(06-25-2020 11:49 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (06-25-2020 11:03 AM)gdunn Wrote: (06-25-2020 11:01 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: If Mississippians care more about preserving a symbol of hate than acknowledging it is terribly offensive to its 40% minority population, then it is what it is.
So you don't want to debate just spew talking points.
I see.
Please kindly remove Mensa from your handle, you don't deserve it because you'd much rather be a troll than have a meaningful debate because you know you have nothing to add to the conversation due to your ignorance.
GOOD DAY SIR.
Please explain why having this symbol as part of the flag is more important than being concerned about how it’s seen by the 40% of the citizens in the state it obviously is not intended to represent.
Marc, you have a job right? Of course you do, you've posted about it. Hell I've made fun of a few things you said about it.
That being said, if you boss came out and said, we wanted to give raises because 60% of the company wanted it but 40% said nah we're good, so we're not going to do it, would you be upset?
The way it works is if it's put to a vote, yet again, and again it's defeated because 60% of the people want it there, it stays. I thought the will of the people was what was important?
I no longer live there, but it is my home state. If it's put to a vote and the majority want it to stay, it's going to stay. Nothing the Hollywood elite or outsiders from the state that have no say in the voting will change that.
Again you keep focusing on the negative side of it. You're proud of your heritage I assume. I haven't seen you denounce anything your ancestors have done. This is part of many of the people there. Some have direct descendants who fought in the Civil War, myself included. I'm about 4 generations removed from someone who fought in the war and fought for the Confederacy. Didn't own a plantation. Didn't own a slave. He fought because an outside force from another part of the country was invading him home and destroying it. That part of history is what is always forgotten. You do not see people from Mississippi screaming that the US Flag needs to be removed due to the carnage the Union did to the state and never paid a dime to rebuild. No what happened was carpetbaggers showed up and tried to tell my ancestors why they were wrong and how to fix it. Kinda like now.
If it doesn't affect you, don't worry about it. If the majority wants it to stay, it'll stay. But that doesn't mean that 60% of the state is racist as you eluded to. If that's the way you think, you're a sad little man.
I remember the vote in 2001. I also remember there were a lot of black people who supported the flag remaining. Guess they're racists too huh?
You want to keep using generalized statements, I can play that as well.
Here's another nugget for you. The reason why the Confederacy moved from the Stars and Bars was because it was confused with the Union flag on several battlefields and friendly fire was rampant, hence the adaptation of the Naval Jack or the Bonnie Blue.
Fortunately for you and myself, we don't have to vote on the flag, because neither of us live there and it doesn't affect our well being or affects either of us financially.. Well it might me eventually due to property I own there, but that's family land and it's in what you call fly over country.
Does the Tennessee flag represent everyone in Tennessee? How about the Alabama flag? How about the Pennsylvania flag? None of them represent the entire populace as a whole. This could be a slippery slope. Hell does the US flag represent everyone? Doubt it because of all the immigrants in this country.
If the state of Mississippi votes to keep it, it'll stay. But it's already been voted on once. I'm not sure if it'll be voted on again.
"I salute the flag of Mississippi and the sovereign state for which it stands with pride in her history and achievements and with confidence in her future under the guidance of Almighty God."- Pledge of Allegiance to the Mississippi Flag.