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(06-19-2020 05:10 PM)Bleacher Eagle Wrote:  
(06-19-2020 01:55 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  In fairness, the people of MS voted to keep the flag the way it is. It is their flag so i don't see what right outsiders have to force them to make a change.

Anyone who is currently 36 years old or younger wasn’t old enough to have voted on the flag back in 2001. Their voices should not be silenced simply because a previous generation of voters elected to keep it.

People 36 and younger have no idea what thw state flag looks like. They haven't been taught tbat in 20 years.
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(06-19-2020 03:00 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Nobody's forcing anything. The SEC doesn't want to be associated with the Mississippi state flag or the state that embraces it, so they choose to withhold business to entities whose values don't match up with theirs. They have every right to make decisions in their best interest as the state of Mississippi does. Or you, for that matter. If you don't want to spend money there because you don't like what the flag represents, that's a choice you can make. If you want to give them all of your business because you *do* like what the flag represents, that's also a choice. Mississippi isn't legally obligated to change its flag, and the SEC isn't obligated to put tournaments there if they don't like it.

If Virginia wants a rapist as Lt. Gov. a clown as Governor and a total idiot as senator, that's Virginia's problem. Its not for me in Georgia to try to force you to change. And its certainly not for the University of Georgia to tell you to change.
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(06-19-2020 10:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-19-2020 10:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Who are all these people??

They are Marxists. But they are backed by Corporate Multi Nationals. The deal with the SEC is that all of their rights are owned by one of them, Disney. The corporate elites just want unrestricted trade with China and anyone else no matter how at risk it places he security of the United States and its people. China funds the Marxists because they see a great opportunity to create internal instability that furthers their military agenda. Career politicians in Washington just know the Corporate Multi-nationals line their pockets and when they have to do something for them that gets them in hot water inside government the Corporate speaking circuit will keep them well compensated for it. This why Obama and Clinton continue to get paid and those like Bolton will be paid as well for trying to take down the guy who threatens business as usual even though business for real Americans is going much much better under Trump because they aren't giving away the farm to get the multinationals their damn perks.

Trumps base is in the South and Southwest. BLM is designed to anger the Southern and Southwestern voters and make things feel like they are coming apart. Pressuring Mississippi over the flag through the SEC and Finebaum's lackey shows is their way of trying to sow disunity in the South.

The problem is in all of this when Corporations cave, when left wing mayors cave, and when University Presidents cave it makes it seem like BLM is much more powerful than it is.

But remember this. Even if every African American were behind this, which they aren't by a long shot, we are still talking at most 14% of the population which isn't worth it to Corporate America, left wing mayors, or University Presidents to cave into. They stand to lose domestically by doing this. It's the overseas trade that makes up for that and eclipses it making the backing of BLM potentially profitable for them. If Corporate America gets its way the Universities will get a payoff from them in the form of grants (which are a trojan horse in some ways) and the Dem mayors get personally bumped politically.

This isn't about BLM, about Floyd, about statues, about cheers at schools, or flags. This is about sowing disunity, undermining the economy, and selling the pandemic all to get Trump out, cement the Deep State in place, and make America serve their Corporate interests.

Now to BLM it's about power, but the corporate elite don't really care about them or ANTIFA because to them this is just a means to an end.

This. None of these actions, from changing flags to removing statues is about helping blacks. Notice they haven't touched drug reforms or criminal sentencing, thing that would actually address the racial biases within the justice system.

As we head into NOV, I see the nation sailing between Scylla and Charybdis. Should Biden win, the civil unrest will disappear but the dismantling of our freedoms will continue unabated. Trump remaining in power would signal that there are still many who covet American Independence, but the country would explode in civil unrest.
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(06-19-2020 03:01 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  
(06-19-2020 01:55 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  In fairness, the people of MS voted to keep the flag the way it is. It is their flag so i don't see what right outsiders have to force them to make a change.

19 years ago.

take a wild guess which way I vote (if the choice is allowed this merry-go-round)

I'm beyond finished with this pc bs...

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(06-19-2020 07:43 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  They’ll change it but the old one will still fly all over the state the same way as in GA. Go take them down off people’s property snowflakes. Get ya a case of lead poisoning

three are flying in the backyard....

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(06-20-2020 02:54 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-19-2020 10:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-19-2020 10:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Who are all these people??

They are Marxists. But they are backed by Corporate Multi Nationals. The deal with the SEC is that all of their rights are owned by one of them, Disney. The corporate elites just want unrestricted trade with China and anyone else no matter how at risk it places he security of the United States and its people. China funds the Marxists because they see a great opportunity to create internal instability that furthers their military agenda. Career politicians in Washington just know the Corporate Multi-nationals line their pockets and when they have to do something for them that gets them in hot water inside government the Corporate speaking circuit will keep them well compensated for it. This why Obama and Clinton continue to get paid and those like Bolton will be paid as well for trying to take down the guy who threatens business as usual even though business for real Americans is going much much better under Trump because they aren't giving away the farm to get the multinationals their damn perks.

Trumps base is in the South and Southwest. BLM is designed to anger the Southern and Southwestern voters and make things feel like they are coming apart. Pressuring Mississippi over the flag through the SEC and Finebaum's lackey shows is their way of trying to sow disunity in the South.

The problem is in all of this when Corporations cave, when left wing mayors cave, and when University Presidents cave it makes it seem like BLM is much more powerful than it is.

But remember this. Even if every African American were behind this, which they aren't by a long shot, we are still talking at most 14% of the population which isn't worth it to Corporate America, left wing mayors, or University Presidents to cave into. They stand to lose domestically by doing this. It's the overseas trade that makes up for that and eclipses it making the backing of BLM potentially profitable for them. If Corporate America gets its way the Universities will get a payoff from them in the form of grants (which are a trojan horse in some ways) and the Dem mayors get personally bumped politically.

This isn't about BLM, about Floyd, about statues, about cheers at schools, or flags. This is about sowing disunity, undermining the economy, and selling the pandemic all to get Trump out, cement the Deep State in place, and make America serve their Corporate interests.

Now to BLM it's about power, but the corporate elite don't really care about them or ANTIFA because to them this is just a means to an end.

This. None of these actions, from changing flags to removing statues is about helping blacks. Notice they haven't touched drug reforms or criminal sentencing, thing that would actually address the racial biases within the justice system.

As we head into NOV, I see the nation sailing between Scylla and Charybdis. Should Biden win, the civil unrest will disappear but the dismantling of our freedoms will continue unabated. Trump remaining in power would signal that there are still many who covet American Independence, but the country would explode in civil unrest.

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(06-19-2020 10:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-19-2020 10:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Who are all these people??

They are Marxists. But they are backed by Corporate Multi Nationals. The deal with the SEC is that all of their rights are owned by one of them, Disney. The corporate elites just want unrestricted trade with China and anyone else no matter how at risk it places he security of the United States and its people. China funds the Marxists because they see a great opportunity to create internal instability that furthers their military agenda. Career politicians in Washington just know the Corporate Multi-nationals line their pockets and when they have to do something for them that gets them in hot water inside government the Corporate speaking circuit will keep them well compensated for it. This why Obama and Clinton continue to get paid and those like Bolton will be paid as well for trying to take down the guy who threatens business as usual even though business for real Americans is going much much better under Trump because they aren't giving away the farm to get the multinationals their damn perks.

Trumps base is in the South and Southwest. BLM is designed to anger the Southern and Southwestern voters and make things feel like they are coming apart. Pressuring Mississippi over the flag through the SEC and Finebaum's lackey shows is their way of trying to sow disunity in the South.

The problem is in all of this when Corporations cave, when left wing mayors cave, and when University Presidents cave it makes it seem like BLM is much more powerful than it is.

But remember this. Even if every African American were behind this, which they aren't by a long shot, we are still talking at most 14% of the population which isn't worth it to Corporate America, left wing mayors, or University Presidents to cave into. They stand to lose domestically by doing this. It's the overseas trade that makes up for that and eclipses it making the backing of BLM potentially profitable for them. If Corporate America gets its way the Universities will get a payoff from them in the form of grants (which are a trojan horse in some ways) and the Dem mayors get personally bumped politically.

This isn't about BLM, about Floyd, about statues, about cheers at schools, or flags. This is about sowing disunity, undermining the economy, and selling the pandemic all to get Trump out, cement the Deep State in place, and make America serve their Corporate interests.

Now to BLM it's about power, but the corporate elite don't really care about them or ANTIFA because to them this is just a means to an end.

XACLY!
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(06-20-2020 06:49 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  ^^^

#pickAside

I choose the 'specter' of racism over the Harrison Bergeron preview.
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(06-20-2020 08:08 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 06:49 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  ^^^

#pickAside

I choose the 'specter' of racism over the Harrison Bergeron preview.

#muhKurt

I'm more in the Gattaca camp that precedes H.G. Wells...but, Ja?!
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(06-20-2020 08:30 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 08:08 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 06:49 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  ^^^

#pickAside

I choose the 'specter' of racism over the Harrison Bergeron preview.

#muhKurt

I'm more in the Gattaca camp that precedes H.G. Wells...but, Ja?!

They want Demolition Man 2 Stink.


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We are a band of brothers and native to the soil
Fighting for our liberty with treasure, blood, and toil
And when our rights were threatened, the cry rose near and far
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star!

As long as the Union was faithful to her trust
Like friends and like brethren, kind were we, and just
But now, when Northern treachery attempts our rights to mar
We hoist on high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star.

We've borne the Yankee trickery,
The Yankee gibe and sneer,
Till Northern insolence and pride
Know neither shame nor fear;
But ready now with shot and steel
Their brazen front to mar,

______

Sounds relevant to today. Interesting. No wonder the prog filth want to erase history.
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(06-19-2020 05:10 PM)Bleacher Eagle Wrote:  
(06-19-2020 01:55 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  In fairness, the people of MS voted to keep the flag the way it is. It is their flag so i don't see what right outsiders have to force them to make a change.

Anyone who is currently 36 years old or younger wasn’t old enough to have voted on the flag back in 2001. Their voices should not be silenced simply because a previous generation of voters elected to keep it.

What was funny was Ronnie Musgrove was pretty confident that it would be voted out and even stated that when the vote happened, he would help pass a law stating whatever the flag design was it could never be changed...

Ronnie lost and that slipped his mind.
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(06-20-2020 08:30 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 08:08 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 06:49 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  ^^^

#pickAside

I choose the 'specter' of racism over the Harrison Bergeron preview.

#muhKurt

I'm more in the Gattaca camp that precedes H.G. Wells...but, Ja?!

People, any people, don't know what they value until they have to bleed for it. We have a bunch of reformers today who don't know what they are trying to reform, how the reform actually works, and who is paying and encouraging them to push for reform, and how those reforms benefit the organization pushing them to protest.

In other words they really haven't risked anything and have no skin or blood in the game.

When lead flies and friends are laid on the slab, priorities change pretty damned fast and the appreciation of what you actually had weighed against the enormity of what you stand to lose tends to make all violent reform look like the idiocy it is.

I'm not being a hardliner when I ask for a physical crackdown on these protests. What I am actually asking for before it comes to killing, is a show of force that makes many of these protestors ask more serious and fundamental questions of themselves. Is this what I really believe matters? Am I willing to give possibly my life to attain it?

When they are forced to answer those two questions by a relatively mild but forceful response many of these weekend warriors will take their ass home to safety. When that happens the hard core protestors, true believers, and organizers will be left, that is if the organizers don't bug out at that opportunity as well as most of them stay well back of the fray and believe fully in waiting for a better opportunity before they put it all on the line.

Reduce the opposing force by defection of the not fully committed and we have enough jail space, or enough force, to eradicate them without harming the morons who have been duped into being there.
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(06-23-2020 12:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 08:30 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 08:08 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  
(06-20-2020 06:49 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  ^^^

#pickAside

I choose the 'specter' of racism over the Harrison Bergeron preview.

#muhKurt

I'm more in the Gattaca camp that precedes H.G. Wells...but, Ja?!

People, any people, don't know what they value until they have to bleed for it. We have a bunch of reformers today who don't know what they are trying to reform, how the reform actually works, and who is paying and encouraging them to push for reform, and how those reforms benefit the organization pushing them to protest.

In other words they really haven't risked anything and have no skin or blood in the game.

When lead flies and friends are laid on the slab, priorities change pretty damned fast and the appreciation of what you actually had weighed against the enormity of what you stand to lose tends to make all violent reform look like the idiocy it is.

I'm not being a hardliner when I ask for a physical crackdown on these protests. What I am actually asking for before it comes to killing, is a show of force that makes many of these protestors ask more serious and fundamental questions of themselves. Is this what I really believe matters? Am I willing to give possibly my life to attain it?

When they are forced to answer those two questions by a relatively mild but forceful response many of these weekend warriors will take their ass home to safety. When that happens the hard core protestors, true believers, and organizers will be left, that is if the organizers don't bug out at that opportunity as well as most of them stay well back of the fray and believe fully in waiting for a better opportunity before they put it all on the line.

Reduce the opposing force by defection of the not fully committed and we have enough jail space, or enough force, to eradicate them without harming the morons who have been duped into being there.

I could write a diatribe in relativity....however, you deserve another 03-thumbsup how you sum up in a handful of paras...

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(06-19-2020 10:22 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Who are all these people??

Feels like this got moved from one of the conference boards for getting political
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(06-19-2020 12:37 PM)everyone Wrote:  Now the NCAA has made a statement. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...te-symbol/

i wonder if the NCAA will ban schools from paying Yale until they change their name.
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(06-23-2020 11:42 AM)gdunn Wrote:  What was funny was Ronnie Musgrove was pretty confident that it would be voted out and even stated that when the vote happened, he would help pass a law stating whatever the flag design was it could never be changed...

Ronnie lost and that slipped his mind.
Not living in Mississippi, I never heard any of that before. But the idea that Musgrove really thought the referendum would go the other way — Wow. He must’ve been deeply out-of-touch.
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(06-23-2020 05:11 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 11:42 AM)gdunn Wrote:  What was funny was Ronnie Musgrove was pretty confident that it would be voted out and even stated that when the vote happened, he would help pass a law stating whatever the flag design was it could never be changed...

Ronnie lost and that slipped his mind.
Not living in Mississippi, I never heard any of that before. But the idea that Musgrove really thought the referendum would go the other way — Wow. He must’ve been deeply out-of-touch.

Musgrove was a liberal and believed they voted him in that the state was ready for change. He was wrong.
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(06-23-2020 10:08 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 05:11 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 11:42 AM)gdunn Wrote:  What was funny was Ronnie Musgrove was pretty confident that it would be voted out and even stated that when the vote happened, he would help pass a law stating whatever the flag design was it could never be changed...

Ronnie lost and that slipped his mind.
Not living in Mississippi, I never heard any of that before. But the idea that Musgrove really thought the referendum would go the other way — Wow. He must’ve been deeply out-of-touch.

Musgrove was a liberal and believed they voted him in that the state was ready for change. He was wrong.

which was a great thing...
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I think the Rebel flag helps remind others of who the people of Mississippi truly are. No reason to change it.
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