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(06-23-2020 07:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 09:42 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 04:11 PM)steves Wrote:  I hadn't been to an Ole Miss game in a while. Does anyone still bring Rebel flags to games.
Nascar will be just like that. Confederate flags use to mean your from the South. Other groups ( Klan, White Supremacist, Bikers, Nazis) just couldn't stop waving it. So now it's a symbol for ... other things. I'm for removing it from ANY government supported property or building. For all the obvious reasons. Same goes for statues, etc. Army posts and forts ... Yada Yada. And State flags should get rid of it as well.

National Battle Fields should be an exception as long as it's smaller and to the side of the American flag.

It's kind of a common sense issue and should really be a no problem deal. As long as the Klan carries it ... It's just a real bad idea.

That said ... This should all be done by the government (Federal,State or Local) not mobs with ropes. Always put it to a vote ... Then publish the names. Somebody just dumped a Statue of Christopher Columbus in a river somewhere ... Give me a break. Common sense people ... Jesus !!

Have you seen a picture of the Klan lately? Their numbers are few. Almost not worth mentioning.

When I was a kid in the 60's they we pretty big and straight Democrat. When did they allegedly change parties?

Antifa on the other hand.....

KKK numbers are probably still strong. Organizations like that you will never see the true numbers. Also FBI have stated that they have infiltrated law enforcement.

Well we know that hate groups like antifa and blm matter are strong as they are in the process of destroying our country.
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(06-25-2020 11:42 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 03:18 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-24-2020 12:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 07:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 09:42 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  Have you seen a picture of the Klan lately? Their numbers are few. Almost not worth mentioning.

When I was a kid in the 60's they we pretty big and straight Democrat. When did they allegedly change parties?

Antifa on the other hand.....

KKK numbers are probably still strong. Organizations like that you will never see the true numbers. Also FBI have stated that they have infiltrated law enforcement.

Estimates are around 3,000 KKK members nationwide, with largest groups around 50-100.

"Nationwide, there are still an estimated 3,000 Klan members and unaffiliated people who "identify with Klan ideology," according to the ADL. Membership, though, remains spread across dozens of groups. The largest Klans reportedly don't have more than 50 to 100 active members, and most have fewer than 25."

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/...us-in-2017

By contrast, Memphis (the city itself) has over 10,000 gang members and gang related murders make up about 1/3rd of all murders in Memphis each year.

“They’re everywhere," said Lt. Andre Pruitt. "Gang members are not just in Memphis or Southaven or Hickory Hill. They’re in Cordova. They’re everywhere.”

"Police said there are currently 12,850 documented gang members in the city of Memphis and 2,750 of those members joined in the past three years. That averages out to more than two new people a day.
"

https://wreg.com/news/gangs-in-memphis-m...g-smaller/

And you get a slow handclap for missing the mark.

Missing the mark how?

Should national and local policy makers be wringing their hands on how to "deal" with a nationwide "group" that has 3,000 members with little to no influence on anything and do discernible connections to ANY deaths over the last 20 years or so or should we focus on breaking down groups that are factually selling drugs, moving weapons, and killing people on a daily basis and who names are know and participants are readily identified?

Makes sense.

I make post about the KKK numbers may be larger because you can't get an accurate number but you bring up something irrelevant to the topic.
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(06-25-2020 04:14 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 07:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 09:42 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 04:11 PM)steves Wrote:  I hadn't been to an Ole Miss game in a while. Does anyone still bring Rebel flags to games.
Nascar will be just like that. Confederate flags use to mean your from the South. Other groups ( Klan, White Supremacist, Bikers, Nazis) just couldn't stop waving it. So now it's a symbol for ... other things. I'm for removing it from ANY government supported property or building. For all the obvious reasons. Same goes for statues, etc. Army posts and forts ... Yada Yada. And State flags should get rid of it as well.

National Battle Fields should be an exception as long as it's smaller and to the side of the American flag.

It's kind of a common sense issue and should really be a no problem deal. As long as the Klan carries it ... It's just a real bad idea.

That said ... This should all be done by the government (Federal,State or Local) not mobs with ropes. Always put it to a vote ... Then publish the names. Somebody just dumped a Statue of Christopher Columbus in a river somewhere ... Give me a break. Common sense people ... Jesus !!

Have you seen a picture of the Klan lately? Their numbers are few. Almost not worth mentioning.

When I was a kid in the 60's they we pretty big and straight Democrat. When did they allegedly change parties?

Antifa on the other hand.....

KKK numbers are probably still strong. Organizations like that you will never see the true numbers. Also FBI have stated that they have infiltrated law enforcement.

Well we know that hate groups like antifa and blm matter are strong as they are in the process of destroying our country.

How can BLM be a hate group when there are black people and white people out their together both bringing awareness to police brutality. I think BLM is stupid and divisive by the way. But keep making excuses for the Klan. I see you. Also there is no evidence that antifa is involved. You guys just saw white people out there rioting and y'all needed to put a deflection up to justify their actions by blaming Antifa. Nope those are American White teens destroying things for fun. Just watch Unicorn Riot on youtube.
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(06-25-2020 08:47 PM)Crazier Wrote:  How can BLM be a hate group when there are black people and white people out their together both bringing awareness to police brutality.

Two things.

1. It's the manner by which they, as you say, bring awareness. They are bringing much more than that and most of it is unnecessary.

2. Many are getting paid to "bring awareness".
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(06-25-2020 08:47 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 04:14 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 07:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 09:42 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 04:11 PM)steves Wrote:  I hadn't been to an Ole Miss game in a while. Does anyone still bring Rebel flags to games.
Nascar will be just like that. Confederate flags use to mean your from the South. Other groups ( Klan, White Supremacist, Bikers, Nazis) just couldn't stop waving it. So now it's a symbol for ... other things. I'm for removing it from ANY government supported property or building. For all the obvious reasons. Same goes for statues, etc. Army posts and forts ... Yada Yada. And State flags should get rid of it as well.

National Battle Fields should be an exception as long as it's smaller and to the side of the American flag.

It's kind of a common sense issue and should really be a no problem deal. As long as the Klan carries it ... It's just a real bad idea.

That said ... This should all be done by the government (Federal,State or Local) not mobs with ropes. Always put it to a vote ... Then publish the names. Somebody just dumped a Statue of Christopher Columbus in a river somewhere ... Give me a break. Common sense people ... Jesus !!

Have you seen a picture of the Klan lately? Their numbers are few. Almost not worth mentioning.

When I was a kid in the 60's they we pretty big and straight Democrat. When did they allegedly change parties?

Antifa on the other hand.....

KKK numbers are probably still strong. Organizations like that you will never see the true numbers. Also FBI have stated that they have infiltrated law enforcement.

Well we know that hate groups like antifa and blm matter are strong as they are in the process of destroying our country.

How can BLM be a hate group when there are black people and white people out their together both bringing awareness to police brutality. I think BLM is stupid and divisive by the way. But keep making excuses for the Klan. I see you. Also there is no evidence that antifa is involved. You guys just saw white people out there rioting and y'all needed to put a deflection up to justify their actions by blaming Antifa. Nope those are American White teens destroying things for fun. Just watch Unicorn Riot on youtube.

BLM has never been about police brutality. It is only the excuse they use to rationalize their action.

The founders are devoted followers of a convicted cop killer who was member of a black terror group and separatist organization.

Patrisse Cullors stated that they are devoted Marxist and their goal is to bring down the US.

Many of the leaders of local groups across eh US have openly stated their goal is to bring down the US government.

That if they do to get what they want they will burn things to the ground and start over.

BLM is actually exploited the deaths of black at the hand of police (although at a much lower rate than the deaths of whites at the hand of police) to push Marxism in the US and help spread the Communist agenda.

AntiFa has always been a terrorist organization since the day it was founded in the Europe during the 1930's by communist international.

Their goal is to push the communist agenda and silence those who oppose the communist agenda.

Both groups are based in communism and their goal is to make Khrushchev's prediction of burying the US, come true.
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(06-25-2020 08:47 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 04:14 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-23-2020 07:53 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 09:42 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 04:11 PM)steves Wrote:  I hadn't been to an Ole Miss game in a while. Does anyone still bring Rebel flags to games.
Nascar will be just like that. Confederate flags use to mean your from the South. Other groups ( Klan, White Supremacist, Bikers, Nazis) just couldn't stop waving it. So now it's a symbol for ... other things. I'm for removing it from ANY government supported property or building. For all the obvious reasons. Same goes for statues, etc. Army posts and forts ... Yada Yada. And State flags should get rid of it as well.

National Battle Fields should be an exception as long as it's smaller and to the side of the American flag.

It's kind of a common sense issue and should really be a no problem deal. As long as the Klan carries it ... It's just a real bad idea.

That said ... This should all be done by the government (Federal,State or Local) not mobs with ropes. Always put it to a vote ... Then publish the names. Somebody just dumped a Statue of Christopher Columbus in a river somewhere ... Give me a break. Common sense people ... Jesus !!

Have you seen a picture of the Klan lately? Their numbers are few. Almost not worth mentioning.

When I was a kid in the 60's they we pretty big and straight Democrat. When did they allegedly change parties?

Antifa on the other hand.....

KKK numbers are probably still strong. Organizations like that you will never see the true numbers. Also FBI have stated that they have infiltrated law enforcement.

Well we know that hate groups like antifa and blm matter are strong as they are in the process of destroying our country.

How can BLM be a hate group when there are black people and white people out their together both bringing awareness to police brutality. I think BLM is stupid and divisive by the way. But keep making excuses for the Klan. I see you. Also there is no evidence that antifa is involved. You guys just saw white people out there rioting and y'all needed to put a deflection up to justify their actions by blaming Antifa. Nope those are American White teens destroying things for fun. Just watch Unicorn Riot on youtube.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rzIEjFMu6bpe/
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(06-25-2020 10:19 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(06-25-2020 08:47 PM)Crazier Wrote:  How can BLM be a hate group when there are black people and white people out their together both bringing awareness to police brutality.

Two things.

1. It's the manner by which they, as you say, bring awareness. They are bringing much more than that and most of it is unnecessary.

2. Many are getting paid to "bring awareness".

You can never win the debate of facts if you just accept the false premise put forward by the other side.

BLM is NOT about raising awareness and has never been about raising awareness.

It is a Marxist organization bent on destabilizing the US.

It's founders have admitted they are devoted Marxist.
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BLM collects donations through the democratic party. Look it up.
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Nah dude, burden of proof is on you.

Show your source.
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Too lazy to look?

Prove me wrong.
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https://www.yonkerstribune.com/2020/06/t...eslie-taha



Who funds Black Lives Matter? It’s funded by billionaires George Soros (Open Society Foundation), Rob McKay (Taco Bell heir), the Ford Foundation, the Borealis Philanthropy, the Democracy Alliance, and many others. Not exactly what I would call a black run grass-roots organization. If these facts alone don’t cause you to rethink the whole Black Lives Matter thing, then you just aren’t paying attention. (Check out the links below)

https://www.influencewatch.org/movement/...es-matter/

http://bmafunders.org/who-is-funding-bla...es-matter/

Black Lives Matter began in 2013 when the media suddenly started focusing a tremendous amount of attention on what they portrayed as the rise of unjustified, racially motivated killings of African American men by white police officers. That’s the way that the media portrayed it, but the facts say otherwise.

Are police shootings of African American men on the rise? No they are not. In fact they are on the decline. According to the Juvenile and Criminal Justice Report, the rate of police killings of African Americans has fallen by 70% over the last 40-50 years. http://www.cjcj.org/news/8113

Are white racist police the biggest murderers of African Americans?
No, far from it. The Black Lives Matter / media cabal is demonizing the police and portraying them as our number one foe, – the enemy, but the facts once again say otherwise.

According to the FBI Uniform Crime Report, 2,925 African Americans were murdered in 2018. 89% of them (2,600) were murdered by other African Americans.


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...ble-6.xls. That same year 209 African Americans (7%) were killed by the police (justified or otherwise).

So let’s do the math here. 2,600 African Americans killed by other African Americans and 209 killed by the police (justified or otherwise). So who is killing African Americans? Other African Americans. But who does the media put all of their focus on? The “white racist” police.

So here is the big question, seeing that these are the clear facts why is the media twisting the truth? Why are they pushing the false narrative that racism is rampant, (didn’t we just have an African American president for eight years)? Why are they spreading this lie that racially motivated police shootings are up. Why are they spreading this lie world-wide causing racial divisions, protest, rioting, looting, burning, destruction and death? This global cabal has a secret agenda and African Americans are just being used as pawns in their world-wide game.

This media produced false narrative reached its pinnacle with the death of George Floyd. The media has practically deified him. He’s in nationwide TV commercials, online ads, public service announcements, he’s on billboards (we are talking millions of dollars in advertising. Who’s paying for this?). His image is graffitied on buildings, businesses and walls from coast to coast, he’s on national magazine covers, and this list goes on and on. Hundreds attended his memorial service and funeral which included Al Sharpton (surprise!), The Governor of Minnesota, the mayor of Minneapolis, and many big name celebrities.

So who is this George Floyd?
Is he some great civil rights leader like Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandela? No, – he was a violent career criminal with a long criminal record.

George Floyd was released from prison in Houston Texas in 2014 following an arrest for aggravated robbery. He had been in jail at least five other times. His arrest record included theft, drug possession, and criminal trespass. He was also the leader of a home invasion ring. They entered a woman’s home and Floyd threatened to kill her by pointing a gun at her stomach while they ransacked the place looking for drugs and money. (Check out the link to his criminal record)

https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/

Nice guy huh. And this is the one that the Black Lives Matter / media cabal is using as their international poster boy. A violent career criminal. Well at least you can’t say that they don’t have a sense of humor.

On May 20th 2020 Floyd was arrested again for trying to pass a counterfeit $20 bill at a Minneapolis grocery store. This was the event that supposedly set off this insane world-wide media storm. As we know, Floyd died while in police custody and the four officers involved were all immediately fired and charged with murder and aiding and abetting murder. This was done before any investigation has been done, and before the cause of death was even established.

The main officer involved, Derrick Chauvin was immediately tried, convicted, and hung. Not by a jury, but by the media. The media has so thoroughly convicted him that it is considered blasphemy of the highest order to even hint that he should be considered, “innocent until proven guilty”. The media has proclaimed it murder. Case closed!

Well once again I hate to spoil the show by introducing more facts into this media circus of lies, but here it goes.

According to the official Hennepin County Medical Examiner (not the private “examiner” paid for by the Floyd family legal team), George Floyd did not die from traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. The report stated that he died from a heart attack and the heart attack was a result of several factors. He had the narcotic Fentanyl in his system (which is 50 times more potent than heroin and the same drug that killed Prince), and he also had methamphetamines in his system. He also suffered from severe arteriosclerotic heart disease, and hypertension. All of that combined with his struggle with the police as they tried to subdue him is what caused him to go into cardiopulmonary arrest. Not just the fact that officer Chauvin had his knee on his neck. George Floyd received emergency medical care in the field, but he could not be resuscitated. Does that sound like murder to you? Read the report for yourself.

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepin..._Floyd.pdf

Also the knee on the neck (neck restraint) maneuver was not something that the Minneapolis police reserved for use only on black people. They have used it over 200 times since 2015 on anyone they needed to subdue of all colors, white, black, brown, or whatever, and no one has ever died from it. So why are the Black Lives Matter Network / media cabal screaming at the top of their lungs that this was racism? A racially motivated murder!

The Black Lives Matter Network / media cabal is not what it makes itself out to be. It is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They pretend to be the liberal friends of African Americans, but in reality they are their mortal enemies. The policies that they so aggressively push cause nothing but more damage to the African American community.

Under the guise of eliminating racism they push a policy to “Defund the Police”. This is right on the front of the Black Lives Matter website.

Under the guise of eliminating racism they push a policy that they call, “Stop The Mass Incarcerations”. This is a policy that promotes the release of prison inmates before their time is up and putting them back on the street.

Under the guise of eliminating racism they push for the decriminalization of drugs offenses, and the immediate pardon of all drug offenses with reparations paid to those convicted of drug offenses.

So sum this up. In the African American community where there is the highest crime rate and the biggest problems with drug abuse, they push to release the inmates from prison and put them back on the streets, let drug use and drug dealing run wild, and then take away the police. What do you think the outcome of these policies will produce? More crime and drug abuse in the African American community. High crime and drug areas minus police equals hell, – easy math. Policies that promote more crime and drug abuse in the black community are what I call anti-black policies. These guys make the KKK (Ku Klux Klan) look like angels by comparison.

The “liberal” media cabal (news, TV, movies, music, publications) who now are pretending to care so much about racism and black people have for decades pushed ideas that are very damaging to the African American community. They have promoted criminal sensibilities, thug life, promiscuity, and immorality to the African American community by way of their promotion of the worst aspects of rap / hip-hop culture. They’ve been actively promoting the very things that feed our problems. Like feeding poison to a sick man.

Here is a very timely quote from Malcolm X: “The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems.”



What we are seeing happening in the world right now under the guise of “eliminating racism”, – the destabilization of society, the protest, rioting, looting, burning, and killing are not spontaneous, grass-roots events. It’s all thoroughly coordinated by those at the top of the Black Lives Matter / medial cabal. They are indeed the enemy of African Americans, but they are actually the enemy of us all. African Americans are just being used as cannon fodder in their game of global domination.
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I was under the impression that this was a sports forum
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Me too


But any forum is ripe for fake ass news.
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The weekend that Indy Car fans have dreamed about for over a decade has just blown up in their face. A NASCAR/Indy Car double header. Then NASCAR goes out and alienate the largest part of their core. No extra eyes on the Indy road course race at Indy this weekend.
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What ... We can't take our Rebel flags and wave them like a bunch of fools ??? Well I'm not going anymore !!! NOT !!! Ole Miss Football didn't loose any good fans ... NASCAR won't either !! 07-coffee3
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(06-30-2020 08:05 AM)steves Wrote:  What ... We can't take our Rebel flags and wave them like a bunch of fools ??? Well I'm not going anymore !!! NOT !!! Ole Miss Football didn't loose any good fans ... NASCAR won't either !! 07-coffee3

They have been losing fans hands over fist in recent years due to the many changes they have put in place. If you have a sinking ship you do not put another hole in the bottom to let the water drain out. Before any of this happened the second Charlotte race did not even draw a whole number for their rating. 0.91 TV rating
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(06-29-2020 11:42 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The weekend that Indy Car fans have dreamed about for over a decade has just blown up in their face. A NASCAR/Indy Car double header. Then NASCAR goes out and alienate the largest part of their core. No extra eyes on the Indy road course race at Indy this weekend.

Dude.

The 4% of NASCAR fans left that were NASCAR fans in 1995-2000 aren't going to leave over a racist-ass flag. Get over it.
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(06-30-2020 07:02 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(06-29-2020 11:42 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The weekend that Indy Car fans have dreamed about for over a decade has just blown up in their face. A NASCAR/Indy Car double header. Then NASCAR goes out and alienate the largest part of their core. No extra eyes on the Indy road course race at Indy this weekend.

Dude.

The 4% of NASCAR fans left that were NASCAR fans in 1995-2000 aren't going to leave over a racist-ass flag. Get over it.

Speaking of fake news. From the horses mouth.
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Not really.

NASCAR went from being the second most popular sport in America to an afterthought.
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(06-30-2020 07:19 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Not really.

NASCAR went from being the second most popular sport in America to an afterthought.

Show your source.

Remember When you said that to me the otter day and then you had to STFU when I did? Good times
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