine. They are delivered to my car outside walmart, and have found it saves me time and aggravation on top of helping slow the spread. There are even ways to avoid that if you wanted as well.

Quote: I think that you have the right attitude. If you believe the virus is serious, self quarantine. Stay at home and live your life through media. I, on the other hand, would like to continue to enjoy my life. By self quarantine you decrease your odds of infection to zero.

You clearly only care about yourself, no consideration for the health care system or hospital workers that are on the verge of getting overwhelmed or the patients that won't have care if they do. Why are ICU's at 95+% at several places in this country and pop up hospitals going up in parking lots. This could very well spiral out of control the next few weeks to an Italy situation where people can't get a bed or doctor. Italy was caught off guard at least, we are doing this to ourself with time to prepare months after even seeing their example, because of people with your attitude and dumb politicians. It's not even a republican or democrat thing, I think your Ohio republican gov has been great, very proactive early on and handled the reopening well and Ohio is in great shape by comparison.

That's the problem with your "doing you" attitude. It affects everyone around you and you inevitably will come in contact with vulnerable people or those that will and more people will die especially when the hospitals are overwhelmed. It's always been about the hospitals getting stressed and why it's important to slow the spread down so everyone doesn't get it at the same time and then there aren't beds or doctors to get people though it or for those having everyday regular health issues. It's just selfish.

(07-02-2020 08:00 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:53 PM)rosewater Wrote:  You have zero reason to feel guilty about this. The same people who believe about the deadly disease, allow children and the working poor to man the front lines. These people have no problem with fast food restaurants and their teenage workers.

I would have no problem shutting them down if they were super spreaders but a few people in a kitchen required to wear mask that work together often isn't really the issue driving this and spare us your crocodile tears, if they did shut them down you certainly would cry foul. You could clearly care less about them or anyone else if you want things like bars opened back up and to continue as if nothing is happening. I think they should shut down the dining rooms again. Indoor is where the problems are and take out is a fair compromise that keeps people working and fulfills as necessary of eating with low risk.

Quote:They also have/had no problem of allowing a whole county of people saunter through Walmart and other large groceries to infect workers and other shoppers.

Can we agree there are somethings that are essential like food and groceries? That's not the same as, bars, concerts, basketball games etc. Most of these stores require mask for employee's, shields for cashiers, morning allotted times for seniors etc. They take the best precautions possible . Personally I pick up my parents groceries so they don't have to shop when I pick up mine. They are delivered to my car outside walmart, and have found it saves me time and aggravation on top of helping slow the spread. There are even ways to avoid that if you wanted as well.

Quote: I think that you have the right attitude. If you believe the virus is serious, self quarantine. Stay at home and live your life through media. I, on the other hand, would like to continue to enjoy my life. By self quarantine you decrease your odds of infection to zero.

You clearly only care about yourself, no consideration for the health care system or hospital workers that are on the verge of getting overwhelmed or the patients that won't have care if they do. Why are ICU's at 95+% at several places in this country and pop up hospitals going up in parking lots. This could very well spiral out of control the next few weeks to an Italy situation where people can't get a bed or doctor. Italy was caught off guard at least, we are doing this to ourself with time to prepare months after even seeing their example, because of people with your attitude and dumb politicians. It's not even a republican or democrat thing, I think your Ohio republican gov has been great, very proactive early on and handled the reopening well and Ohio is in great shape by comparison.

That's the problem with your "doing you" attitude. It affects everyone around you and you inevitably will come in contact with vulnerable people or those that will and more people will die especially when the hospitals are overwhelmed. It's always been about the hospitals getting stressed and why it's important to slow the spread down so everyone doesn't get it at the same time and then there aren't beds or doctors to get people though it or for those having everyday regular health issues. It's just selfish.

Why you shaming types have zero credibility with me. Make up your mind, is it dangerous or not. https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/18/ame...1ukkrE8jUw

(07-02-2020 12:05 PM)rosewater Wrote:  Why you shaming types have zero credibility with me. Make up your mind, is it dangerous or not. https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/18/ame...1ukkrE8jUw

You sound like one of those anti seatbelters from the 80's crying freedom when demanding not to buckle up themselves and their children. Freedom.

As far as the BLM protest they were OUTDOOR's mostly masked. It is not the same as thing for example as holding Trump rallies in places indoors with ICU already 84% full that people could have just watched on TV. They even tore spacing stickers off the venue provided so there would be no social distancing. That's that's next level organized stupidity by our president.

Things like Trump rallies and bars indoors are the problem mass indoor gathers in places you are yelling, singing, talking over music etc.

I criticized the protest for not social distancing because damn how hard is it to stand a legit 6 feet apart, but there was no spike from them. Being outside and masked isn't the problem.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020...masks.html

conservative paper reference if you need it.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/recent-prot...1592498020

There were protest in every state in the nation, including right wing ones before that demanding to open up, but neither proved to not be a big deal as far as spikes especially when most of the BLM's one wore mask on top of it. The states spiking are the ones that opened their bars up. Large gatherings indoors are the problem like Texas and their republican governor even admits he was wrong to open the bars and wishes he could go back and change that.

It's understandable the difference in indoor and outdoors and how a protester outside while wearing mask outside isn't a big deal and how your breath dissipates in the air outside much quicker. That's a GOOD thing as well if you want football or concerts BTW, it makes it at least hopeful if people will wear mask like protesters and watch it outdoors that it might be possible relatively safely.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini...ge-country

It can seem like we’re experiencing a second wave of the coronavirus, but there’s a lot of conflicting data. Case counts are rising, but some of that is due to testing. Importantly, deaths are not rising. And then some of the charts you see play games with the x-axis.

So, what’s really going on? Below are some charts that together tell a story something like this: America is too big a country to consider as a single pool of cases, hospitalizations, or deaths. There never was a nationwide outbreak of the virus, although the media based in the Acela corridor spoke as if there were one. There’s not really a second wave now nationwide.
What happened is that some parts of America, mostly the New York City area and Detroit, had horrific outbreaks in March, and they are now tapering off. Today, a few other parts that had mostly avoided the virus — Florida, Texas, and Arizona — are finally seeing an increase in cases.

If you layer the regions on top of one another, it looks like a second wave. But if you separate them out, it looks like different places are getting hit at different times.

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The revised order also limits gatherings to 25 people.

According to the article, only 30 new cases over four days were traced with certainty to ten bars. The hotspots in Nashville are in the southeast.

Therefore, the bar closings will have minimum preventive impact while depriving the city of taxes used to fund programs for the needy, destroying livelihoods, and harming emotional health linked to more suicides and overdoses.

Texas Governor Abbott has just mandated wearing a mask when in public with a handful of exceptions.

I never see people or someone not wearing a mask, and Im out daily. (Dallas)

I guess in other areas its different; otherwise, not sure why mask wearing is being discussed?

Might as well talk about ventilators.

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(07-02-2020 04:38 PM)smu89 Wrote:  I never see people or someone not wearing a mask, and Im out daily. (Dallas)

I guess in other areas its different; otherwise, not sure why mask wearing is being discussed?

Might as well talk about venilators.

Herman Cain tweeted yesterday about exercising your freedom to not wear masks at political rallies. Today they announced Herman Cain has coronavirus and is in the hospital.
Here --
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html

(06-26-2020 11:10 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  I tested positive on Monday

Its not even a bad cold. 2 days of chills. Thats it.

Im 48

Do you have parents still around and if so, are they ok.

(06-26-2020 12:55 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 12:47 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 11:55 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yup. This rise in Texas cases will take at least a month to get under control given that we are unlikely to return to a full shutdown. A full shutdown would probably get things under control in a couple of weeks. Bending the curve with no shutdown (other than bars) means we are just using masks and distancing to retard infections in Texas. I suspect that method will work, but it might take a month (or more) to get where we want to be.

Most effective way would be to just get everyone under 65 infected and get herd immunity. Let’s be the guinea pig state.

I agree! Plus the more a virus infects people the more it will mutate and get less deadly.


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The coronavirus may have mutated to become more infectious, Dr. Anthony Fauci says
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/the-coro...eExtension

(07-01-2020 10:46 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 10:30 PM)indianashocker Wrote:   @BillyBobby777 sounds exactly the way I expected a BillyBobby to sound.

Reasons we may not have NCAA sports for 6-12 months...

1. Coronavirus
2. People like good ol' BillyBobby777

Use your brain, son

That's true, and not only that, but the economic consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic getting much worse in the U.S. are almost certainly going to be devastating.

Reopening without requiring wearing masks indoors & social distancing is an unmitigated disaster. To the rest of the world, the U.S. starting to look like a nation of idiots.

This aged well. June Jobs Report

(07-02-2020 08:33 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 12:55 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 12:47 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(06-26-2020 11:55 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yup. This rise in Texas cases will take at least a month to get under control given that we are unlikely to return to a full shutdown. A full shutdown would probably get things under control in a couple of weeks. Bending the curve with no shutdown (other than bars) means we are just using masks and distancing to retard infections in Texas. I suspect that method will work, but it might take a month (or more) to get where we want to be.

Most effective way would be to just get everyone under 65 infected and get herd immunity. Let’s be the guinea pig state.

I agree! Plus the more a virus infects people the more it will mutate and get less deadly.


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The coronavirus may have mutated to become more infectious, Dr. Anthony Fauci says
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/the-coro...eExtension

Yes more infectious than the virus when it came out of China. No evidence that it's more or less lethal.

(07-02-2020 05:02 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 04:38 PM)smu89 Wrote:  I never see people or someone not wearing a mask, and Im out daily. (Dallas)

I guess in other areas its different; otherwise, not sure why mask wearing is being discussed?

Might as well talk about venilators.

Herman Cain tweeted yesterday about exercising your freedom to not wear masks at political rallies. Today they announced Herman Cain has coronavirus and is in the hospital.
Here --
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html

And the point is we shouldnt be a free country?

Ironic, on 7/2 when the Second Continental Congress met in Philadelphia and voted to approve a resolution for independence from Britain.

On July 2, 1776, the Continental Congress agreed upon the content of the Declaration of Independence. Two days later, on July 4, the document was signed.

Mary Katherine Goddard, publisher of the Maryland Journal, made the first printed copy of the Declaration of Independence with the names of all the signers, and distributed the document across the colonies. Having declared their freedom, the American patriots had to win it in battle. By signing the Declaration of Independence, the delegates were putting their lives on the line. If they were to lose the war for independence, then the British government would execute them in a very painful and nasty way. Thus, Benjamin Franklin l said, "we must all hang together, or ... we shall all hang separately,".

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(07-01-2020 06:53 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 11:12 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 11:07 AM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 09:21 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 12:48 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  The Governor of Texas looks like a complete idiot for allowing Texas bars to reopen in the first place.

Disagree 1000%
Hide in your home if you’re afraid. Let the rest of us live.

Way to care about your fellow Americans? Enjoy the beer.


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How am I harming my fellow Americans??? I won’t be guilted into staying at home by myself anymore. I work alone from home and live alone.

You have zero reason to feel guilty about this. The same people who believe about the deadly disease, allow children and the working poor to man the front lines. These people have no problem with fast food restaurants and their teenage workers. They also have/had no problem of allowing a whole county of people saunter through Walmart and other large groceries to infect workers and other shoppers. I think that you have the right attitude. If you believe the virus is serious, self quarantine. Stay at home and live your life through media. I, on the other hand, would like to continue to enjoy my life. By self quarantine you decrease your odds of infection to zero.

If you are an asymptomatic carrier, then you are harming your fellow Americans if you go out and DON'T wear a mask. If you wear one, you're cool, if not you are selfish. Not sure why some people get riled up when they are referred to as such. Humans are selfish creatures. Some try to rise above that base level, and help out, others not so much. Your FREEDOM right now is all about how selfish (or unselfish, that's an exercise as well) you CHOOSE to be. It's your choice, so you still have freedom. Just like pants. Wear them or don't, and pay the consequences.