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(06-29-2021 10:31 AM)eroc Wrote:  Best of luck to him. Hopefully he goes out of conference. That said, i'm shocked he hasn't tried to go pro overseas.

It really puzzles me why a guy like this who is pretty much as good as he'll ever be would give up a year of earning. He's never going to be an NBA prospect so establish yourself overseas. I guess I just see a lot of the guys we've had with longer overseas careers and think those opportunities are readily available. Maybe I overestimate those jobs, maybe it's less available due to COVID.

As far as going out of conference, whatever. He's an average shooter with a weak handle and looses focus on defense. The type of guy who averages upper teens inneficiently playing at ECU or USF. A good coach will scheme against his flaws

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(06-29-2021 09:00 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Poor Keith. He should have bolted before last season rather than deal with that clown for another year.

I hope he kills it wherever he ends up.

Under normal circumstances yes. Probably hard to catch on overseas early into the COVID crises. He surely could have transferred to a lower profile school but the opportunity to be #1 here was not going to replicate itself anywhere. He's a #3 at best on a decent uc team.

(06-29-2021 05:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Poor Keith.

He's going to be slapping his forehead when we're good next year.

If Wes is able to get us competitive in year 1 it's going to be because we have better guards. If we're good and he came back it would have been because his role was reduced.

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(06-30-2021 06:13 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(06-29-2021 10:31 AM)eroc Wrote:  Best of luck to him. Hopefully he goes out of conference. That said, i'm shocked he hasn't tried to go pro overseas.

It really puzzles me why a guy like this who is pretty much as good as he'll ever be would give up a year of earning. He's never going to be an NBA prospect so establish yourself overseas. I guess I just see a lot of the guys we've had with longer overseas careers and think those opportunities are readily available. Maybe I overestimate those jobs, maybe it's less available due to COVID.

As far as going out of conference, whatever. He's an average shooter with a weak handle and looses focus on defense. The type of guy who averages upper teens inneficiently playing at ECU or USF. A good coach will scheme against his flaws

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Taking the money makes sense unless an added year of education is needed for his vocational goals.

(06-30-2021 08:05 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 06:13 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(06-29-2021 10:31 AM)eroc Wrote:  Best of luck to him. Hopefully he goes out of conference. That said, i'm shocked he hasn't tried to go pro overseas.

It really puzzles me why a guy like this who is pretty much as good as he'll ever be would give up a year of earning. He's never going to be an NBA prospect so establish yourself overseas. I guess I just see a lot of the guys we've had with longer overseas careers and think those opportunities are readily available. Maybe I overestimate those jobs, maybe it's less available due to COVID.

As far as going out of conference, whatever. He's an average shooter with a weak handle and looses focus on defense. The type of guy who averages upper teens inneficiently playing at ECU or USF. A good coach will scheme against his flaws

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Taking the money makes sense unless an added year of education is needed for his vocational goals.

He graduated with a Sports Administration degree...so if he doesn't necessarily see professional sports as a personal path after college, getting an MBA or starting on a JD from a highly reputable school would well set him on a good path forward. If that is the end goal for him, then this is a smart choice.

It could also be that the mental basket case in charge sucked the joy out of the game for him and he’d just like one more chance to enjoy being a college athlete again. He’s earned the right despite what some of our interwebz fans have put him through the past year.

Wishing Keith nothing but the best. If he sticks around college basketball I hope he finds a spot where he can be a 3rd or 4th option that can take over when he's hot. He never was a guy who should have had the ball in his hands so much (though his passing improved significantly the second half of the season). His skillset is more meant for picking his spots. He can be a key guy on a really good team in that kind of situation.

(06-30-2021 10:56 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Wishing Keith nothing but the best. If he sticks around college basketball I hope he finds a spot where he can be a 3rd or 4th option that can take over when he's hot. He never was a guy who should have had the ball in his hands so much (though his passing improved significantly the second half of the season). His skillset is more meant for picking his spots. He can be a key guy on a really good team in that kind of situation.

I agree with your sentiments, except that I will be surprised if he gets any interest from a high major program.

And if he does get interest from a high-major program I would be surpsied if it was for a starting role.

I was a big KW fan, and he seems like a great guy and a team player.

Best of luck to him whatever path his future has in store.

Heading into last year he was thought by nearly everyone to be one of the best players in the AAC. If he had a staff with half a brain he would have performed. There will be plenty of interest in him and he will have options. What he wants to do with those options is entirely up to him.

If he was coming from another similarly situated program and we had a spot open you can bet Wes would crawl over glowing coals to get him here for one year.

Sorry to see KW go, but hope he finds a great situation

(06-30-2021 10:51 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  It could also be that the mental basket case in charge sucked the joy out of the game for him and he’d just like one more chance to enjoy being a college athlete again. He’s earned the right despite what some of our interwebz fans have put him through the past year.

Nice try to milk your obsesssion, but KW could have entered the portal anytime he wanted after the season ended like several teammates. So your theory makes no sense. If it's a coaching issue (although I kind of doubt it is), the more logical explanation is he changed his mind about going pro and didn't/hasn't hit it off with the new coach.

I do agree he got a bum rap from several "fans" and I wouldn't be surprised to see him do well wherever he ends up (including UC if that's still a possibility). I plan to keep an eye out for him.

(06-30-2021 12:46 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Heading into last year he was thought by nearly everyone to be one of the best players in the AAC. If he had a staff with half a brain he would have performed. There will be plenty of interest in him and he will have options. What he wants to do with those options is entirely up to him.

If he was coming from another similarly situated program and we had a spot open you can bet Wes would crawl over glowing coals to get him here for one year.

Strike two and this one may make even less sense.

So you are saying after a year under Brannen KW went from a role player to a guy expected to be one of the best players of the AAC heading into last year - and that indicates a staff lacking half a brain?

Moreover, as I understand it, last year was a flat-out eligibility freebie and this season seniors who invoke it don't count towards the scholly limits at their current school. So actually if Wes wants him and Keith wants to return, lack of a scholly isn't an issue. (However, he would need to fit into the scholly limit at another school.) Wanna go for strike 3 with your obsession?

Quit sniffing the old coach’s jock.

He’s a ******* tool . But he’s your ******* tool.

(06-30-2021 12:15 PM)namrag Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 10:56 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Wishing Keith nothing but the best. If he sticks around college basketball I hope he finds a spot where he can be a 3rd or 4th option that can take over when he's hot. He never was a guy who should have had the ball in his hands so much (though his passing improved significantly the second half of the season). His skillset is more meant for picking his spots. He can be a key guy on a really good team in that kind of situation.

I agree with your sentiments, except that I will be surprised if he gets any interest from a high major program.

And if he does get interest from a high-major program I would be surpsied if it was for a starting role.

I was a big KW fan, and he seems like a great guy and a team player.

Best of luck to him whatever path his future has in store.

i felt that KW just was never able to turn the corner to stardom. He would have a really good game and then seem to be standoffish in his next games. He's destined for International bb. Good luck to him.

(06-30-2021 04:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Quit sniffing the old coach’s jock.

He’s a ******* tool . But he’s your ******* tool.

That's your defense of your whack-job theories? I ain't the one here obsessed with trying to point out his smells in post after post. If you don't like the "smell of his jock", why do you keep posting about it?

Get used to being butt hurt if you don’t like people expressing their opinion of Brannen being a recidivist jerk.

You don’t like it, tough.

(07-02-2021 06:08 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 04:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Quit sniffing the old coach’s jock.

He’s a ******* tool . But he’s your ******* tool.

That's your defense of your whack-job theories? I ain't the one here obsessed with trying to point out his smells in post after post. If you don't like the "smell of his jock", why do you keep posting about it?

(06-30-2021 07:25 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 12:15 PM)namrag Wrote:  

(06-30-2021 10:56 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Wishing Keith nothing but the best. If he sticks around college basketball I hope he finds a spot where he can be a 3rd or 4th option that can take over when he's hot. He never was a guy who should have had the ball in his hands so much (though his passing improved significantly the second half of the season). His skillset is more meant for picking his spots. He can be a key guy on a really good team in that kind of situation.

I agree with your sentiments, except that I will be surprised if he gets any interest from a high major program.

And if he does get interest from a high-major program I would be surpsied if it was for a starting role.

I was a big KW fan, and he seems like a great guy and a team player.

Best of luck to him whatever path his future has in store.

i felt that KW just was never able to turn the corner to stardom. He would have a really good game and then seem to be standoffish in his next games. He's destined for International bb. Good luck to him.

Jarrod c, tre scott, gary clark- all pretty consistent

keith w - not so much - doesn't have the makeup to "BE THE MAN" - wish him well, but, he's not going to be a major piece on a major program- i think that the fans who expected him to do so last year were just not realistic

(06-29-2021 01:29 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Might be a hedge if he doesn't land some sort of pro deal overseas? I think you have until 7/1 to enter the portal if I recall. [/b][/i]

Williams got a ton better between his freshman and sophomore years. There was a progression he could have continued to make, but he largely stagnated and actually regressed some his senior year. His ballhandling, defense, and even general feel for the game never improved much. Hard to tell exactly why, but the coaching change during one offseason and COVID during the other are probably big factors.

Although he might be better off making some money overseas ASAP, I hope he lands in a good spot and has a great year; he deserved better than what he ended up getting at UC.

(07-02-2021 10:00 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Get used to being butt hurt if you don’t like people expressing their opinion of Brannen being a recidivist jerk.

You don’t like it, tough.

I think I get it. It's like this right?:

Get used to being butt hurt if you don't like people calling you out on your obsessive, redundant, nonsensical posts.

You don't like it, tough.