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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
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(06-25-2020 04:39 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  CollegiateConsulting@CollConsulting1h
Bethunecookman just informed MEAC they are leaving the conference to join the SWAC.

Good for them. Tennessee St must've said "no" or Florida A&M insisted on Bethune-Cookman. Now to see how the MEAC responds...or doesn't.

I doubt FAMU insisted on B-C. Its just that the realistic choices were:
1) stay at 11;
2) Tennessee St. who wasn't likely;
3) B-C;
4) Go to 14 and effectively kill the MEAC making the SWAC the lone Div I HBCU conference.

Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
(06-25-2020 10:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 08:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 05:13 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 04:39 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  CollegiateConsulting@CollConsulting1h
Bethunecookman just informed MEAC they are leaving the conference to join the SWAC.

Good for them. Tennessee St must've said "no" or Florida A&M insisted on Bethune-Cookman. Now to see how the MEAC responds...or doesn't.

I doubt FAMU insisted on B-C. Its just that the realistic choices were:
1) stay at 11;
2) Tennessee St. who wasn't likely;
3) B-C;
4) Go to 14 and effectively kill the MEAC making the SWAC the lone Div I HBCU conference.

Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.

The SWAC had all the power. They could have told FAMU to FO if BCU had to be taken. FAMU is the one moving for travel and media rights reasons.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
(06-25-2020 10:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 08:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 05:13 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 04:39 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  CollegiateConsulting@CollConsulting1h
Bethunecookman just informed MEAC they are leaving the conference to join the SWAC.

Good for them. Tennessee St must've said "no" or Florida A&M insisted on Bethune-Cookman. Now to see how the MEAC responds...or doesn't.

I doubt FAMU insisted on B-C. Its just that the realistic choices were:
1) stay at 11;
2) Tennessee St. who wasn't likely;
3) B-C;
4) Go to 14 and effectively kill the MEAC making the SWAC the lone Div I HBCU conference.

Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.

If you want 12 and TN St. isn't coming, B-C is the next best fit.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
(06-26-2020 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 10:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 08:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 05:13 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 04:39 PM)North Ala Supporter Wrote:  CollegiateConsulting@CollConsulting1h
Bethunecookman just informed MEAC they are leaving the conference to join the SWAC.

Good for them. Tennessee St must've said "no" or Florida A&M insisted on Bethune-Cookman. Now to see how the MEAC responds...or doesn't.

I doubt FAMU insisted on B-C. Its just that the realistic choices were:
1) stay at 11;
2) Tennessee St. who wasn't likely;
3) B-C;
4) Go to 14 and effectively kill the MEAC making the SWAC the lone Div I HBCU conference.

Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.

If you want 12 and TN St. isn't coming, B-C is the next best fit.

As far as needing to be at 12 with all HBCUs, this is true. However, I'm not sure why they rushed to 12 unless Tennessee St said "no" and Bethune-Cookman was potentially pursued by another conference like the Atlantic Sun.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
(06-26-2020 09:47 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 10:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 08:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 05:13 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Good for them. Tennessee St must've said "no" or Florida A&M insisted on Bethune-Cookman. Now to see how the MEAC responds...or doesn't.

I doubt FAMU insisted on B-C. Its just that the realistic choices were:
1) stay at 11;
2) Tennessee St. who wasn't likely;
3) B-C;
4) Go to 14 and effectively kill the MEAC making the SWAC the lone Div I HBCU conference.

Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.

If you want 12 and TN St. isn't coming, B-C is the next best fit.

As far as needing to be at 12 with all HBCUs, this is true. However, I'm not sure why they rushed to 12 unless Tennessee St said "no" and Bethune-Cookman was potentially pursued by another conference like the Atlantic Sun.

The point is that there is nobody else. Why wait if there is only one option? Durham, NC and Norfolk, VA are a long ways away and make no sense as a #12. Maybe as a #13/#14 pair. SIAC schools cannot afford Div. I.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
https://hbcugameday.com/2020/06/25/bethu...-for-swac/

It's official BCU to the SWAC in 2021

Wow,
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
(06-26-2020 09:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:47 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 10:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 08:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  I doubt FAMU insisted on B-C. Its just that the realistic choices were:
1) stay at 11;
2) Tennessee St. who wasn't likely;
3) B-C;
4) Go to 14 and effectively kill the MEAC making the SWAC the lone Div I HBCU conference.

Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.

If you want 12 and TN St. isn't coming, B-C is the next best fit.

As far as needing to be at 12 with all HBCUs, this is true. However, I'm not sure why they rushed to 12 unless Tennessee St said "no" and Bethune-Cookman was potentially pursued by another conference like the Atlantic Sun.

The point is that there is nobody else. Why wait if there is only one option? Durham, NC and Norfolk, VA are a long ways away and make no sense as a #12. Maybe as a #13/#14 pair. SIAC schools cannot afford Div. I.

I definitely understand your point. I'm just not sure why the SWAC felt it necessary to go to 12 for the sake of 12. I'm sure there was a purpose.
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Tennessee State must have said no.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
(06-26-2020 11:40 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:47 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 10:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.

If you want 12 and TN St. isn't coming, B-C is the next best fit.

As far as needing to be at 12 with all HBCUs, this is true. However, I'm not sure why they rushed to 12 unless Tennessee St said "no" and Bethune-Cookman was potentially pursued by another conference like the Atlantic Sun.

The point is that there is nobody else. Why wait if there is only one option? Durham, NC and Norfolk, VA are a long ways away and make no sense as a #12. Maybe as a #13/#14 pair. SIAC schools cannot afford Div. I.

I definitely understand your point. I'm just not sure why the SWAC felt it necessary to go to 12 for the sake of 12. I'm sure there was a purpose.

Even numbers make scheduling easier in both basketball and football Otherwise somebody has to go out of conference on each date. Also makes their division cleaner when both halves have the same number.

And maybe there is some calculation on becoming THE HBCU conference in Division I. But they wouldn't admit that.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
Has there ever been talk about SWAC schools going to PWI conferences like the Southland or OVC?
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Texas Southern was rumored with Southland Conference last year, per some HBCU sports talk host.

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(06-26-2020 12:48 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Texas Southern was rumored with Southland Conference last year, per some HBCU sports talk host.


The Board of Rebents is the wrong board to make that decision
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(06-26-2020 12:48 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Texas Southern was rumored with Southland Conference last year, per some HBCU sports talk host.


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Would have been a terrible move. Good thing they stayed, if they were even invited. Joining the bloated Southland wouldn’t have been smart.
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(06-26-2020 11:40 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:47 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 10:07 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  Bethune-Cookman is not exactly a good fit for the SWAC which is why I wonder if Florida A&M insisted.

If you want 12 and TN St. isn't coming, B-C is the next best fit.

As far as needing to be at 12 with all HBCUs, this is true. However, I'm not sure why they rushed to 12 unless Tennessee St said "no" and Bethune-Cookman was potentially pursued by another conference like the Atlantic Sun.

The point is that there is nobody else. Why wait if there is only one option? Durham, NC and Norfolk, VA are a long ways away and make no sense as a #12. Maybe as a #13/#14 pair. SIAC schools cannot afford Div. I.

I definitely understand your point. I'm just not sure why the SWAC felt it necessary to go to 12 for the sake of 12. I'm sure there was a purpose.

My guess is that they wanted more highlighted games. With more FBS schools pulling back from scheduling FCs schools, this guarantees a 9 game conference schedule. Plus they can add a conference championship game which will probably be played in New Orleans.
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(06-26-2020 01:19 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 11:40 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:47 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 09:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  If you want 12 and TN St. isn't coming, B-C is the next best fit.

As far as needing to be at 12 with all HBCUs, this is true. However, I'm not sure why they rushed to 12 unless Tennessee St said "no" and Bethune-Cookman was potentially pursued by another conference like the Atlantic Sun.

The point is that there is nobody else. Why wait if there is only one option? Durham, NC and Norfolk, VA are a long ways away and make no sense as a #12. Maybe as a #13/#14 pair. SIAC schools cannot afford Div. I.

I definitely understand your point. I'm just not sure why the SWAC felt it necessary to go to 12 for the sake of 12. I'm sure there was a purpose.

My guess is that they wanted more highlighted games. With more FBS schools pulling back from scheduling FCs schools, this guarantees a 9 game conference schedule. Plus they can add a conference championship game which will probably be played in New Orleans.

...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAC_Championship_Game

Also, a 10-team conference can guarantee 9 conference games just as well as a 12-team conference can.
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RE: Bethune-Cookman officials meeting to discuss move to the SWAC
(06-26-2020 11:40 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  I definitely understand your point. I'm just not sure why the SWAC felt it necessary to go to 12 for the sake of 12. I'm sure there was a purpose.

It's not just for the sake of 12 if they bring the Florida Classic in-conference.

As far as staying at 10 and having a 9 game schedule, they kind of already decided to go to 12 when they decided to take FAMU. If Tennessee State said no, it's not clear where there is a better #12 than B-C, and since B-C came to them asking for a sport, no risk of getting turned down.

Indeed, since they knew full well that taking FAMU would put B-C in even worse travel cost issues in a single division MEAC, there wouldn't be much risk in taking FAMU looking at Tennessee State as #12 Plan A and B-C as #12 Plan B.
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