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(07-31-2020 06:57 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 06:51 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 06:31 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 05:38 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 04:37 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  This has gotten silly now.
NONE of the G5 has made an announcement. CUSA "leadership" can not and will not make any official statement without authorization from the Presidents of the member institutions. CUSA "leadership" is not the entity that will make the "final" decision. It will be made by the council of Presidents of the member institutions.

Blame the member Universities of ALL of the G5 conferences.

Chester, I’m not going to debate semantics. The collective CUSA leadership is inept. I expect more from “leadership” - and the hallmark of poor leadership is silence combined with herd mentality/decision-making. It doesn’t matter to me that no G5 member has made an announcement. We should set the standard, not follow the herd.

Semantics?? uhh sure.

Here's how this will work. The Council of Presidents of CUSA will meet (as far as I know, they have not yet formerly met and likely won't until the entire P5 picture is clear) They will decide policy, which will then be turned over to Conference "leadership" to implement. Conference leadership (Judy et al) will then work out the logistics of scheduling and other specifics. At that point an announcement would be forthcoming. It would not be appropriate to make any statements prior to the completion of above process

The primary reason that no G5, including CUSA, has made an announcement is because they are waiting for the P5s to finalize their policies and schedules. That is both logical and prudent, as most every G5 has at least one P5 on their schedule.

The Big XII likely will not make a formal announcement until at least next week because their Presidents have not yet met. I believe they are scheduled for next week.

So far, CUSA, and the other G5s have acted properly.

Chester, we disagree on how leadership acts in this situation. We’re five weeks out and I expect more than silence. We are not going to agree, so let’s have more of that coffee you like so much07-coffee3

Maybe you should contact the Presidents Council, which of course includes President Broderick, and let them know of your concerns and expectations. I am sure that when they discover it is you who has the concerns, they will react immediately. 05-stirthepot

Keep pointing to mindless protocol, which has equated to rudderless leadership thus far. Apparently, it meets your standard - but not mine - not by a long shot07-coffee305-stirthepot03-nutkick
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(07-31-2020 03:28 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 01:05 PM)monarx Wrote:  https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/colum...story.html

Maybe we will play after all.

When is training camp scheduled to open now?

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I'm probably done donating for the foreseeable future if ODU plays the season and puts the community at risk.

And while I'm no big-time donor, I'll gladly give more during this difficult time if ODU does what's right.
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(07-31-2020 04:12 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  The reality is the governor is the one who is truly holding the cards. Phase 3 only allows gatherings up to 250 people. Last time I checked, SB is a little over the limit.

I totally forgot about this rule and thanks for pointing it out. The governor recently has also made it more strict for Hampton Roads reducing size of gatherings to only 50 people as of July 31. Does that effectively prevent even the teams from playing with empty stands?
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(08-01-2020 09:10 AM)Sithlord Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 04:12 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  The reality is the governor is the one who is truly holding the cards. Phase 3 only allows gatherings up to 250 people. Last time I checked, SB is a little over the limit.

I totally forgot about this rule and thanks for pointing it out. The governor recently has also made it more strict for Hampton Roads reducing size of gatherings to only 50 people as of July 31. Does that effectively prevent even the teams from playing with empty stands?
As soon as UVA and VT complain he will exempt college football games. At least for P5 because they they are clearly less risky that those pesky G5s.
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(08-01-2020 12:33 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
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(07-31-2020 04:12 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  The reality is the governor is the one who is truly holding the cards. Phase 3 only allows gatherings up to 250 people. Last time I checked, SB is a little over the limit.

I totally forgot about this rule and thanks for pointing it out. The governor recently has also made it more strict for Hampton Roads reducing size of gatherings to only 50 people as of July 31. Does that effectively prevent even the teams from playing with empty stands?
As soon as UVA and VT complain he will exempt college football games. At least for P5 because they they are clearly less risky that those pesky G5s.

Or he could just ban gatherings in Hampton Roads. Blacksburg, Charlottesville, even Harrisonburg... no problem. That’s usually how things work in the state government.
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(08-01-2020 09:10 AM)Sithlord Wrote:  
(07-31-2020 04:12 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  The reality is the governor is the one who is truly holding the cards. Phase 3 only allows gatherings up to 250 people. Last time I checked, SB is a little over the limit.

I totally forgot about this rule and thanks for pointing it out. The governor recently has also made it more strict for Hampton Roads reducing size of gatherings to only 50 people as of July 31. Does that effectively prevent even the teams from playing with empty stands?

Yes, it does. And anyone who thinks the governor is going to make an exception for the ACC, CUSA, CAA, MEAC, or Big South (plus any other conference in the Commonwealth I missed) is fooling themselves. Dollars to donuts.
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But 78’ tell us more about the protocol07-coffee305-stirthepot03-nutkick
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A group of PAC 12 players are organizing to opt out of playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ice-safety

There are at least 3 PAC 12 schools that are online only this fall and others that have hybrid plans. At those same schools the football players will be required to return to campus. I'm sure there are players in other leagues that are individually planning to opt out but this appears to be an organized effort.
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(08-01-2020 10:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  But 78’ tell us more about the protocol07-coffee305-stirthepot03-nutkick

What are you talking about? Protocol for what? If you are referring to your "mindless Protocol" stated above as to the sequence of events that determines the policies of CUSA, then you are also referring to every Conference, both G5 and P5. They all do it almost exactly the same way. 01-wingedeagle

If you are addressing the recent executive mandate (although by definition not a protocol) by the Governor of Virginia
Quote:gatherings of more than 50 people will be prohibited.
then yes, I would say that effectively eliminates a football game in the Hampton Roads area, as of the time of this writing.
However, that proscription could be amended or rescinded at any time, for any number of reasons or no reason at all, at the the pleasure of the Governor.

As to how it would affect a given conference, (CUSA, NJAC, MEC, Big South, MEAC, and the CAA if Williamburg is included, are basically the ones represented in Hampton Roads) that is actually pretty simple.
If the mandate still exists at or close to the time of a scheduled game, that contest would either be cancelled, postponed, moved to another location.

With no fans, and therefore few support staff, no vendors, limited security etc, the logistics of a move, even a last minute one, would be fairly easy if another venue is available. Really any field would do, even say Currituck High School for example; goal post width and hash mark spacing notwithstanding.
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(08-01-2020 10:47 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  A group of PAC 12 players are organizing to opt out of playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ice-safety

There are at least 3 PAC 12 schools that are online only this fall and others that have hybrid plans. At those same schools the football players will be required to return to campus. I'm sure there are players in other leagues that are individually planning to opt out but this appears to be an organized effort.

This may be just the tip of the iceburg. 04-cheers
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(08-02-2020 01:20 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 10:47 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  A group of PAC 12 players are organizing to opt out of playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ice-safety

There are at least 3 PAC 12 schools that are online only this fall and others that have hybrid plans. At those same schools the football players will be required to return to campus. I'm sure there are players in other leagues that are individually planning to opt out but this appears to be an organized effort.

This may be just the tip of the iceburg. 04-cheers

In the instance of a school being online only, I think the players who are boycotting have a better argument. They are students first. If it’s too dangerous for everyone else, it’s too dangerous for players also.
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(08-02-2020 07:44 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 01:20 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 10:47 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  A group of PAC 12 players are organizing to opt out of playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ice-safety

There are at least 3 PAC 12 schools that are online only this fall and others that have hybrid plans. At those same schools the football players will be required to return to campus. I'm sure there are players in other leagues that are individually planning to opt out but this appears to be an organized effort.

This may be just the tip of the iceburg. 04-cheers

In the instance of a school being online only, I think the players who are boycotting have a better argument. They are students first. If it’s too dangerous for everyone else, it’s too dangerous for players also.

How many are we talking about here? How large is this opt out group? Pretty big factor excluded from the reporting that would be telling of the impact. Are we talking about a few players or half the team? I may be wrong, but I find it hard to believe a significant number of D1 athletes would sacrifice their season over politics. Guessing this is ESPN stirring the pot considering the facts that are being excluded.

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Every time I see the title of this thread, I have an instant reaction. YES!
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(08-02-2020 07:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 07:44 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 01:20 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 10:47 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  A group of PAC 12 players are organizing to opt out of playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ice-safety

There are at least 3 PAC 12 schools that are online only this fall and others that have hybrid plans. At those same schools the football players will be required to return to campus. I'm sure there are players in other leagues that are individually planning to opt out but this appears to be an organized effort.

This may be just the tip of the iceburg. 04-cheers

In the instance of a school being online only, I think the players who are boycotting have a better argument. They are students first. If it’s too dangerous for everyone else, it’s too dangerous for players also.

How many are we talking about here? How large is this opt out group? Pretty big factor excluded from the reporting that would be telling of the impact. Are we talking about a few players or half the team? I may be wrong, but I find it hard to believe a significant number of D1 athletes would sacrifice their season over politics. Guessing this is ESPN stirring the pot considering the facts that are being excluded.

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(08-02-2020 07:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 07:44 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 01:20 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 10:47 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  A group of PAC 12 players are organizing to opt out of playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ice-safety

There are at least 3 PAC 12 schools that are online only this fall and others that have hybrid plans. At those same schools the football players will be required to return to campus. I'm sure there are players in other leagues that are individually planning to opt out but this appears to be an organized effort.

This may be just the tip of the iceburg. 04-cheers

In the instance of a school being online only, I think the players who are boycotting have a better argument. They are students first. If it’s too dangerous for everyone else, it’s too dangerous for players also.

How many are we talking about here? How large is this opt out group? Pretty big factor excluded from the reporting that would be telling of the impact. Are we talking about a few players or half the team? I may be wrong, but I find it hard to believe a significant number of D1 athletes would sacrifice their season over politics. Guessing this is ESPN stirring the pot considering the facts that are being excluded.

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LOL. You think this is about politics.
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To pay for his past sins the governor will only allow HBCUs to play football this year.

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(08-02-2020 01:57 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  To pay for his past sins the governor will only allow HBCUs to play football this year.

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Well, Hampton, the MEAC and the CIAA have already said they're not playing fall sports but I'm sure The Spin Room will LOL and LMAO to their hearts' content on that one.
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(08-02-2020 01:48 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 07:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 07:44 AM)monarx Wrote:  
(08-02-2020 01:20 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(08-01-2020 10:47 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  A group of PAC 12 players are organizing to opt out of playing this season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ice-safety

There are at least 3 PAC 12 schools that are online only this fall and others that have hybrid plans. At those same schools the football players will be required to return to campus. I'm sure there are players in other leagues that are individually planning to opt out but this appears to be an organized effort.

This may be just the tip of the iceburg. 04-cheers

In the instance of a school being online only, I think the players who are boycotting have a better argument. They are students first. If it’s too dangerous for everyone else, it’s too dangerous for players also.

How many are we talking about here? How large is this opt out group? Pretty big factor excluded from the reporting that would be telling of the impact. Are we talking about a few players or half the team? I may be wrong, but I find it hard to believe a significant number of D1 athletes would sacrifice their season over politics. Guessing this is ESPN stirring the pot considering the facts that are being excluded.

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LOL. You think this is about politics.
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Don't see how any of that is political.

Seems more like capitalism and unionization.
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