It ridiculous that UVA cant drive three hours down the road but can fly to Florida etc. This may be the final nail in the coffin before the P5 split off. It’s like a trial run they get to blame on the virus.
And apparently the Big 10 at least, isn't paying buyouts for the road games they don't play. If the ACC follows suit, ODU could lose the ticket revenue from 40,000 people, and our two best home games. That just seems wrong. If the whole season is canceled, I can understand not paying, but if a team picks and chooses which games it wants to play, its no longer about the virus and health, but about conference perception and money. The ACC should either cancel their entire season, or pay the buy out fees if they don't want to play OOC games, but do want to play conference games. I would think a lawsuit could be in order if they pick and choose.
(This post was last modified: 07-10-2020 08:23 AM by monarx.)
(07-10-2020 07:26 AM)monarx Wrote: It ridiculous that UVA cant drive three hours down the road but can fly to Florida etc. This may be the final nail in the coffin before the P5 split off. It’s like a trial run they get to blame on the virus.
And apparently the Big 10 at least, isn't paying buyouts for the road games they don't play. If the ACC follows suit, ODU could lose the ticket revenue from 40,000 people, and our two best home games. That just seems wrong. If the whole season is canceled, I can understand not paying, but if a team picks and chooses which games it wants to play, its no longer about the virus and health, but about conference perception and money. The ACC should either cancel their entire season, or pay the buy out fees if they don't want to play OOC games, but do want to play conference games. I would think a lawsuit could be in order if they pick and choose.
I guess it would depend on the language in the contracts as to whether schools could choose to not payout on cancellations. Ideally everything would roll back a year, presuming that everyone in FBS cancels non-con or all football games this year, but again, not sure how well that works with contract language. It's definitely a tricky and unprecedented path we're on.
(07-10-2020 07:26 AM)monarx Wrote: It ridiculous that UVA cant drive three hours down the road but can fly to Florida etc. This may be the final nail in the coffin before the P5 split off. It’s like a trial run they get to blame on the virus.
And apparently the Big 10 at least, isn't paying buyouts for the road games they don't play. If the ACC follows suit, ODU could lose the ticket revenue from 40,000 people, and our two best home games. That just seems wrong. If the whole season is canceled, I can understand not paying, but if a team picks and chooses which games it wants to play, its no longer about the virus and health, but about conference perception and money. The ACC should either cancel their entire season, or pay the buy out fees if they don't want to play OOC games, but do want to play conference games. I would think a lawsuit could be in order if they pick and choose.
I guess it would depend on the language in the contracts as to whether schools could choose to not payout on cancellations. Ideally everything would roll back a year, presuming that everyone in FBS cancels non-con or all football games this year, but again, not sure how well that works with contract language. It's definitely a tricky and unprecedented path we're on.
If it's anything like this, no one is getting paid.
(07-10-2020 07:26 AM)monarx Wrote: It ridiculous that UVA cant drive three hours down the road but can fly to Florida etc. This may be the final nail in the coffin before the P5 split off. It’s like a trial run they get to blame on the virus.
And apparently the Big 10 at least, isn't paying buyouts for the road games they don't play. If the ACC follows suit, ODU could lose the ticket revenue from 40,000 people, and our two best home games. That just seems wrong. If the whole season is canceled, I can understand not paying, but if a team picks and chooses which games it wants to play, its no longer about the virus and health, but about conference perception and money. The ACC should either cancel their entire season, or pay the buy out fees if they don't want to play OOC games, but do want to play conference games. I would think a lawsuit could be in order if they pick and choose.
I guess it would depend on the language in the contracts as to whether schools could choose to not payout on cancellations. Ideally everything would roll back a year, presuming that everyone in FBS cancels non-con or all football games this year, but again, not sure how well that works with contract language. It's definitely a tricky and unprecedented path we're on.
If it's anything like this, no one is getting paid.
I agree... IF the whole season is canceled. I would think if a team plays part of a season, then the argument that its "beyond their control" could be proven false. Not sure if ODU would try to sue UVA or WF, but if they did, I wouldnt be surprised if the won... assuming they were treated differently than the ACC teams on the schedule and those games are played.
(This post was last modified: 07-10-2020 03:11 PM by monarx.)
(07-10-2020 07:26 AM)monarx Wrote: It ridiculous that UVA cant drive three hours down the road but can fly to Florida etc. This may be the final nail in the coffin before the P5 split off. It’s like a trial run they get to blame on the virus.
And apparently the Big 10 at least, isn't paying buyouts for the road games they don't play. If the ACC follows suit, ODU could lose the ticket revenue from 40,000 people, and our two best home games. That just seems wrong. If the whole season is canceled, I can understand not paying, but if a team picks and chooses which games it wants to play, its no longer about the virus and health, but about conference perception and money. The ACC should either cancel their entire season, or pay the buy out fees if they don't want to play OOC games, but do want to play conference games. I would think a lawsuit could be in order if they pick and choose.
I guess it would depend on the language in the contracts as to whether schools could choose to not payout on cancellations. Ideally everything would roll back a year, presuming that everyone in FBS cancels non-con or all football games this year, but again, not sure how well that works with contract language. It's definitely a tricky and unprecedented path we're on.
If it's anything like this, no one is getting paid.
I agree... IF the whole season is canceled. I would think if a team plays part of a season, then the argument that its "beyond their control" could be proven false. Not sure if ODU would try to sue UVA or WF, but if they did, I wouldnt be surprised if the won... assuming they were treated differently than the ACC teams on the schedule and those games are played.
If the Big 10 is stipulating that none of its members can play OOC, then Purdue could say that it's a circumstance out of their reasonable control (it's not reasonable to defy your conference officials). If Purdue were cancelling on its own and then relying on force majeure to get out of the buyout, that would be a much harder lift. But that's not what's happening.
(07-10-2020 07:26 AM)monarx Wrote: It ridiculous that UVA cant drive three hours down the road but can fly to Florida etc. This may be the final nail in the coffin before the P5 split off. It’s like a trial run they get to blame on the virus.
And apparently the Big 10 at least, isn't paying buyouts for the road games they don't play. If the ACC follows suit, ODU could lose the ticket revenue from 40,000 people, and our two best home games. That just seems wrong. If the whole season is canceled, I can understand not paying, but if a team picks and chooses which games it wants to play, its no longer about the virus and health, but about conference perception and money. The ACC should either cancel their entire season, or pay the buy out fees if they don't want to play OOC games, but do want to play conference games. I would think a lawsuit could be in order if they pick and choose.
I guess it would depend on the language in the contracts as to whether schools could choose to not payout on cancellations. Ideally everything would roll back a year, presuming that everyone in FBS cancels non-con or all football games this year, but again, not sure how well that works with contract language. It's definitely a tricky and unprecedented path we're on.
If it's anything like this, no one is getting paid.
I agree... IF the whole season is canceled. I would think if a team plays part of a season, then the argument that its "beyond their control" could be proven false. Not sure if ODU would try to sue UVA or WF, but if they did, I wouldnt be surprised if the won... assuming they were treated differently than the ACC teams on the schedule and those games are played.
Just playing devil's advocate because I really don't know anything here, but could one argue that testing protocols in another conference were beyond their control?
Not sure I understand how a conference has the power to tell its members they cannot play out of conference games. How did they amass that power and name the morons that voted to give it to them?
(07-10-2020 07:26 AM)monarx Wrote: It ridiculous that UVA cant drive three hours down the road but can fly to Florida etc. This may be the final nail in the coffin before the P5 split off. It’s like a trial run they get to blame on the virus.
And apparently the Big 10 at least, isn't paying buyouts for the road games they don't play. If the ACC follows suit, ODU could lose the ticket revenue from 40,000 people, and our two best home games. That just seems wrong. If the whole season is canceled, I can understand not paying, but if a team picks and chooses which games it wants to play, its no longer about the virus and health, but about conference perception and money. The ACC should either cancel their entire season, or pay the buy out fees if they don't want to play OOC games, but do want to play conference games. I would think a lawsuit could be in order if they pick and choose.
I guess it would depend on the language in the contracts as to whether schools could choose to not payout on cancellations. Ideally everything would roll back a year, presuming that everyone in FBS cancels non-con or all football games this year, but again, not sure how well that works with contract language. It's definitely a tricky and unprecedented path we're on.
If it's anything like this, no one is getting paid.
I agree... IF the whole season is canceled. I would think if a team plays part of a season, then the argument that its "beyond their control" could be proven false. Not sure if ODU would try to sue UVA or WF, but if they did, I wouldnt be surprised if the won... assuming they were treated differently than the ACC teams on the schedule and those games are played.
If ODU sued they would struggle to get another P5 school to play them again.
CUSA could mandate better testing protocols (ie match those of P5 conferences), which could help ODU’s situation
(07-10-2020 05:34 PM)EverRespect Wrote: Not sure I understand how a conference has the power to tell its members they cannot play out of conference games. How did they amass that power and name the morons that voted to give it to them?
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Conference officials can't unilaterally do whatever they want.
As with most (all?) conferences, the schools probably agreed/voted for it together.
edit: Major headlines say "Big 10 votes to play in-conference games only"; "ACC votes to delay season"; "Ivy League votes to cancel sports until 2021"
But how is that within scope? What an individual school does outside the conference framework can be negated by a conference vote? That doesn't make sense.
NCAA just announced that if the season is played, FBS teams can scheduled 2 FCS games that will count toward bowl eligibility. Will help filling out a schedule for G5 teams who lost P5 games.
(07-15-2020 04:55 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: NCAA just announced that if the season is played, FBS teams can scheduled 2 FCS games that will count toward bowl eligibility. Will help filling out a schedule for G5 teams who lost P5 games.
If any FCS teams play. I think it’s even more likely they all close shop than FBS. But I really don’t think anyone will play this season anymore.
(07-15-2020 04:55 PM)CalODUFan Wrote: NCAA just announced that if the season is played, FBS teams can scheduled 2 FCS games that will count toward bowl eligibility. Will help filling out a schedule for G5 teams who lost P5 games.
If any FCS teams play. I think it’s even more likely they all close shop than FBS. But I really don’t think anyone will play this season anymore.
Agreed. They have less financial incentive to play a full season. Plus I'm guessing a lot of G5 schools aren't excited about trading a buy game for having to buy an FCS school, even if they do play. Which they probably won't.
Tear the bandaid off. College (and most if not all high school) football should be in stasis for 2020. We'll try this again in '21.
The only bright side is IF we play, we trade UVA and WF for two FCS patsies, hopefully win 3 CUSA games and go to a bowl. That would be ridiculous, but this scenario actually improves our bowl chances.
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