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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:39 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 07:42 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I'm rooting for a stronger OOC schedule. Our current AD seems to understand the need & is at least upgrading the OOC schedule slightly.

Hopefully we can continue to schedule mid-level P5's like Purdue & UCLA - and get home games from them. However, unless TV gets involved, we're going to find it harder and harder to schedule those types of teams to come here.

That's another reason I like playing Ole Miss, Miss St, Tennessee, Missouri & Ark - they will still play us here in the LB every now & then. They are the right "mid-level P5" types of teams that we are talking about playing, teams that will play at the LB, bring a lot of fans, and probably won't be double-digit favorites against the Tigers.

I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Quote:Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season.

Week 7
23 Memphis
25 Cincinnati

Week 13
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati

Week 14
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati

We actually went from #33 in votes after losing to Temple to catching and passing them from their peak at #17 BEFORE playing them. MORE made up nonsense.
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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:39 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 07:42 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I'm rooting for a stronger OOC schedule. Our current AD seems to understand the need & is at least upgrading the OOC schedule slightly.

Hopefully we can continue to schedule mid-level P5's like Purdue & UCLA - and get home games from them. However, unless TV gets involved, we're going to find it harder and harder to schedule those types of teams to come here.

That's another reason I like playing Ole Miss, Miss St, Tennessee, Missouri & Ark - they will still play us here in the LB every now & then. They are the right "mid-level P5" types of teams that we are talking about playing, teams that will play at the LB, bring a lot of fans, and probably won't be double-digit favorites against the Tigers.

I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.
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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:39 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 07:42 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I'm rooting for a stronger OOC schedule. Our current AD seems to understand the need & is at least upgrading the OOC schedule slightly.

Hopefully we can continue to schedule mid-level P5's like Purdue & UCLA - and get home games from them. However, unless TV gets involved, we're going to find it harder and harder to schedule those types of teams to come here.

That's another reason I like playing Ole Miss, Miss St, Tennessee, Missouri & Ark - they will still play us here in the LB every now & then. They are the right "mid-level P5" types of teams that we are talking about playing, teams that will play at the LB, bring a lot of fans, and probably won't be double-digit favorites against the Tigers.

I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Hurts us with the NCAA tourney as well. But hopefully, Penny is working to change that.
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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-02-2020 09:06 AM)dan o Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:39 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  Hopefully we can continue to schedule mid-level P5's like Purdue & UCLA - and get home games from them. However, unless TV gets involved, we're going to find it harder and harder to schedule those types of teams to come here.

That's another reason I like playing Ole Miss, Miss St, Tennessee, Missouri & Ark - they will still play us here in the LB every now & then. They are the right "mid-level P5" types of teams that we are talking about playing, teams that will play at the LB, bring a lot of fans, and probably won't be double-digit favorites against the Tigers.

I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Hurts us with the NCAA tourney as well. But hopefully, Penny is working to change that.

And our AD seems to be trying to remedy the weak OOC scheduling in FB too. Hope it is a trend across both sports.
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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-02-2020 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 09:06 AM)dan o Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Hurts us with the NCAA tourney as well. But hopefully, Penny is working to change that.

And our AD seems to be trying to remedy the weak OOC scheduling in FB too. Hope it is a trend across both sports.

Me too, but I'm skeptical
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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:39 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 07:42 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I'm rooting for a stronger OOC schedule. Our current AD seems to understand the need & is at least upgrading the OOC schedule slightly.

Hopefully we can continue to schedule mid-level P5's like Purdue & UCLA - and get home games from them. However, unless TV gets involved, we're going to find it harder and harder to schedule those types of teams to come here.

That's another reason I like playing Ole Miss, Miss St, Tennessee, Missouri & Ark - they will still play us here in the LB every now & then. They are the right "mid-level P5" types of teams that we are talking about playing, teams that will play at the LB, bring a lot of fans, and probably won't be double-digit favorites against the Tigers.

I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Quote:I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats
Quote:I'm not going to spend a single second looking at stats. I will lie and make everything up.
FIFY

Quote:you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not
Your exact point, not sidetracked. You said the AAC was behind Boise with the same number of losses, that was a lie. You said we were behind Cincinnati, that was a lie.

Quote:the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6.
Just dumb on every level. We played 4 games against teams that ended up ranked last year. Boise played ZERO. Clemson played ZERO. We made the NY6 game last year. What would have happened IF we would have played at Ohio State last year like Cincinnati did? No NY6.

Boise hasn't played in the NY6 in 5 years and didn't play in it last year even though they only had 1 loss going into bowl season. They hadn't had a 1 loss season prior to that since 2011. Everything you say is the opposite of the truth.

Quote:The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control.
Another dumb point. Our AD can force teams to play us?

Quote:And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference.

You are so thick and dishonest. You keep repeating lies constantly. It was explained to you that you were lying when you said this.

NO LOSSES
Preseason
17 UCF
33 Boise

Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

Week 5
16 Boise
22 UCF (UCF loses)

1 LOSS EACH
Week 9
16 SMU (0 losses)
18 Cincinnati
22 Boise

Week 10
15 SMU (0 losses)
17 Cincinnati
21 Boise
24 Memphis
25 San Diego State

Week 11
20 Cincinnati
21 Memphis
22 Boise
24 Navy
25 SMU

Week 12
17 Cincy
18 Memphis
21 Boise
23 Navy

Week 13
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise
25 SMU

Week 14
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise

Week 15
17 Memphis
19 Boise
20 Cincinnati
24 Navy

Week 16
17 Memphis
19 Boise
21 Cincinnati
23 Navy

Memphis, UCF, and Cincinnati ALL AHEAD of Boise with the same number of losses. Navy and SMU would have been also, but the conference cannibalized itself.

Quote:based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite
Are you drunk? Boise DID go undefeated in conference last year. They were 8-0.

Quote:Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue
It's not the issue? There is no difference between a #4 power ranking and a #7 power ranking? There is no difference between 4 schools ending the season ranked an 1 school ending the season ranked? The AAC was closer to #3 than the MWC was to #6. No difference?

Quote:it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference.
1. MWC Revenue Ranking. 1. Air Force, 2. San Diego State, 3. Colorado State, 4. Fresno State, 5. UNLV, 6. Boise
2. Voter perceptions, with equal losses Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati ahead of Boise
3. Boise was undefeated in conference play

Quote:Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU

AFTER Win Against FSU
Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

UCF beat Florida A&M in week 1.

You lied and made statements that were untrue 12 times. I am confident that that is the world record for a single message board post. You didn't say anything factual. Not a single thing.
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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-02-2020 09:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:39 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  Hopefully we can continue to schedule mid-level P5's like Purdue & UCLA - and get home games from them. However, unless TV gets involved, we're going to find it harder and harder to schedule those types of teams to come here.

That's another reason I like playing Ole Miss, Miss St, Tennessee, Missouri & Ark - they will still play us here in the LB every now & then. They are the right "mid-level P5" types of teams that we are talking about playing, teams that will play at the LB, bring a lot of fans, and probably won't be double-digit favorites against the Tigers.

I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Quote:I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats
Quote:I'm not going to spend a single second looking at stats. I will lie and make everything up.
FIFY

Quote:you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not
Your exact point, not sidetracked. You said the AAC was behind Boise with the same number of losses, that was a lie. You said we were behind Cincinnati, that was a lie.

Quote:the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6.
Just dumb on every level. We played 4 games against teams that ended up ranked last year. Boise played ZERO. Clemson played ZERO. We made the NY6 game last year. What would have happened IF we would have played at Ohio State last year like Cincinnati did? No NY6.

Boise hasn't played in the NY6 in 5 years and didn't play in it last year even though they only had 1 loss going into bowl season. They hadn't had a 1 loss season prior to that since 2011. Everything you say is the opposite of the truth.

Quote:The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control.
Another dumb point. Our AD can force teams to play us?

Quote:And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference.

You are so thick and dishonest. You keep repeating lies constantly. It was explained to you that you were lying when you said this.

NO LOSSES
Preseason
17 UCF
33 Boise

Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

Week 5
16 Boise
22 UCF (UCF loses)

1 LOSS EACH
Week 9
16 SMU (0 losses)
18 Cincinnati
22 Boise

Week 10
15 SMU (0 losses)
17 Cincinnati
21 Boise
24 Memphis
25 San Diego State

Week 11
20 Cincinnati
21 Memphis
22 Boise
24 Navy
25 SMU

Week 12
17 Cincy
18 Memphis
21 Boise
23 Navy

Week 13
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise
25 SMU

Week 14
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise

Week 15
17 Memphis
19 Boise
20 Cincinnati
24 Navy

Week 16
17 Memphis
19 Boise
21 Cincinnati
23 Navy

Memphis, UCF, and Cincinnati ALL AHEAD of Boise with the same number of losses. Navy and SMU would have been also, but the conference cannibalized itself.

Quote:based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite
Are you drunk? Boise DID go undefeated in conference last year. They were 8-0.

Quote:Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue
It's not the issue? There is no difference between a #4 power ranking and a #7 power ranking? There is no difference between 4 schools ending the season ranked an 1 school ending the season ranked? The AAC was closer to #3 than the MWC was to #6. No difference?

Quote:it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference.
1. MWC Revenue Ranking. 1. Air Force, 2. San Diego State, 3. Colorado State, 4. Fresno State, 5. UNLV, 6. Boise
2. Voter perceptions, with equal losses Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati ahead of Boise
3. Boise was undefeated in conference play

Quote:Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU

AFTER Win Against FSU
Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

UCF beat Florida A&M in week 1.

You lied and made statements that were untrue 12 times. I am confident that that is the world record for a single message board post. You didn't say anything factual. Not a single thing.

Do you really think people are reading your bull****?
07-03-2020 01:56 PM
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RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-03-2020 01:56 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 09:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:55 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I agree, but probably wouldn't include UTK in that group that will play us occasionally, since they have dodged us repeatedly. Also I wouldn't mind an occasional buy game against a Clemson, AL, UGA level program if they won't play us H&H. We'd make a great payday, we'd get natl TV, and even a one sided loss probably wouldn't hurt much. Cincy played Ohio St last season & got hammered but were still ranked above us until we beat them in the reg season. And just think of the recognition if we beat them (a Clemson type) or played them tough.

Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Quote:I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats
Quote:I'm not going to spend a single second looking at stats. I will lie and make everything up.
FIFY

Quote:you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not
Your exact point, not sidetracked. You said the AAC was behind Boise with the same number of losses, that was a lie. You said we were behind Cincinnati, that was a lie.

Quote:the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6.
Just dumb on every level. We played 4 games against teams that ended up ranked last year. Boise played ZERO. Clemson played ZERO. We made the NY6 game last year. What would have happened IF we would have played at Ohio State last year like Cincinnati did? No NY6.

Boise hasn't played in the NY6 in 5 years and didn't play in it last year even though they only had 1 loss going into bowl season. They hadn't had a 1 loss season prior to that since 2011. Everything you say is the opposite of the truth.

Quote:The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control.
Another dumb point. Our AD can force teams to play us?

Quote:And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference.

You are so thick and dishonest. You keep repeating lies constantly. It was explained to you that you were lying when you said this.

NO LOSSES
Preseason
17 UCF
33 Boise

Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

Week 5
16 Boise
22 UCF (UCF loses)

1 LOSS EACH
Week 9
16 SMU (0 losses)
18 Cincinnati
22 Boise

Week 10
15 SMU (0 losses)
17 Cincinnati
21 Boise
24 Memphis
25 San Diego State

Week 11
20 Cincinnati
21 Memphis
22 Boise
24 Navy
25 SMU

Week 12
17 Cincy
18 Memphis
21 Boise
23 Navy

Week 13
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise
25 SMU

Week 14
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise

Week 15
17 Memphis
19 Boise
20 Cincinnati
24 Navy

Week 16
17 Memphis
19 Boise
21 Cincinnati
23 Navy

Memphis, UCF, and Cincinnati ALL AHEAD of Boise with the same number of losses. Navy and SMU would have been also, but the conference cannibalized itself.

Quote:based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite
Are you drunk? Boise DID go undefeated in conference last year. They were 8-0.

Quote:Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue
It's not the issue? There is no difference between a #4 power ranking and a #7 power ranking? There is no difference between 4 schools ending the season ranked an 1 school ending the season ranked? The AAC was closer to #3 than the MWC was to #6. No difference?

Quote:it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference.
1. MWC Revenue Ranking. 1. Air Force, 2. San Diego State, 3. Colorado State, 4. Fresno State, 5. UNLV, 6. Boise
2. Voter perceptions, with equal losses Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati ahead of Boise
3. Boise was undefeated in conference play

Quote:Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU

AFTER Win Against FSU
Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

UCF beat Florida A&M in week 1.

You lied and made statements that were untrue 12 times. I am confident that that is the world record for a single message board post. You didn't say anything factual. Not a single thing.

Do you really think people are reading your bull****?

I haven't embarrassed you in a couple of days. Start a topic, I'm bored.
07-04-2020 02:47 PM
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Post: #110
RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-04-2020 02:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 01:56 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 09:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 11:31 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Okay, I should have read this before I said I was out. Because you KEEP on saying things that aren't accurate.

Cincy was behind us in the CFP rankings last year in the 2 weeks PRIOR to us playing them. We were neck and neck, sure. But we were ahead. So their loss to Ohio State was more damaging than our loss to Temple. You shouldn't have to misrepresent to try to make your point.

Okay, now I'm really out of this back and forth.

You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Quote:I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats
Quote:I'm not going to spend a single second looking at stats. I will lie and make everything up.
FIFY

Quote:you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not
Your exact point, not sidetracked. You said the AAC was behind Boise with the same number of losses, that was a lie. You said we were behind Cincinnati, that was a lie.

Quote:the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6.
Just dumb on every level. We played 4 games against teams that ended up ranked last year. Boise played ZERO. Clemson played ZERO. We made the NY6 game last year. What would have happened IF we would have played at Ohio State last year like Cincinnati did? No NY6.

Boise hasn't played in the NY6 in 5 years and didn't play in it last year even though they only had 1 loss going into bowl season. They hadn't had a 1 loss season prior to that since 2011. Everything you say is the opposite of the truth.

Quote:The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control.
Another dumb point. Our AD can force teams to play us?

Quote:And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference.

You are so thick and dishonest. You keep repeating lies constantly. It was explained to you that you were lying when you said this.

NO LOSSES
Preseason
17 UCF
33 Boise

Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

Week 5
16 Boise
22 UCF (UCF loses)

1 LOSS EACH
Week 9
16 SMU (0 losses)
18 Cincinnati
22 Boise

Week 10
15 SMU (0 losses)
17 Cincinnati
21 Boise
24 Memphis
25 San Diego State

Week 11
20 Cincinnati
21 Memphis
22 Boise
24 Navy
25 SMU

Week 12
17 Cincy
18 Memphis
21 Boise
23 Navy

Week 13
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise
25 SMU

Week 14
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise

Week 15
17 Memphis
19 Boise
20 Cincinnati
24 Navy

Week 16
17 Memphis
19 Boise
21 Cincinnati
23 Navy

Memphis, UCF, and Cincinnati ALL AHEAD of Boise with the same number of losses. Navy and SMU would have been also, but the conference cannibalized itself.

Quote:based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite
Are you drunk? Boise DID go undefeated in conference last year. They were 8-0.

Quote:Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue
It's not the issue? There is no difference between a #4 power ranking and a #7 power ranking? There is no difference between 4 schools ending the season ranked an 1 school ending the season ranked? The AAC was closer to #3 than the MWC was to #6. No difference?

Quote:it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference.
1. MWC Revenue Ranking. 1. Air Force, 2. San Diego State, 3. Colorado State, 4. Fresno State, 5. UNLV, 6. Boise
2. Voter perceptions, with equal losses Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati ahead of Boise
3. Boise was undefeated in conference play

Quote:Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU

AFTER Win Against FSU
Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

UCF beat Florida A&M in week 1.

You lied and made statements that were untrue 12 times. I am confident that that is the world record for a single message board post. You didn't say anything factual. Not a single thing.

Do you really think people are reading your bull****?

I haven't embarrassed you in a couple of days. Start a topic, I'm bored.

You have never embarrassed me. Maybe in your dreams but never in real life.
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Post: #111
RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-04-2020 04:34 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-04-2020 02:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 01:56 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 09:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 08:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  You can't see or refuse to see the forest for the trees. I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats & you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not but it is simply a deflection from facing the consequences of a weak OOC schedule - the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6. Try to think critically. The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control. We leave revenue on the table by playing low level G5s. And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference. Bottom line, based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite - and that because of our weak OOC schedule & one loss in-conference. We should be scheduling to prevent that & also to increase revenue. Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue, it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference. Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU - and that is why we should schedule up OOC.

Quote:I'm not going to spend all day looking up stats
Quote:I'm not going to spend a single second looking at stats. I will lie and make everything up.
FIFY

Quote:you can get sidetracked on whether we were a few points behind Cincy or not
Your exact point, not sidetracked. You said the AAC was behind Boise with the same number of losses, that was a lie. You said we were behind Cincinnati, that was a lie.

Quote:the practice costs us revenue & will more years than not it will cost us the invite to the NY6.
Just dumb on every level. We played 4 games against teams that ended up ranked last year. Boise played ZERO. Clemson played ZERO. We made the NY6 game last year. What would have happened IF we would have played at Ohio State last year like Cincinnati did? No NY6.

Boise hasn't played in the NY6 in 5 years and didn't play in it last year even though they only had 1 loss going into bowl season. They hadn't had a 1 loss season prior to that since 2011. Everything you say is the opposite of the truth.

Quote:The point is OOC scheduling, the only scheduling our AD can control.
Another dumb point. Our AD can force teams to play us?

Quote:And specifically, last season, because of their win over FSU even though FSU turned out to be very mediocre at best, Boise had the edge for the NY6 bowl until they lost in conference.

You are so thick and dishonest. You keep repeating lies constantly. It was explained to you that you were lying when you said this.

NO LOSSES
Preseason
17 UCF
33 Boise

Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

Week 5
16 Boise
22 UCF (UCF loses)

1 LOSS EACH
Week 9
16 SMU (0 losses)
18 Cincinnati
22 Boise

Week 10
15 SMU (0 losses)
17 Cincinnati
21 Boise
24 Memphis
25 San Diego State

Week 11
20 Cincinnati
21 Memphis
22 Boise
24 Navy
25 SMU

Week 12
17 Cincy
18 Memphis
21 Boise
23 Navy

Week 13
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise
25 SMU

Week 14
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise

Week 15
17 Memphis
19 Boise
20 Cincinnati
24 Navy

Week 16
17 Memphis
19 Boise
21 Cincinnati
23 Navy

Memphis, UCF, and Cincinnati ALL AHEAD of Boise with the same number of losses. Navy and SMU would have been also, but the conference cannibalized itself.

Quote:based on the season type we had last year, as great as it was for us, had Boise gone undefeated in-conference, Boise would have received the NY6 invite
Are you drunk? Boise DID go undefeated in conference last year. They were 8-0.

Quote:Quoting total conference strength, whether we had more schools ranked than the MWC is not the issue
It's not the issue? There is no difference between a #4 power ranking and a #7 power ranking? There is no difference between 4 schools ending the season ranked an 1 school ending the season ranked? The AAC was closer to #3 than the MWC was to #6. No difference?

Quote:it's revenue & voter perceptions that count. And those voter perceptions were that Boise would get the NY6 until Boise lost in-conference.
1. MWC Revenue Ranking. 1. Air Force, 2. San Diego State, 3. Colorado State, 4. Fresno State, 5. UNLV, 6. Boise
2. Voter perceptions, with equal losses Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati ahead of Boise
3. Boise was undefeated in conference play

Quote:Boise was in that position due to their early season win over FSU

AFTER Win Against FSU
Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

UCF beat Florida A&M in week 1.

You lied and made statements that were untrue 12 times. I am confident that that is the world record for a single message board post. You didn't say anything factual. Not a single thing.

Do you really think people are reading your bull****?

I haven't embarrassed you in a couple of days. Start a topic, I'm bored.

You have never embarrassed me. Maybe in your dreams but never in real life.

So then you're the type of person who wouldn't be embarrassed standing at the 50 yard line at the LB when it is packed, with your pants rolled down to your ankles.

Good for you.
07-04-2020 05:07 PM
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Post: #112
RE: Tigers home football schedule
(07-04-2020 05:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-04-2020 04:34 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-04-2020 02:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(07-03-2020 01:56 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(07-02-2020 09:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  FIFY

Your exact point, not sidetracked. You said the AAC was behind Boise with the same number of losses, that was a lie. You said we were behind Cincinnati, that was a lie.

Just dumb on every level. We played 4 games against teams that ended up ranked last year. Boise played ZERO. Clemson played ZERO. We made the NY6 game last year. What would have happened IF we would have played at Ohio State last year like Cincinnati did? No NY6.

Boise hasn't played in the NY6 in 5 years and didn't play in it last year even though they only had 1 loss going into bowl season. They hadn't had a 1 loss season prior to that since 2011. Everything you say is the opposite of the truth.

Another dumb point. Our AD can force teams to play us?


You are so thick and dishonest. You keep repeating lies constantly. It was explained to you that you were lying when you said this.

NO LOSSES
Preseason
17 UCF
33 Boise

Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

Week 5
16 Boise
22 UCF (UCF loses)

1 LOSS EACH
Week 9
16 SMU (0 losses)
18 Cincinnati
22 Boise

Week 10
15 SMU (0 losses)
17 Cincinnati
21 Boise
24 Memphis
25 San Diego State

Week 11
20 Cincinnati
21 Memphis
22 Boise
24 Navy
25 SMU

Week 12
17 Cincy
18 Memphis
21 Boise
23 Navy

Week 13
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise
25 SMU

Week 14
18 Memphis
19 Cincinnati
20 Boise

Week 15
17 Memphis
19 Boise
20 Cincinnati
24 Navy

Week 16
17 Memphis
19 Boise
21 Cincinnati
23 Navy

Memphis, UCF, and Cincinnati ALL AHEAD of Boise with the same number of losses. Navy and SMU would have been also, but the conference cannibalized itself.

Are you drunk? Boise DID go undefeated in conference last year. They were 8-0.

It's not the issue? There is no difference between a #4 power ranking and a #7 power ranking? There is no difference between 4 schools ending the season ranked an 1 school ending the season ranked? The AAC was closer to #3 than the MWC was to #6. No difference?

1. MWC Revenue Ranking. 1. Air Force, 2. San Diego State, 3. Colorado State, 4. Fresno State, 5. UNLV, 6. Boise
2. Voter perceptions, with equal losses Memphis, UCF, Cincinnati ahead of Boise
3. Boise was undefeated in conference play


AFTER Win Against FSU
Week 2
18 UCF
24 Boise

Week 3
17 UCF
22 Boise

Week 4
15 UCF
20 Boise

UCF beat Florida A&M in week 1.

You lied and made statements that were untrue 12 times. I am confident that that is the world record for a single message board post. You didn't say anything factual. Not a single thing.

Do you really think people are reading your bull****?

I haven't embarrassed you in a couple of days. Start a topic, I'm bored.

You have never embarrassed me. Maybe in your dreams but never in real life.

So then you're the type of person who wouldn't be embarrassed standing at the 50 yard line at the LB when it is packed, with your pants rolled down to your ankles.

Good for you.

03-lmfao

Yep, that would be me if I hand't quit my tickets.
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