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160 people under 25 years old have died in the entire nation. The level to which reasonable people have lost their ability to reason on this issue is mind boggling. Maybe we should spin up a study to see if COVID causes irrational thoughts and a sense of impending doom.

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:01 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Models have certainly done an excellent job in predicting this so far, I have no reason to believe this one won’t also be spot on.

/sarcasm

Unfortunately, the models were far more optimistic than what has occured.

I really would be surprised if any football is played.....extremely surprised if fans are involved (maybe a far slimmed down attendance?)

Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:01 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Models have certainly done an excellent job in predicting this so far, I have no reason to believe this one won’t also be spot on.

/sarcasm

Unfortunately, the models were far more optimistic than what has occured.

I really would be surprised if any football is played.....extremely surprised if fans are involved (maybe a far slimmed down attendance?)

Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

Could you please back that statement up? 160 people under 25 have died from COVID in the entire country. Where is the data you are citing to support your position that "kids are going to die for our entertainment"?

Also, can you explain how you have determined that these kids are more likely to get COVID from playing football than they are living their normal college aged life which on average includes a good bit of partying and socializing in groups.

Further, is it your job to make these decisions for the kids? How many will miss out on a lucrative career because they did not get an opportunity to have that breakout season they were looking for in their senior season.

Enough with the hysteria, back your statements up with some substance if you are going to accuse folks of sending kids to their death for personal entertainment.

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(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:01 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Models have certainly done an excellent job in predicting this so far, I have no reason to believe this one won’t also be spot on.

/sarcasm

Unfortunately, the models were far more optimistic than what has occured.

I really would be surprised if any football is played.....extremely surprised if fans are involved (maybe a far slimmed down attendance?)

Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

These kids are far more likely to have to deal with the effects of CTE than than they are COVID in the long term. If we want to be sanctimonious about the health of these young men, we better protest the sport altogether, starting with head injuries.

(07-01-2020 07:57 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:01 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Models have certainly done an excellent job in predicting this so far, I have no reason to believe this one won’t also be spot on.

/sarcasm

Unfortunately, the models were far more optimistic than what has occured.

I really would be surprised if any football is played.....extremely surprised if fans are involved (maybe a far slimmed down attendance?)

Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

Could you please back that statement up? 160 people under 25 have died from COVID in the entire country. Where is the data you are citing to support your position that "kids are going to die for our entertainment"?

Also, can you explain how you have determined that these kids are more likely to get COVID from playing football than they are living their normal college aged life which on average includes a good bit of partying and socializing in groups.

Further, is it your job to make these decisions for the kids? How many will miss out on a lucrative career because they did not get an opportunity to have that breakout season they were looking for in their senior season.

Enough with the hysteria, back your statements up with some substance if you are going to accuse folks of sending kids to their death for personal entertainment.

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Just 160? ONE college football player losing/risking their life is enough to cancel the season. Do you disagree?

(07-01-2020 08:19 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  I am hearing there is a real chance that this FBS football season will be postponed to February.

Quoting Cal's post here for relevance.

I talked to a Clemson coach over the weekend and felt more optimistic but Cals sources are usually spot on.

Unfortunately football is a game that you are not going to be able to prevent the spread of Covid. Similar to Clemson, once 1 person gets it, it spreads like wildfire throughout the program. What happens when 25 ODU players have COVID the week of the game? 35? Do you just sit them out and let the others play?

If you can prove that there are no long term affects related to this virus (lungs), then maybe I can see them trying to press on with the season without fans.

I really want to see football this fall, I just don't think it will happen......maybe without fans at some point?

(07-02-2020 08:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I talked to a Clemson coach over the weekend and felt more optimistic but Cals sources are usually spot on.

Unfortunately football is a game that you are not going to be able to prevent the spread of Covid. Similar to Clemson, once 1 person gets it, it spreads like wildfire throughout the program. What happens when 25 ODU players have COVID the week of the game? 35? Do you just sit them out and let the others play?

If you can prove that there are no long term affects related to this virus (lungs), then maybe I can see them trying to press on with the season without fans.

I really want to see football this fall, I just don't think it will happen......maybe without fans at some point?

Clemson is still moving forward as usual even though they have 27 players with COVID. Stupid is as Stupid Does as Forest Gump would say

(07-01-2020 09:19 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 07:57 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 10:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Unfortunately, the models were far more optimistic than what has occured.

I really would be surprised if any football is played.....extremely surprised if fans are involved (maybe a far slimmed down attendance?)

Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

Could you please back that statement up? 160 people under 25 have died from COVID in the entire country. Where is the data you are citing to support your position that "kids are going to die for our entertainment"?

Also, can you explain how you have determined that these kids are more likely to get COVID from playing football than they are living their normal college aged life which on average includes a good bit of partying and socializing in groups.

Further, is it your job to make these decisions for the kids? How many will miss out on a lucrative career because they did not get an opportunity to have that breakout season they were looking for in their senior season.

Enough with the hysteria, back your statements up with some substance if you are going to accuse folks of sending kids to their death for personal entertainment.

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Just 160? ONE college football player losing/risking their life is enough to cancel the season. Do you disagree?

160 out of the the entire population of the nation is minuscule, which indicates that the likelihood of a football player's death due to COVID from football activities is about as likely as a player getting struck by lightning because of football activities.

(07-02-2020 08:26 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 08:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I talked to a Clemson coach over the weekend and felt more optimistic but Cals sources are usually spot on.

Unfortunately football is a game that you are not going to be able to prevent the spread of Covid. Similar to Clemson, once 1 person gets it, it spreads like wildfire throughout the program. What happens when 25 ODU players have COVID the week of the game? 35? Do you just sit them out and let the others play?

If you can prove that there are no long term affects related to this virus (lungs), then maybe I can see them trying to press on with the season without fans.

I really want to see football this fall, I just don't think it will happen......maybe without fans at some point?

Clemson is still moving forward as usual even though they have 27 players with COVID. Stupid is as Stupid Does as Forest Gump would say

They have 37 that have tested positive. Money will make you due some dumb things.....

But, one one end this is just practice time, they can sit out for a couple weeks and resume. If this was in season,you are missing 2-3 games at the very least.

(07-02-2020 08:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I talked to a Clemson coach over the weekend and felt more optimistic but Cals sources are usually spot on.

Unfortunately football is a game that you are not going to be able to prevent the spread of Covid. Similar to Clemson, once 1 person gets it, it spreads like wildfire throughout the program. What happens when 25 ODU players have COVID the week of the game? 35? Do you just sit them out and let the others play?

If you can prove that there are no long term affects related to this virus (lungs), then maybe I can see them trying to press on with the season without fans.

I really want to see football this fall, I just don't think it will happen......maybe without fans at some point?

Why is it that conjecture is considered the standard until it is disproved these days. Where is the evidence that people are being/going to be afflicted with long term health issues on any significant scale? Seems we would be seeing a lot if it since probably at least 10 million people have contracted COVID in The US alone.

(07-02-2020 08:31 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 09:19 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 07:57 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

Could you please back that statement up? 160 people under 25 have died from COVID in the entire country. Where is the data you are citing to support your position that "kids are going to die for our entertainment"?

Also, can you explain how you have determined that these kids are more likely to get COVID from playing football than they are living their normal college aged life which on average includes a good bit of partying and socializing in groups.

Further, is it your job to make these decisions for the kids? How many will miss out on a lucrative career because they did not get an opportunity to have that breakout season they were looking for in their senior season.

Enough with the hysteria, back your statements up with some substance if you are going to accuse folks of sending kids to their death for personal entertainment.

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Just 160? ONE college football player losing/risking their life is enough to cancel the season. Do you disagree?

160 out of the the entire population of the nation is minuscule, which indicates that the likelihood of a football player's death due to COVID from football activities is about as likely as a player getting struck by lightning because of football activities.

And yet, if i recall correctly, our stadium has been cleared mid-game due to lightening

(07-02-2020 09:12 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 08:25 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I talked to a Clemson coach over the weekend and felt more optimistic but Cals sources are usually spot on.

Unfortunately football is a game that you are not going to be able to prevent the spread of Covid. Similar to Clemson, once 1 person gets it, it spreads like wildfire throughout the program. What happens when 25 ODU players have COVID the week of the game? 35? Do you just sit them out and let the others play?

If you can prove that there are no long term affects related to this virus (lungs), then maybe I can see them trying to press on with the season without fans.

I really want to see football this fall, I just don't think it will happen......maybe without fans at some point?

Why is it that conjecture is considered the standard until it is disproved these days. Where is the evidence that people are being/going to be afflicted with long term health issues on any significant scale? Seems we would be seeing a lot if it since probably at least 10 million people have contracted COVID in The US alone.

Because we're talking about a very real health concern that could be fatal. Common sense says err on the safe side.

(07-02-2020 08:31 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 09:19 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 07:57 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

Could you please back that statement up? 160 people under 25 have died from COVID in the entire country. Where is the data you are citing to support your position that "kids are going to die for our entertainment"?

Also, can you explain how you have determined that these kids are more likely to get COVID from playing football than they are living their normal college aged life which on average includes a good bit of partying and socializing in groups.

Further, is it your job to make these decisions for the kids? How many will miss out on a lucrative career because they did not get an opportunity to have that breakout season they were looking for in their senior season.

Enough with the hysteria, back your statements up with some substance if you are going to accuse folks of sending kids to their death for personal entertainment.

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Just 160? ONE college football player losing/risking their life is enough to cancel the season. Do you disagree?

160 out of the the entire population of the nation is minuscule, which indicates that the likelihood of a football player's death due to COVID from football activities is about as likely as a player getting struck by lightning because of football activities.

Yet they still clear the stadium during a thunderstorm to prevent those.

(07-02-2020 09:36 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(07-02-2020 08:31 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 09:19 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 07:57 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

Could you please back that statement up? 160 people under 25 have died from COVID in the entire country. Where is the data you are citing to support your position that "kids are going to die for our entertainment"?

Also, can you explain how you have determined that these kids are more likely to get COVID from playing football than they are living their normal college aged life which on average includes a good bit of partying and socializing in groups.

Further, is it your job to make these decisions for the kids? How many will miss out on a lucrative career because they did not get an opportunity to have that breakout season they were looking for in their senior season.

Enough with the hysteria, back your statements up with some substance if you are going to accuse folks of sending kids to their death for personal entertainment.

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Just 160? ONE college football player losing/risking their life is enough to cancel the season. Do you disagree?

160 out of the the entire population of the nation is minuscule, which indicates that the likelihood of a football player's death due to COVID from football activities is about as likely as a player getting struck by lightning because of football activities.

And yet, if i recall correctly, our stadium has been cleared mid-game due to lightening

(07-02-2020 08:31 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 09:19 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 07:57 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:50 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(07-01-2020 06:29 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the COVID virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.

Yeah! These kids should die for our entertainment! Who doesn't like watching bloodsport?

Could you please back that statement up? 160 people under 25 have died from COVID in the entire country. Where is the data you are citing to support your position that "kids are going to die for our entertainment"?

Also, can you explain how you have determined that these kids are more likely to get COVID from playing football than they are living their normal college aged life which on average includes a good bit of partying and socializing in groups.

Further, is it your job to make these decisions for the kids? How many will miss out on a lucrative career because they did not get an opportunity to have that breakout season they were looking for in their senior season.

Enough with the hysteria, back your statements up with some substance if you are going to accuse folks of sending kids to their death for personal entertainment.

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Just 160? ONE college football player losing/risking their life is enough to cancel the season. Do you disagree?

160 out of the the entire population of the nation is minuscule, which indicates that the likelihood of a football player's death due to COVID from football activities is about as likely as a player getting struck by lightning because of football activities.

You'd have to divide 160 by the number of the same age group infected to get the probability of dying from it as an 18-24 year old.

The question I have is, how many of those Clemson players were symptomatic?

(07-01-2020 08:56 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  160 people under 25 years old have died in the entire nation. The level to which reasonable people have lost their ability to reason on this issue is mind boggling. Maybe we should spin up a study to see if COVID causes irrational thoughts and a sense of impending doom.

Amen. Amen. Amen.