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(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
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They needed to bring these kids on campus and quarantine the whole team and coaches for 14 days then start practice. Would have reduced the possibility of transmission. Cold have done it like Spring Training Baseball, pitchers and catchers report and then the rest of the players. So QB's WR's, RB's, and TE's followed by the rest or something like that.

You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.
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(06-23-2020 12:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:16 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
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They needed to bring these kids on campus and quarantine the whole team and coaches for 14 days then start practice. Would have reduced the possibility of transmission. Cold have done it like Spring Training Baseball, pitchers and catchers report and then the rest of the players. So QB's WR's, RB's, and TE's followed by the rest or something like that.

You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.

Ha. Good luck with keeping 150 18-22 year old kids that know the virus is no threat to them locked into a dorm without leaving for anything but football practice or games for months on end.
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(06-23-2020 12:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:16 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 05:58 PM)Grommet Wrote:  

They needed to bring these kids on campus and quarantine the whole team and coaches for 14 days then start practice. Would have reduced the possibility of transmission. Cold have done it like Spring Training Baseball, pitchers and catchers report and then the rest of the players. So QB's WR's, RB's, and TE's followed by the rest or something like that.

You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.

Ha. Good luck with keeping 150 18-22 year old kids that know the virus is no threat to them locked into a dorm without leaving for anything but football practice or games for months on end.

I didn't say months, I said two weeks. I mean in this Iowa situation if they has quarantined the kids even for a week to 10 days they MIGHT not be in the situation where they are holding on tix sales. And it does affect kids, just not at the rate as adults or older folks. it attacks the lungs, lung performance can be reduced for weeks to months after the virus runs its course. I just chatted with a 25 year old who is in her 7th week of recovery and she can't walk down the street without gasping for air. No underlying conditions, no asthma, perfectly health prior to the virus. I am just saying being proactive is the best course of action and if the kids want to play ball they will do what is necessary.
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(06-23-2020 12:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:16 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-22-2020 05:58 PM)Grommet Wrote:  

They needed to bring these kids on campus and quarantine the whole team and coaches for 14 days then start practice. Would have reduced the possibility of transmission. Cold have done it like Spring Training Baseball, pitchers and catchers report and then the rest of the players. So QB's WR's, RB's, and TE's followed by the rest or something like that.

You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.

Ha. Good luck with keeping 150 18-22 year old kids that know the virus is no threat to them locked into a dorm without leaving for anything but football practice or games for months on end.

Then they/you are misinformed. While the death rate is only slightly greater than that of the Flu in 20 yr olds, there is growing evidence of permanent lung, liver, and/or kidney damage that may occur in some cases even to those in their 20s who are/were otherwise asymptomatic or exhibit only mild symptoms.

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(06-23-2020 06:53 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:16 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  They needed to bring these kids on campus and quarantine the whole team and coaches for 14 days then start practice. Would have reduced the possibility of transmission. Cold have done it like Spring Training Baseball, pitchers and catchers report and then the rest of the players. So QB's WR's, RB's, and TE's followed by the rest or something like that.

You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.

Ha. Good luck with keeping 150 18-22 year old kids that know the virus is no threat to them locked into a dorm without leaving for anything but football practice or games for months on end.

Then they/you are misinformed. While the death rate is only slightly greater than that of the Flu in 20 yr olds, there is growing evidence of permanent lung, liver, and/or kidney damage that may occur in some cases even to those in their 20s who are/were otherwise asymptomatic or exhibit only mild symptoms.

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Can you cite that. Seems we would have known about this before now if it was happening to a statistically significant number of young people.

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(06-23-2020 12:32 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:16 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  They needed to bring these kids on campus and quarantine the whole team and coaches for 14 days then start practice. Would have reduced the possibility of transmission. Cold have done it like Spring Training Baseball, pitchers and catchers report and then the rest of the players. So QB's WR's, RB's, and TE's followed by the rest or something like that.

You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.

Ha. Good luck with keeping 150 18-22 year old kids that know the virus is no threat to them locked into a dorm without leaving for anything but football practice or games for months on end.

I didn't say months, I said two weeks. I mean in this Iowa situation if they has quarantined the kids even for a week to 10 days they MIGHT not be in the situation where they are holding on tix sales. And it does affect kids, just not at the rate as adults or older folks. it attacks the lungs, lung performance can be reduced for weeks to months after the virus runs its course. I just chatted with a 25 year old who is in her 7th week of recovery and she can't walk down the street without gasping for air. No underlying conditions, no asthma, perfectly health prior to the virus. I am just saying being proactive is the best course of action and if the kids want to play ball they will do what is necessary.
And what happens after the two week quarantine period? They go back out and party and get COVID and then go to practice and it starts to spread. Unless you plan to quarantine them for the entire season, how does your quarantine plan work?

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(06-23-2020 08:00 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:32 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.

Ha. Good luck with keeping 150 18-22 year old kids that know the virus is no threat to them locked into a dorm without leaving for anything but football practice or games for months on end.

I didn't say months, I said two weeks. I mean in this Iowa situation if they has quarantined the kids even for a week to 10 days they MIGHT not be in the situation where they are holding on tix sales. And it does affect kids, just not at the rate as adults or older folks. it attacks the lungs, lung performance can be reduced for weeks to months after the virus runs its course. I just chatted with a 25 year old who is in her 7th week of recovery and she can't walk down the street without gasping for air. No underlying conditions, no asthma, perfectly health prior to the virus. I am just saying being proactive is the best course of action and if the kids want to play ball they will do what is necessary.
And what happens after the two week quarantine period? They go back out and party and get COVID and then go to practice and it starts to spread. Unless you plan to quarantine them for the entire season, how does your quarantine plan work?

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I was simply saying that the season hasn't even started and they are losing players in pre-season practice sessions. If they had tightened the reigns when the kids arrived on campus and ensured that all of them were virus free before starting practice they PERHAPS they would be in a better place and not be talking about canceling tix sales. And If I was coach I would take every precaution to keep my team away from anyone and everyone
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(06-23-2020 12:32 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:23 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:18 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 12:16 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  They needed to bring these kids on campus and quarantine the whole team and coaches for 14 days then start practice. Would have reduced the possibility of transmission. Cold have done it like Spring Training Baseball, pitchers and catchers report and then the rest of the players. So QB's WR's, RB's, and TE's followed by the rest or something like that.

You seriously believe these kids aren't out partying? It is not like the Navy, where you quarantine everyone for 14 days and then put them directly on the boat with no outside interactions.

I believe if a kid who is serious about football and who wants to play, will do what is necessary no matter how much it sucks. And it is the coaches job to enforce the rules. I mean the alternative is no practice, no games, no future NFL prospects. It is all about priorities.

Ha. Good luck with keeping 150 18-22 year old kids that know the virus is no threat to them locked into a dorm without leaving for anything but football practice or games for months on end.

I didn't say months, I said two weeks. I mean in this Iowa situation if they has quarantined the kids even for a week to 10 days they MIGHT not be in the situation where they are holding on tix sales. And it does affect kids, just not at the rate as adults or older folks. it attacks the lungs, lung performance can be reduced for weeks to months after the virus runs its course. I just chatted with a 25 year old who is in her 7th week of recovery and she can't walk down the street without gasping for air. No underlying conditions, no asthma, perfectly health prior to the virus. I am just saying being proactive is the best course of action and if the kids want to play ball they will do what is necessary.
99% of them will shake it off with no symptoms. You can't control what you can't control.

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There is no way the season is going to be played. We are how many weeks out from the start of the season? And season ticket orders still haven’t been taken. The writing is on the wall.
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(06-25-2020 08:49 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  There is no way the season is going to be played. We are how many weeks out from the start of the season? And season ticket orders still haven’t been taken. The writing is on the wall.

Huh? I paid for my football tickets last week and new orders are currently being taken. I have a feeling that I'm either going to get a refund or have a credit in 2021 but they are still taking orders. Now if you are talking about basketball it is far too early for those tickets to be in the conversation.
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(06-26-2020 06:31 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 08:49 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  There is no way the season is going to be played. We are how many weeks out from the start of the season? And season ticket orders still haven’t been taken. The writing is on the wall.

Huh? I paid for my football tickets last week and new orders are currently being taken. I have a feeling that I'm either going to get a refund or have a credit in 2021 but they are still taking orders. Now if you are talking about basketball it is far too early for those tickets to be in the conversation.

I should have said the deadline for season tickets has not been set. A deadline that is typically May 1. Expect a refund for the tickets you bought.
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Kids not getting sick you say?

From the conservative WSJ:
Quote:The virus that ravaged Northeastern U.S. cities is surging through Southern and Western states. It’s different this time.
Younger people are getting sick with Covid-19.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus..._lead_pos7
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Is this the standard now? We lock everyone away until nobody gets sick. Had to move the goalpost since death rates continue to fall drastically nationally, and are really not spiking even in the hotspots?

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(06-26-2020 10:36 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Kids not getting sick you say?

From the conservative WSJ:
Quote:The virus that ravaged Northeastern U.S. cities is surging through Southern and Western states. It’s different this time.
Younger people are getting sick with Covid-19.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus..._lead_pos7
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(06-26-2020 10:36 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Kids not getting sick you say?

From the conservative WSJ:
Quote:The virus that ravaged Northeastern U.S. cities is surging through Southern and Western states. It’s different this time.
Younger people are getting sick with Covid-19.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus..._lead_pos7

From the article:

Quote: Increased testing is likely responsible for part of the data shift toward younger people, epidemiologists said. Health officials and doctors are testing more mild and asymptomatic patients nationwide than in March and April, as the availability of tests has grown, they said

There are a couple of quotes from doctors in the article that state that “young people are ending up in the hospitals”, but they provide no data to back that up. I’m sure there are individual cases of healthy 20-somethings who end up really sick with COVID, but statistically speaking, it doesn’t seem to be all that many.
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Quote:With its announcement Saturday, Kansas State became the first school from a Power 5 conference to shut down football activities. Two other Football Bowl Subdivision schools did the same after outbreaks among their athletes, with Houston making the decision June 12 and Boise State on Monday.

The article covers a lot of ground.
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Models have certainly done an excellent job in predicting this so far, I have no reason to believe this one won’t also be spot on.

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(06-30-2020 10:01 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Models have certainly done an excellent job in predicting this so far, I have no reason to believe this one won’t also be spot on.

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Unfortunately, the models were far more optimistic than what has occured.

I really would be surprised if any football is played.....extremely surprised if fans are involved (maybe a far slimmed down attendance?)
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(06-30-2020 10:16 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 10:01 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Models have certainly done an excellent job in predicting this so far, I have no reason to believe this one won’t also be spot on.

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Unfortunately, the models were far more optimistic than what has occured.

I really would be surprised if any football is played.....extremely surprised if fans are involved (maybe a far slimmed down attendance?)

Phew, what a relief! As otherwise healthy 18-24 year olds, I am sure that these non-playing athletes will all now stay sequestered in their rooms. None of them will go to the beach. None of them will go to parties or on dates. None of them will get talked into whatever "rave" is happening over the weekend.

And when even more than 3-7 of these sidelined players pass away from the Wuhan virus anyway, you will be the first to insist that it would have been even worse if we had let them play this season.
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