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(06-26-2020 02:01 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Another advantage Dixie State has over Tarleton State is St. George, Utah's annual growth over Stephenville, Texas. In 1980, both communities were virtually the same size at approximately 11.5K. Now, St. George, Utah population is nearly 93K whereas Stephenville, TX population is just under 22K. St. George, UT grew nearly the whole population of Stephenville in the last 10 years.

Report: 3 Utah Areas Top Nation in Population Growth

From US News article...
"St. George ranked fifth in growth among all metro areas, growing 29% from 138,115 residents to 177,556."

Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

True or not I dont understand how Ft Worth is relevant to the main Tarleton campus as its an hour and 15 away. Whether or not Ft worth is the fastest growing city is irrelevant but just for fun heres a list I found. Im sure theres probably 20 different ones to choose from though.

https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/faste...ties-in-us

C'mon man, we already covered this. Let me break it down for you:
1. Ft. Worth campus is where the largest enrollment growth will be.
2. Ft. Worth students will still pay the new athletic fee
3. Larger enrollment + Increased athletic fee = more money.
4. More money equates to facility upgrades, projects, etc.
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(06-30-2020 09:29 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
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(06-26-2020 02:01 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Another advantage Dixie State has over Tarleton State is St. George, Utah's annual growth over Stephenville, Texas. In 1980, both communities were virtually the same size at approximately 11.5K. Now, St. George, Utah population is nearly 93K whereas Stephenville, TX population is just under 22K. St. George, UT grew nearly the whole population of Stephenville in the last 10 years.

Report: 3 Utah Areas Top Nation in Population Growth

From US News article...
"St. George ranked fifth in growth among all metro areas, growing 29% from 138,115 residents to 177,556."

Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

Lost me there.

Ok, I'll entertain your request:

http://fortworthtexas.gov/news/2020/06/P...Estimates/

"Seattle has been the fastest growing large city (more than 500,000 population) since 2010, with 24% growth between 2010 and 2019, while Fort Worth and Austin are tied for second-fastest-growing large city."

I was way off-base, FTW is the 2nd fastest-growing city.

So they are second according to your article. And they don't even appear in the Quicken Loans article even though that article has 2 rankings:

Fastest-Growing Cities By Percentage Growth
Fastest-Growing Cities By Population Growth

More importantly, you were wrong. That's what really matters in all of this.
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(06-30-2020 11:38 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
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(06-26-2020 05:41 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 02:01 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Another advantage Dixie State has over Tarleton State is St. George, Utah's annual growth over Stephenville, Texas. In 1980, both communities were virtually the same size at approximately 11.5K. Now, St. George, Utah population is nearly 93K whereas Stephenville, TX population is just under 22K. St. George, UT grew nearly the whole population of Stephenville in the last 10 years.

Report: 3 Utah Areas Top Nation in Population Growth

From US News article...
"St. George ranked fifth in growth among all metro areas, growing 29% from 138,115 residents to 177,556."

Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

Lost me there.

Ok, I'll entertain your request:

http://fortworthtexas.gov/news/2020/06/P...Estimates/

"Seattle has been the fastest growing large city (more than 500,000 population) since 2010, with 24% growth between 2010 and 2019, while Fort Worth and Austin are tied for second-fastest-growing large city."

I was way off-base, FTW is the 2nd fastest-growing city.

So they are second according to your article. And they don't even appear in the Quicken Loans article even though that article has 2 rankings:

Fastest-Growing Cities By Percentage Growth
Fastest-Growing Cities By Population Growth

More importantly, you were wrong. That's what really matters in all of this.

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(06-30-2020 11:38 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 09:29 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 08:15 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 05:41 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 02:01 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Another advantage Dixie State has over Tarleton State is St. George, Utah's annual growth over Stephenville, Texas. In 1980, both communities were virtually the same size at approximately 11.5K. Now, St. George, Utah population is nearly 93K whereas Stephenville, TX population is just under 22K. St. George, UT grew nearly the whole population of Stephenville in the last 10 years.

Report: 3 Utah Areas Top Nation in Population Growth

From US News article...
"St. George ranked fifth in growth among all metro areas, growing 29% from 138,115 residents to 177,556."

Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

Lost me there.

Ok, I'll entertain your request:

http://fortworthtexas.gov/news/2020/06/P...Estimates/

"Seattle has been the fastest growing large city (more than 500,000 population) since 2010, with 24% growth between 2010 and 2019, while Fort Worth and Austin are tied for second-fastest-growing large city."

I was way off-base, FTW is the 2nd fastest-growing city.

So they are second according to your article. And they don't even appear in the Quicken Loans article even though that article has 2 rankings:

Fastest-Growing Cities By Percentage Growth
Fastest-Growing Cities By Population Growth


More importantly, you were wrong. That's what really matters in all of this.

We're talking about big cities, man. Big cities.
Numbers don't lie, but they are easily manipulated.
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(06-30-2020 11:50 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 11:38 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 09:29 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
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(06-26-2020 05:41 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

Lost me there.

Ok, I'll entertain your request:

http://fortworthtexas.gov/news/2020/06/P...Estimates/

"Seattle has been the fastest growing large city (more than 500,000 population) since 2010, with 24% growth between 2010 and 2019, while Fort Worth and Austin are tied for second-fastest-growing large city."

I was way off-base, FTW is the 2nd fastest-growing city.

So they are second according to your article. And they don't even appear in the Quicken Loans article even though that article has 2 rankings:

Fastest-Growing Cities By Percentage Growth
Fastest-Growing Cities By Population Growth


More importantly, you were wrong. That's what really matters in all of this.

We're talking about big cities, man. Big cities.
Numbers don't lie, but they are easily manipulated.

Hmm. The Quicken Loans article lists Austin, Miami, Seattle and Denver in their Fastest-Growing Cities By Population Growth list. I could have sworn those were big cites. I agree that numbers don't lie, but some posters do...
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(06-30-2020 09:45 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 09:01 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 08:15 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 05:41 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 02:01 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Another advantage Dixie State has over Tarleton State is St. George, Utah's annual growth over Stephenville, Texas. In 1980, both communities were virtually the same size at approximately 11.5K. Now, St. George, Utah population is nearly 93K whereas Stephenville, TX population is just under 22K. St. George, UT grew nearly the whole population of Stephenville in the last 10 years.

Report: 3 Utah Areas Top Nation in Population Growth

From US News article...
"St. George ranked fifth in growth among all metro areas, growing 29% from 138,115 residents to 177,556."

Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

True or not I dont understand how Ft Worth is relevant to the main Tarleton campus as its an hour and 15 away. Whether or not Ft worth is the fastest growing city is irrelevant but just for fun heres a list I found. Im sure theres probably 20 different ones to choose from though.

https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/faste...ties-in-us

C'mon man, we already covered this. Let me break it down for you:
1. Ft. Worth campus is where the largest enrollment growth will be.
2. Ft. Worth students will still pay the new athletic fee
3. Larger enrollment + Increased athletic fee = more money.
4. More money equates to facility upgrades, projects, etc.

But you said Ft Worth will be a "full blown" campus. If thats the case they wont pay the athletic fee. If they're a satellite campus then they would.
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(06-30-2020 12:25 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 11:50 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 11:38 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 09:29 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 08:15 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

Lost me there.

Ok, I'll entertain your request:

http://fortworthtexas.gov/news/2020/06/P...Estimates/

"Seattle has been the fastest growing large city (more than 500,000 population) since 2010, with 24% growth between 2010 and 2019, while Fort Worth and Austin are tied for second-fastest-growing large city."

I was way off-base, FTW is the 2nd fastest-growing city.

So they are second according to your article. And they don't even appear in the Quicken Loans article even though that article has 2 rankings:

Fastest-Growing Cities By Percentage Growth
Fastest-Growing Cities By Population Growth


More importantly, you were wrong. That's what really matters in all of this.

We're talking about big cities, man. Big cities.
Numbers don't lie, but they are easily manipulated.

Hmm. The Quicken Loans article lists Austin, Miami, Seattle and Denver in their Fastest-Growing Cities By Population Growth list. I could have sworn those were big cites. I agree that numbers don't lie, but some posters do...

Dude calling me a liar is just pathetic. Don't be a schmuck.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...ing-cities

I can go on finding articles, to counter other articles, but its an undeniable fact that the City of Fort Worth, and the Great State of Texas for that matter, is experiencing tremendous growth. Tarleton will benefit from it. That's all that matters.
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(06-30-2020 12:29 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 09:45 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 09:01 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
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(06-26-2020 05:41 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

True or not I dont understand how Ft Worth is relevant to the main Tarleton campus as its an hour and 15 away. Whether or not Ft worth is the fastest growing city is irrelevant but just for fun heres a list I found. Im sure theres probably 20 different ones to choose from though.

https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/faste...ties-in-us

C'mon man, we already covered this. Let me break it down for you:
1. Ft. Worth campus is where the largest enrollment growth will be.
2. Ft. Worth students will still pay the new athletic fee
3. Larger enrollment + Increased athletic fee = more money.
4. More money equates to facility upgrades, projects, etc.

But you said Ft Worth will be a "full blown" campus. If thats the case they wont pay the athletic fee. If they're a satellite campus then they would.

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(06-30-2020 08:15 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 05:41 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(06-26-2020 02:01 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Another advantage Dixie State has over Tarleton State is St. George, Utah's annual growth over Stephenville, Texas. In 1980, both communities were virtually the same size at approximately 11.5K. Now, St. George, Utah population is nearly 93K whereas Stephenville, TX population is just under 22K. St. George, UT grew nearly the whole population of Stephenville in the last 10 years.

Report: 3 Utah Areas Top Nation in Population Growth

From US News article...
"St. George ranked fifth in growth among all metro areas, growing 29% from 138,115 residents to 177,556."

Yeah, well, Tarleton has an enrollment of 13,000+ vs Dixie's 11,000, and still one of the fastest growing universities in Texas. So that community growth isn't really equating to institutional growth. Plus Tarleton is in the midst of building a 2nd campus, not another little satellite location, but a full-blown campus in Fort Worth, the fastest growing city in America. Enrollment is projected to nearly double by 2030. Couple that with PUF access and our new athletic fee that is directly tied to enrollment, Tarleton is in a really good position to fund some major facility improvements over the next few years.

Please provide the article that states this. Simply stating it doesn't mean it's true. Pistol referenced a US News & World Report article (although he claims 93k residents and US News claims 177k). Then we'll engage.

The 93K is the population of St. George specifically. The 177K is the population of the St. George "metro".

I took the 93K numbers from this website...

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cit...opulation/

Also, as of last August (before the corona virus) St George ranked first in job growth over the last five years...

St. George ranks top in country for job growth

I also took Stephenville's population from the same site...

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cit...opulation/
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OMG get over it... stupid a$$ argument to have in the first place. WE NEED MORE FACILITY UPGRADES! That’s what this thread is about. You two argue DM-omg each other.

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(06-30-2020 06:46 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  OMG get over it... stupid a$$ argument to have in the first place. WE NEED MORE FACILITY UPGRADES! That’s what this thread is about. You two argue DM-omg each other.

SMH

It's almost the 4th, we need to see fireworks here.
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(07-01-2020 12:13 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 06:46 PM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  OMG get over it... stupid a$$ argument to have in the first place. WE NEED MORE FACILITY UPGRADES! That’s what this thread is about. You two argue DM-omg each other.

SMH

It's almost the 4th, we need to see fireworks here.

New gym floor is sweet!
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It looks very nice...


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(07-03-2020 12:15 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  It looks very nice...



Now imagine the upper deck bleachers gone and replaced with seats. And the solid west wall gone and the seats are in horseshoe.

Someday.....
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(07-03-2020 10:33 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 12:15 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  It looks very nice...



Now imagine the upper deck bleachers gone and replaced with seats. And the solid west wall gone and the seats are in horseshoe.

Someday.....

If Tarleton State ever adds seating on one baseline side of the gym, they need to move the court further away from the opposite side wall. The gym walls are too close to the court and gives players little room to decelerate on fast breaks layups and dunks. Even with the wall padding, it is an abrupt stop.
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(07-03-2020 10:33 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 12:15 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  It looks very nice...



Now imagine the upper deck bleachers gone and replaced with seats. And the solid west wall gone and the seats are in horseshoe.

Someday.....

If we could get rid of our wall, y'all can too!

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(07-03-2020 12:21 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 10:33 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 12:15 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  It looks very nice...



Now imagine the upper deck bleachers gone and replaced with seats. And the solid west wall gone and the seats are in horseshoe.

Someday.....

If Tarleton State ever adds seating on one baseline side of the gym, they need to move the court further away from the opposite side wall. The gym walls are too close to the court and gives players little room to decelerate on fast breaks layups and dunks. Even with the wall padding, it is an abrupt stop.

They'd have to add seating and opposite scoreboard baseline makes the most sense to me.

Floor looks good.
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(07-03-2020 12:21 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 10:33 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 12:15 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  It looks very nice...



Now imagine the upper deck bleachers gone and replaced with seats. And the solid west wall gone and the seats are in horseshoe.

Someday.....

If Tarleton State ever adds seating on one baseline side of the gym, they need to move the court further away from the opposite side wall. The gym walls are too close to the court and gives players little room to decelerate on fast breaks layups and dunks. Even with the wall padding, it is an abrupt stop.


It is further away than you think in its current configuration. The wall has never been an issue to player safety/stopping on fast breaks.
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