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Post Covid Realignment Ideas
With minimizing travel becoming important here is my idea to better tighten conferences geographical footprints while still accomplishing the goals of each school and conference

MEAC Fball played in or with BIG SOUTH
Delaware St
Morgan St
Norfolk St
UMES*
Coppin St*
Longwood*
Radford*
Liberty*

Big South
NC A&T
NC Central
SC State
Charleston Southern
UNC Asheville*
High Point*
USC Upstate*
Winthrop*
Presbyterian*

Atlantic Sun
Eastern Kentucky
Chattanooga
ETSU
Kennesaw St
Western Carolina
North Alabama
Jacksonville State
Florida Gulf Coast*
North Florida*
Jacksonville*
Stetson*

SoCon
The Citadel
VMI
Furman
Wofford
Mercer
Samford
Campbell
Gardner Webb
UNCG*
UNCW*
Charleston*

OVC
Eastern Illinois
Southeast Missouri St
Murray State
UT Martin
Austin Peay
Tennessee State
Tennesee Tech
SiU Edwardsville*
Morehead State*
Bellarmine*
Lipscomb*
Belmont*

CAA
Northeastern*
Hofstra*
Drexel*
Delaware
Towson
Howard
Hampton
William and Mary
JMU
Elon
Richmond FB Only
Villanova FB Only

New FCS FBALL ONLY Conference - Yankee Conference
Maine
New Hampshire
Rhode Island
Stony Brook
Albany
Monmouth
Robert Morris
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@Solohawks, this is actually a very realistic post. Well thought out too. It’s so realistic, nobody wants to admit it’s a real possibility of happening. We want to believe ‘things will all be back to “normal” soon’. Which not only applies to American sports, but also, American life and economics. So, your reality post is being ignored because people hate horror movies that are too lifelike. They’d rather have happy movie or sci-fi type horror.

Anyway, I can even see FCS and G5 becoming more intertwined. Per each given season, the few G5 bowls that survive the next coupe years will go as auto bids to any team from current G5 and FCS, as, we non-A5 will all be in a hybrid FCS-FBS subdivision of D1 football eventually. The rest will go to what is now the FCS tournament, then maybe another lesser FCS tournament below that to give all teams with winning seasons a post-season to hang their hats on.

So, in order to compensate for these drastic fiscal and financial changes, travel will HAVE to be an issue, period.

Big West revives football in this new world...

“*” denotes football member

*Hawaii
*San Jose State
*UC Davis
*Sacramento State
*Nevada
*Fresno State
*Cal Poly
*UNLV
*San Diego State
CS Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS Northridge
Long Beach State
UC Riverside
CS Fullerton
UC Irvine
UC San Diego

17 teams for good single round robin in basketball

Should be a top non-A5 football conference annually. Should be a top mid major basketball and all other non-football sports, especially baseball.
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Better not post that on the MWCBoard, FF. those folks will revolt at the thought of re-joining us.
06-28-2020 12:15 PM
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(06-28-2020 12:15 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Better not post that on the MWCBoard, FF. those folks will revolt at the thought of re-joining us.

JDG, I’m not so sure BWC would let us back. Not without some decent concessions, anyway. Including not much if any voting power in BWC issues.

I personally would cherish this conference. Not so sure how to handle a 17 team baseball league, tho. LOL

It would suck if it were forced to happen due to G5 and most of their bowls folding due to financial reasons. But man, that’s a nice bus league! Seriously! I’d love it as a financial necessity. Heck, I’d love it almost as much as the pie in the sky idea that MWC or any of its currency members are going to move up higher in status and money and glory than they/we currently are.

Let the haters hate. 04-rock

Edit: BTW, I left the MWC Board over a year ago.

Edit 2: BTW, BTW...what conference was UNLV in when they won the Natty? Just sayin
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Fresno: is football the only significant sport they don't play? Because if that's true, that conference is FANTASTIC!
06-28-2020 01:26 PM
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(06-28-2020 11:11 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  @Solohawks, this is actually a very realistic post. Well thought out too. It’s so realistic, nobody wants to admit it’s a real possibility of happening. We want to believe ‘things will all be back to “normal” soon’. Which not only applies to American sports, but also, American life and economics. So, your reality post is being ignored because people hate horror movies that are too lifelike. They’d rather have happy movie or sci-fi type horror.

Anyway, I can even see FCS and G5 becoming more intertwined. Per each given season, the few G5 bowls that survive the next coupe years will go as auto bids to any team from current G5 and FCS, as, we non-A5 will all be in a hybrid FCS-FBS subdivision of D1 football eventually. The rest will go to what is now the FCS tournament, then maybe another lesser FCS tournament below that to give all teams with winning seasons a post-season to hang their hats on.

So, in order to compensate for these drastic fiscal and financial changes, travel will HAVE to be an issue, period.

Big West revives football in this new world...

“*” denotes football member

*Hawaii
*San Jose State
*UC Davis
*Sacramento State
*Nevada
*Fresno State
*Cal Poly
*UNLV
*San Diego State
CS Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS Northridge
Long Beach State
UC Riverside
CS Fullerton
UC Irvine
UC San Diego

17 teams for good single round robin in basketball

Should be a top non-A5 football conference annually. Should be a top mid major basketball and all other non-football sports, especially baseball.


These school might as well join up with the WAC b/c they have a FBS option plus with NMSU already being FBS Adding those below in bold with. This would give it 12 total FB schools. While having a pretty solid OLY line up all being pretty regional. States WA,CA,AZ,NM,TX,UT,HI.

Seattle GCU CBU UVU UTRGV NMSU(FB) DSU (FB) TSU (FB)

*Hawaii
*San Jose State
*UC Davis
*Sacramento State
*Nevada
*Fresno State
*Cal Poly
*UNLV
*San Diego State
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(06-28-2020 11:11 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  @Solohawks, this is actually a very realistic post. Well thought out too. It’s so realistic, nobody wants to admit it’s a real possibility of happening. We want to believe ‘things will all be back to “normal” soon’. Which not only applies to American sports, but also, American life and economics. So, your reality post is being ignored because people hate horror movies that are too lifelike. They’d rather have happy movie or sci-fi type horror.

Anyway, I can even see FCS and G5 becoming more intertwined. Per each given season, the few G5 bowls that survive the next coupe years will go as auto bids to any team from current G5 and FCS, as, we non-A5 will all be in a hybrid FCS-FBS subdivision of D1 football eventually. The rest will go to what is now the FCS tournament, then maybe another lesser FCS tournament below that to give all teams with winning seasons a post-season to hang their hats on.

So, in order to compensate for these drastic fiscal and financial changes, travel will HAVE to be an issue, period.

Big West revives football in this new world...

“*” denotes football member

*Hawaii
*San Jose State
*UC Davis
*Sacramento State
*Nevada
*Fresno State
*Cal Poly
*UNLV
*San Diego State
CS Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS Northridge
Long Beach State
UC Riverside
CS Fullerton
UC Irvine
UC San Diego

17 teams for good single round robin in basketball

Should be a top non-A5 football conference annually. Should be a top mid major basketball and all other non-football sports, especially baseball.

I thought Sacramento State was being shunned by the Big West for not investing in their basketball facilities. If they joined as FB-only, then you'd at least have an even number of BB teams.
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(06-28-2020 12:15 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Better not post that on the MWCBoard, FF. those folks will revolt at the thought of re-joining us.

I stopped when I read, "Anyway, I can even see FCS and G5 becoming more intertwined." Fresno State is an FBS school and there is a difference. They have a new MWC TV contract that will pay about $3.8 million per year. They typically earn $1.5 million in college playoff revenue. They are making $1.9 million this year in guarantee games. No G5 school is going to give that revenue up. Fresno State does not need or want to be in the same football conference with Sacramento State and Cal Poly.
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(06-28-2020 01:26 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Fresno: is football the only significant sport they don't play? Because if that's true, that conference is FANTASTIC!

ETV, Big West has pretty much everything needed. BWC would just be adding football in my G5 financial nightmare scenario.

And on a side note. Nice to see my Bulldogs and your Huskies have scheduled each other in football. Starting 2021, I think I recall.
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(06-28-2020 01:42 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(06-28-2020 12:15 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Better not post that on the MWCBoard, FF. those folks will revolt at the thought of re-joining us.

I stopped when I read, "Anyway, I can even see FCS and G5 becoming more intertwined." Fresno State is an FBS school and there is a difference. They have a new MWC TV contract that will pay about $3.8 million per year. They typically earn $1.5 million in college playoff revenue. They are making $1.9 million this year in guarantee games. No G5 school is going to give that revenue up. Fresno State does not need or want to be in the same football conference with Sacramento State and Cal Poly.

What if due to economy tanking next couple years due to covid and other pre-covid systemic financial and fiscal cracks, all these G5 tv contracts get forced to be reduced by espn(AAC)/fox-CBS(MWC)? And most of the bowls that G5 goes to drop due to financial reasons? That’s what my Mega-BW Conference is based upon.
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(06-28-2020 11:11 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  @Solohawks, this is actually a very realistic post. Well thought out too. It’s so realistic, nobody wants to admit it’s a real possibility of happening. We want to believe ‘things will all be back to “normal” soon’. Which not only applies to American sports, but also, American life and economics. So, your reality post is being ignored because people hate horror movies that are too lifelike. They’d rather have happy movie or sci-fi type horror.

Anyway, I can even see FCS and G5 becoming more intertwined. Per each given season, the few G5 bowls that survive the next coupe years will go as auto bids to any team from current G5 and FCS, as, we non-A5 will all be in a hybrid FCS-FBS subdivision of D1 football eventually. The rest will go to what is now the FCS tournament, then maybe another lesser FCS tournament below that to give all teams with winning seasons a post-season to hang their hats on.

So, in order to compensate for these drastic fiscal and financial changes, travel will HAVE to be an issue, period.

Big West revives football in this new world...

“*” denotes football member

*Hawaii
*San Jose State
*UC Davis
*Sacramento State
*Nevada
*Fresno State
*Cal Poly
*UNLV
*San Diego State
CS Bakersfield
UC Santa Barbara
CS Northridge
Long Beach State
UC Riverside
CS Fullerton
UC Irvine
UC San Diego

17 teams for good single round robin in basketball

Should be a top non-A5 football conference annually. Should be a top mid major basketball and all other non-football sports, especially baseball.


Alot of this seems to be already in motion with the MEAC changes and the ASUNs desire to create a deep south FCS conference. If you listened to the interview with the ASun Commish with HCBUSports you see his desire to work with current conferences like they do currently with the Big South for football. His story about the founding of the swimming conference that was to become the UAC was very interesting and positive.

For my posts I tried to combine the ASun's UAC idea, the working relationship they have with the Big South and the MEACs need to meet the D1 standards. If the ASun's FCS goals are successful the OVC and SoCon will need replacements, so I picked the most logical additions. Combining that with the intent to keep the MEAC afloat I shifted the VA schools to the MEAC. I figured Liberty would be amicable as being in a prominent HBCU conference help offset any of the political accusations they face now.

The CAA changes are more of a longshot especially Howard, who seems to be really interested in the MEAC's longterm wellbeing. If they were to leave though the CAA would make the most sense
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