(06-19-2020 01:18 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  BTW, any proposed realignment is a non starter for the old BE teams if we can't play a Florida conference team every year.

Going division-less allows that. Otherwise, the zipper is fine.

As far as Miami-Syracuse every year. That would work fine. The way I see it, BC, SU, and Pitt all want Miami every season. Miami wants FSU every season and possibly Georgia Tech (not sure). This is where it comes down to each school ranking their top five and seeing who wants Miami most. It wouldn’t surprise me if Miami ended up being Pitt’s number one choice. Which alumni base will help fill up Miami’s stadium?

Some rotation of Miami-BC-SU-Pitt would work very well for Rivalry Week. I believe the Big Ten does this with Maryland-Rutgers-Penn St.-MSU.

In a realignment that puts the old Big East teams in the same division, you could have an annually rotating set of rivalry week matchups between BC, Miami, Pitt, and Syracuse.

Year 1: BC/Miami + Pitt/Syracuse
Year 2: BC/Pitt + Miami/Syracuse
Year 3: BC/Syracuse + Miami/Pitt

My math error it is 124 for UVa and UNC

Esayem, no, I am talking Auburn, GT, Georgia, and Tennessee.

By the time GT, FSU, Miami, Louisville and other joined, we had airplanes for team travel.

Up until the 1960's trains were used for football team travel if it were longer than a bus ride and the current interstate system does not necessarily match the old rail routes.

This map explains the Southern Conference as it was conceived in 1921 - and this is just the Southern Railroad - Chattanooga had another terminal.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_R...ay_map.jpg

(06-19-2020 03:35 PM)Statefan Wrote:  My math error it is 124 for UVa and UNC

Esayem, no, I am talking Auburn, GT, Georgia, and Tennessee.

By the time GT, FSU, Miami, Louisville and other joined, we had airplanes for team travel.

Up until the 1960's trains were used for football team travel if it were longer than a bus ride and the current interstate system does not necessarily match the old rail routes.

This map explains the Southern Conference as it was conceived in 1921 - and this is just the Southern Railroad - Chattanooga had another terminal.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_R...ay_map.jpg

Interestingly the "Southern Crescent" still stops in Clemson, SC before pulling into Atlanta.

(06-19-2020 05:11 PM)XLance Wrote:  Interestingly the "Southern Crescent" still stops in Clemson, SC before pulling into Atlanta.

Yes, so long as that's still the rail corridor being used, college town stations tend to hold onto their Amtrak stops better than many.

Never mind Clemson, SC, the other Northeast Ohio stop for the DC to Chicago service through Pittsburgh and Cleveland is in Alliance, pop. 22,000, home of tiny Mount Union, home to 2,100ish undergrads and about 200 graduate students.

(06-21-2020 10:32 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 05:11 PM)XLance Wrote:  Interestingly the "Southern Crescent" still stops in Clemson, SC before pulling into Atlanta.

Yes, so long as that's still the rail corridor being used, college town stations tend to hold onto their Amtrak stops better than many.

Never mind Clemson, SC, the other Northeast Ohio stop for the DC to Chicago service through Pittsburgh and Cleveland is in Alliance, pop. 22,000, home of tiny Mount Union, home to 2,100ish undergrads and about 200 graduate students.

The Northeast Regional line always stops dead-ass in the middle of sleepy little Ashland, Va., home to Division 3 Randolph-Macon, but it was a railroad town anyway so even if R-MC closed it would probably still be a frequent stop.

(06-21-2020 10:32 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 05:11 PM)XLance Wrote:  Interestingly the "Southern Crescent" still stops in Clemson, SC before pulling into Atlanta.

Yes, so long as that's still the rail corridor being used, college town stations tend to hold onto their Amtrak stops better than many.

Never mind Clemson, SC, the other Northeast Ohio stop for the DC to Chicago service through Pittsburgh and Cleveland is in Alliance, pop. 22,000, home of tiny Mount Union, home to 2,100ish undergrads and about 200 graduate students.

Here are ACC schools superimposed over AmTrak lines - from "ACC Factoid - Trains (AmTrak)" (2012, so it still shows Maryland):



see also "ACC FB by Train" which shows where train stations sit in relation to campuses.

(06-21-2020 10:48 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 10:32 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-19-2020 05:11 PM)XLance Wrote:  Interestingly the "Southern Crescent" still stops in Clemson, SC before pulling into Atlanta.

Yes, so long as that's still the rail corridor being used, college town stations tend to hold onto their Amtrak stops better than many.

Never mind Clemson, SC, the other Northeast Ohio stop for the DC to Chicago service through Pittsburgh and Cleveland is in Alliance, pop. 22,000, home of tiny Mount Union, home to 2,100ish undergrads and about 200 graduate students.

Here are ACC schools superimposed over AmTrak lines - from "ACC Factoid - Trains (AmTrak)" (2012, so it still shows Maryland):



see also "ACC FB by Train" which shows where train stations sit in relation to campuses.

I have taken the Southern Crecent to several Georgia Tech games.
Leaves Greensboro at midnight and arrives in Atlanta at 8 AM. before traveling on to New Orleans.
The on the return trip back to New York the Crescent pulls into Atlanta at about 8 for the return trip.
A long day........works best for noon games.

http://cwrr.com/Amtrak/e_cres.html


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19 Train Number 20
Daily Days of Operation Daily
Mile .
2:15p 0 Dp New York (ET) Ar 2:02p
P 2:37p 10 Newark, NJ D 1:43p
P 3:15p 58 Trenton, NJ D 1:03p
P 3:55p 91 Philadelphia, PA D12:25p
P 4:19p 116 Wilmington, DE D12:01p
P 5:17p 185 Baltimore, MD D11:12a
P 6:30p 225 Dp Ar D10:10a
6:49p 233 Alexandria, VA D 9:43a
7:22p 258 Manassas, VA 8:46a
F 7:55p 293 Culpeper, VA F 8:12a
8:52p 337 Charlottesville, VA 7:20a
10:06p 398 Lynchburg, VA 6:07a
11:14p 461 Danville, VA 4:57a
12:15a 512 Ar Greensboro, NC Dp 3:58a
12:22a Dp (Winston-Salem, NC) Ar 3:51a
12:39a 524 High Point, NC 3:30a
1:17a 559 Salisbury, NC 2:49a
2:20a 601 Ar Charlotte, NC Dp 2:03a
2:45a Dp Ar 1:38a
F 3:12a 623 Gastonia, NC F12:56a
4:14a 678 Spartanburg, SC 11:56p
4:54a 709 Ar Greenville, SC Dp 11:15p
5:01a Dp Ar 11:10p
5:39a 739 Clemson, SC 10:33p
F 6:15a 773 Toccoa, GA F 9:57p
6:58a 810 Gainesville, GA 9:16p
T 8:13a 859 Ar Atlanta, GA (ET) Dp T 8:21p
8:38a Dp Ar 7:53p
10:00a 959 Anniston, AL (CT) 4:17p
11:44a 1023 Ar Birmingham, AL Dp 2:44p
12:02p Dp Ar 2:36p
1:11p 1078 Tuscaloosa, AL 1:01p
2:50p 1175 Meridian, MS 11:24a
F 3:47p 1231 Laurel, MS F10:22a
4:19p 1260 Hattiesburg, MS 9:47a
F 5:21p 1324 Picayune, MS F 8:40a
F 5:44p 1342 Slidell, LA F 8:17a
7:23p 1377 Ar New Orleans, LA Dp 7:20a
D -- Stops to discharge passengers only.
F -- Stops only on signal or advance notice to conductor.
P -- Stops to receive passengers only.
T -- Direct transfer between train and motorcoach at Amtrak station
for connecting passengers only.