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RE: Former Grizzliies player dies at 73
(06-22-2020 10:34 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 08:19 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 04:57 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 11:43 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 09:02 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  The big 3. Was a big deal at the time getting them to leave the NFL.

Wish the NFL would have given Memphis a franchise then.

After the WFL folded, Bassett kept the team together and on payroll for awhile.

I seem to recall an NFL season ticket pledge drive.

At that time, Memphis & Shelby County was still bigger and better than Metro Nashville.

the NFL-A-Thon

Hosted by Brent and Phyliis

46,000 season ticket deposits, back when the Liberty Bowl might have been seen as viable by the NFL

Memphis' successful entry into the NFL back then would have completely changed the trajectory of Tennessee's two largest metro areas

the NFL is still king

In Howard Cossell's book "I Never Played the Game" he says that Memphis was promised the next expansion franchise after being passed over for Tampa Bay and Seattle in 76.

by Pete Rozelle

then along came Tagliabue and his upstart young intern, Roger Goodell. Memphis never stood a chance when it came to multi-city expansion derbies.

The two times we were the closest were the above mentioned Grizzlies/Southmen owned by Bassett, and then late Colts' owner Robert Irsay's move anywhere out of Baltimore. Memphis was thought to be the favorite by some.

We couldn't afford an NFL caliber stadium. Expanding the Liberty Bowl was akin to enlarging an over sized high school stadium. Skyboxs in the wrong spot. Pressbox sucked.

At the time of the last expansions in early 90's, The Liberty Bowl was better than a handful of NFL stadiums day one. But there was no plan as to what the future would hold for the Liberty Bowl while other franchises had plans.

Texas Stadium was a joke for the caliber of franchise of the Cowboys.
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And they are on their second stadium since then.
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(06-23-2020 07:17 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  And they are on their second stadium since then.

somehow Atlanta can build all kinds of new stadiums every 3-4 years, in all sports

Never figured that out
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(06-23-2020 07:32 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 07:17 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  And they are on their second stadium since then.

somehow Atlanta can build all kinds of new stadiums every 3-4 years, in all sports

Never figured that out

Maybe the mayor and the group that runs the city are better money managers.

Memphis not so much although I understand that Shelby County employees got a new perk effective July 1st for having babies.
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(06-21-2020 11:43 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 09:02 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 11:00 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Csonka, Warfield and Kiick. Good times. R.I.P.

The big 3. Was a big deal at the time getting them to leave the NFL.

Wish the NFL would have given Memphis a franchise then.

After the WFL folded, Bassett kept the team together and on payroll for awhile.

I seem to recall an NFL season ticket pledge drive.

At that time, Memphis & Shelby County was still bigger and better than Metro Nashville.

the NFL-A-Thon

Hosted by Brent and Phyliis

46,000 season ticket deposits, back when the Liberty Bowl might have been seen as viable by the NFL

Memphis' successful entry into the NFL back then would have completely changed the trajectory of Tennessee's two largest metro areas

the NFL is still king

Imagine if Clarence Saunders would have accepted George Halas' invitation to join the new league they were forming.
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RE: Former Grizzliies player dies at 73
(06-22-2020 10:34 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 08:19 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 04:57 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 11:43 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 09:02 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  The big 3. Was a big deal at the time getting them to leave the NFL.

Wish the NFL would have given Memphis a franchise then.

After the WFL folded, Bassett kept the team together and on payroll for awhile.

I seem to recall an NFL season ticket pledge drive.

At that time, Memphis & Shelby County was still bigger and better than Metro Nashville.

the NFL-A-Thon

Hosted by Brent and Phyliis

46,000 season ticket deposits, back when the Liberty Bowl might have been seen as viable by the NFL

Memphis' successful entry into the NFL back then would have completely changed the trajectory of Tennessee's two largest metro areas

the NFL is still king

In Howard Cossell's book "I Never Played the Game" he says that Memphis was promised the next expansion franchise after being passed over for Tampa Bay and Seattle in 76.

by Pete Rozelle

then along came Tagliabue and his upstart young intern, Roger Goodell. Memphis never stood a chance when it came to multi-city expansion derbies.

The two times we were the closest were the above mentioned Grizzlies/Southmen owned by Bassett, and then late Colts' owner Robert Irsay's move anywhere out of Baltimore. Memphis was thought to be the favorite by some.

We couldn't afford an NFL caliber stadium. Expanding the Liberty Bowl was akin to enlarging an over sized high school stadium. Skyboxs in the wrong spot. Pressbox sucked.

Yet Tampa Bay built the almost exact stadium for their expansion team.
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(06-23-2020 08:38 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 10:34 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 08:19 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 04:57 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 11:43 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  the NFL-A-Thon

Hosted by Brent and Phyliis

46,000 season ticket deposits, back when the Liberty Bowl might have been seen as viable by the NFL

Memphis' successful entry into the NFL back then would have completely changed the trajectory of Tennessee's two largest metro areas

the NFL is still king

In Howard Cossell's book "I Never Played the Game" he says that Memphis was promised the next expansion franchise after being passed over for Tampa Bay and Seattle in 76.

by Pete Rozelle

then along came Tagliabue and his upstart young intern, Roger Goodell. Memphis never stood a chance when it came to multi-city expansion derbies.

The two times we were the closest were the above mentioned Grizzlies/Southmen owned by Bassett, and then late Colts' owner Robert Irsay's move anywhere out of Baltimore. Memphis was thought to be the favorite by some.

We couldn't afford an NFL caliber stadium. Expanding the Liberty Bowl was akin to enlarging an over sized high school stadium. Skyboxs in the wrong spot. Pressbox sucked.

Yet Tampa Bay built the almost exact stadium for their expansion team.

Almost. It had chair back seating
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RE: Former Grizzliies player dies at 73
(06-24-2020 09:21 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 08:38 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 10:34 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 08:19 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 04:57 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  In Howard Cossell's book "I Never Played the Game" he says that Memphis was promised the next expansion franchise after being passed over for Tampa Bay and Seattle in 76.

by Pete Rozelle

then along came Tagliabue and his upstart young intern, Roger Goodell. Memphis never stood a chance when it came to multi-city expansion derbies.

The two times we were the closest were the above mentioned Grizzlies/Southmen owned by Bassett, and then late Colts' owner Robert Irsay's move anywhere out of Baltimore. Memphis was thought to be the favorite by some.

We couldn't afford an NFL caliber stadium. Expanding the Liberty Bowl was akin to enlarging an over sized high school stadium. Skyboxs in the wrong spot. Pressbox sucked.

Yet Tampa Bay built the almost exact stadium for their expansion team.

Almost. It had chair back seating

Negative ghost rider.
Tampa Stadium was originally built in 1967 and was two large stands that were open in both endzones that was completely aluminum bleacher bench seating in concrete. To get the Bucs they added 20,000 bad aluminum bleacher bench seats (sound familiar) by closing in the end zones with concrete. They used our Liberty Bowl for the design idea. The only chairback seats were a few lower rows between the goal lines, again just like our Liberty Bowl.
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Anybody else hearing that the NFL is hinting that Nashville needs a dome? That stadium is 21 years old already.
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(06-24-2020 01:55 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Anybody else hearing that the NFL is hinting that Nashville needs a dome? That stadium is 21 years old already.

Not sure about a dome but that stadium is one of the worst in the league
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(06-24-2020 10:16 AM)UofMark Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 09:21 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 08:38 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 10:34 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 08:19 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  by Pete Rozelle

then along came Tagliabue and his upstart young intern, Roger Goodell. Memphis never stood a chance when it came to multi-city expansion derbies.

The two times we were the closest were the above mentioned Grizzlies/Southmen owned by Bassett, and then late Colts' owner Robert Irsay's move anywhere out of Baltimore. Memphis was thought to be the favorite by some.

We couldn't afford an NFL caliber stadium. Expanding the Liberty Bowl was akin to enlarging an over sized high school stadium. Skyboxs in the wrong spot. Pressbox sucked.

Yet Tampa Bay built the almost exact stadium for their expansion team.

Almost. It had chair back seating

Negative ghost rider.
Tampa Stadium was originally built in 1967 and was two large stands that were open in both endzones that was completely aluminum bleacher bench seating in concrete. To get the Bucs they added 20,000 bad aluminum bleacher bench seats (sound familiar) by closing in the end zones with concrete. They used our Liberty Bowl for the design idea. The only chairback seats were a few lower rows between the goal lines, again just like our Liberty Bowl.

Surprising that a Super Bowl would be held at a bleachered stadium.
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(06-24-2020 02:14 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 01:55 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Anybody else hearing that the NFL is hinting that Nashville needs a dome? That stadium is 21 years old already.

Not sure about a dome but that stadium is one of the worst in the league

The lux boxes are good. And video is decent.
But the stadium is bad. All around. Concourses are dark and lacking. Nosebleeds are true nosebleeds. Air space in the end zones are okay, but the seating is lacking. And the turf they grow is terrible. By late October it is chewed up and not good.
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(06-24-2020 02:14 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 01:55 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Anybody else hearing that the NFL is hinting that Nashville needs a dome? That stadium is 21 years old already.

Not sure about a dome but that stadium is one of the worst in the league

It's an erector set that we (non-Nashville) helped foot the bill for.

I'm sure we will be paying for the next Titans stadium too

Brought to you by the majority party state leadership, no doubt.
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(06-25-2020 05:04 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 02:14 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 01:55 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Anybody else hearing that the NFL is hinting that Nashville needs a dome? That stadium is 21 years old already.

Not sure about a dome but that stadium is one of the worst in the league

It's an erector set that we (non-Nashville) helped foot the bill for.

I'm sure we will be paying for the next Titans stadium too

Brought to you by the majority party state leadership, no doubt.

Lol, I use the same term, erector set...they fast tracked the construction big time
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(06-25-2020 05:04 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 02:14 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 01:55 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Anybody else hearing that the NFL is hinting that Nashville needs a dome? That stadium is 21 years old already.

Not sure about a dome but that stadium is one of the worst in the league

It's an erector set that we (non-Nashville) helped foot the bill for.

I'm sure we will be paying for the next Titans stadium too

Brought to you by the majority party state leadership, no doubt.

Yep it sure was.

When the decision to build and fund the NFL,stadium in Nashville was made in 1995 and 1996 the Democrats controlled the office of the governor (Bredeson), the state senate (18-15), and the state house (61-38).

You have the Democratic party to blame.

Good call.
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(06-26-2020 09:54 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 05:04 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 02:14 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 01:55 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Anybody else hearing that the NFL is hinting that Nashville needs a dome? That stadium is 21 years old already.

Not sure about a dome but that stadium is one of the worst in the league

It's an erector set that we (non-Nashville) helped foot the bill for.

I'm sure we will be paying for the next Titans stadium too

Brought to you by the majority party state leadership, no doubt.

Yep it sure was.

When the decision to build and fund the NFL,stadium in Nashville was made in 1995 and 1996 the Democrats controlled the office of the governor (Bredeson), the state senate (18-15), and the state house (61-38).

You have the Democratic party to blame.

Good call.

Yep. And Bredesen was Nashville through and through. He even called Dunavant to borrow the analysis and PR that they had put together for the Memphis NFL bid.
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